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Uncommon Valor: Campaign for the South Pacific covers the campaigns for New Guinea, New Britain, New Ireland and the Solomon chain.

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Good site related to IJN.

http://www.combinedfleet.com/kaigun.htm

Good Carrier site.

http://www.hazegray.org/navhist/carriers/

Good general naval site, lots of ships.

http://www.warships1.com

Another good site is indepth info mainly on Crusiers and BB.

http://www.world-war.co.uk/

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I think the thing that is most unhappy about UV is that it is NOT a forgiving system. Sunk ships tend to remind one of mistakes.

You can easily screw yourself w/o even trying.

That makes the game have a hard edge.
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Chiteng wrote:I think the thing that is most unhappy about UV is that it is NOT a forgiving system. Sunk ships tend to remind one of mistakes.

You can easily screw yourself w/o even trying.

That makes the game have a hard edge.
Unless i am missing the point, thats the whole point of the game, your in charge you mess it up you pays the price.

Although it is rather unlikely that a cv tf commander would not launch cap if he detected a raid coming his way regardless of the fact the "command in cheif" has put all his fighters on a rest day....
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@ Bobthehatchit

Thx for the links. Verry informativ!

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Rolfor wrote:@ Bobthehatchit

Thx for the links. Verry informativ!

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Greetings and salutations.

No problem.

Enjoy, these are great sites.

A copy of Janes fighting ships of WWII is also a good investment.
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Bobthehatchit wrote:Greetings and salutations.

No problem.

Enjoy, these are great sites.

A copy of Janes fighting ships of WWII is also a good investment.
Jane's is hopeless. Much better is Conway's.
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Tristanjohn wrote:Jane's is hopeless. Much better is Conway's.
Have to check that out, Janes is a little inaccurate but its cheap and a useful resources if you don't know a lot about WWII naval units.
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Bobthehatchit wrote:Have to check that out, Janes is a little inaccurate but its cheap and a useful resources if you don't know a lot about WWII naval units.
Please tell me what good an inaccurate resource could be? :)
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If you want to, e-mail me directly with specific questions and I will do my best to answer them. I have an art program so I can provide graphics when needed.

sirkid@cfl.rr.com

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Tristanjohn wrote:Please tell me what good an inaccurate resource could be? :)
Yeah yeah.....

Still better than nothing though.
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Post by Rolfor »

Hi Kid,

thx for your great offer :)
I will send you a mail in a few days.

This time I collect my questions and how far I can
understand the game by my self, if I give orders
and look what I am get on return, read the manual
the FAQ and the strategie-guide.

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Bobthehatchit wrote:Yeah yeah.....

Still better than nothing though.
As an addition to your library I guess it has merit. I own it and I occasionally take it down. As a resource to rely on it is hopeless. Not just inaccurate but by comparison with Conway's incomplete to the point of laugability.

You can buy and own and use anything you want. So can anyone else. But as you mentioned it I thought I'd throw in my $.02.

That's all. :)
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Tristanjohn wrote:As an addition to your library I guess it has merit. I own it and I occasionally take it down. As a resource to rely on it is hopeless. Not just inaccurate but by comparison with Conway's incomplete to the point of laugability.

You can buy and own and use anything you want. So can anyone else. But as you mentioned it I thought I'd throw in my $.02.

That's all. :)
Dually noted.

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Conway's is excellent, though it was pretty pricey years ago when I picked up a copy. The Morison series is good background material but cannot be relied on for detail. In the earlier discussion about how many Bettys attacked the ships off Lunga Morison does not provide the level of detail that Frank & Lundstrom provide. Lundstrom in particular goes down to group/squadron/shotai/chutai/pilot details. On Aug 7 there were 32 Bettys of the 4th air group at Rabaul, along with 16 Vals of the 2nd air group, 15 type 32 zeros of the 2nd air group, and 24 type 21 zeros of the Tainan Air group. There were also a few recon plans and 4 flying boats (2 Mavis/2 Emily). 27 Bettys (loaded with bombs, not torps - they had planned to hit Milne Bay) were to be escorted by 18 of the long range (type 21) zeros to hit the ships at Lunga. One of the zeros aborted so only 17 made the trip. 9 of the Vals were also sent out on a one way mission - armed only with 2 60 kg bombs each.

On Aug 8 Yamada sent out 3 Bettys and two flying boats to search for the US CVs. He also sent 26 torp armed Bettys and 15 zeros to go after the CVs, with the invasion force the secondary target. The Bettys were made up of the 4th Air group and the Misawa air group. 3 Bettys aborted (all 4th Air group) leaving 23 to go after the Allies. So, on neither day did the number of Bettys exceed 27 attackers.

I consider Frank and Lundstrom to be excellent sources for detailed coverage of the struggle for Guadalcanal. I would throw in Bergerud for a good discussion of the dynamics of air combat in the South Pacific. Morison does an excellent job of looking at the overall naval war but because of this broad scope cannot be relied on for details of particular actions.

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Post by Rolfor »

@Francis Drake

Hi Francis,
thx for your tips on www.luftschlacht.de :)
But there must be a technical error with Boardy-Forum.

First time I could read your postig. But after this first one
I become the message:

"die Verbindung zum Server konnte nicht hergestellt werden"

But your answers was verry helpfull.
I will try again.

Greetings
Rolfor
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