Port Attack 800kg Bomb

[BBfanboy]

The Judy could carry a heavier load than the Val, so a 500KG bomb was standard and they may have designed the 800KG one for short-range attacks on tough targets like the fast BBs. Of course first they had to get through massive CAP and horrendous flak .... [X(]

[Pentakomo]

How 41 cm AP shell Type 3 or 5 converted into 800 kg AP Type 99 bomb.

[Edward75]

Just Last Turn: Another Aig group! Pilots have Exp: from 65 to 72 (Average Exp - 69) Very Strаnge!!!

Night Air attack on Manila , at 79,77

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 35 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G3M2 Nell x 6

No Japanese losses

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x G3M2 Nell bombing from 10000 feet
Port Attack: 1 x 800 kg AP Bomb

[Yaab]

What about AIR skill of the groups' leaders? What is the Detection Level on the ports? Do you have any recon aircraft over Singapore? Maybe the DL there is so low that it reports no ships in the port?

[BBfanboy]

ORIGINAL: Yaab

What about AIR skill of the groups' leaders? What is the Detection Level on the ports? Do you have any recon aircraft over Singapore? Maybe the DL there is so low that it reports no ships in the port?

The severe storms are probably part of the reason for no results, not even port hits.

[Yaab]

Thread resurrection.

I was suprised to see that 70 exp air groups flying from Jap CVLs will also use the 800kg bomb. Also, some aircraft bombed Repair Shipyard with 800kg bombs!

Here is a combat report from RHS mod, scen 122, Allies, first turn. In stock scenario 001, the same attack is directed against ships in Davao.


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Afternoon Air attack on Tacloban [Leyte] , at 81,85

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 14 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A5M4 Claude x 5
A6M2m21 Zero x 4
B5N2 Kate TB x 18
D3A1 Val DB x 17

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
xAKL Luzon USAT, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
xAKL Gov Stimson USAT, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
xAKL Elena USAT, Bomb hits 2, and is sunk
xAKL PC Latouche, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAKL Panay USAT, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAKL Elisabeth USAT, Bomb hits 2, and is sunk
xAKL PC Kanlaon II, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage

Repair Shipyard hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x D3A1 Val DB releasing from 2000' *
Port Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
9 x B5N2 Kate TB bombing from 5000 feet
City Attack: 1 x 800 kg GP Bomb
9 x B5N2 Kate TB bombing from 5000 feet
Port Attack: 1 x 800 kg GP Bomb
1 x D3A1 Val DB releasing from 3000' *
Port Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
4 x D3A1 Val DB releasing from 1000' *
Port Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb

[inqistor]

ORIGINAL: pontiouspilot

Interesting....my belief was that the 800lber was the converted BB shell. Someone will set it straight.

There were at least 3 800kg bomb models.
Most common was used by BETTYs, but it had poor penetration. Worse than 500kg. Then there was one for ground attack, and converted shell, used during PH raid, which tended to not explode at all. That last had at least two more versions.

[spence]

and converted shell, used during PH raid

The shaving of the shell weakened the shell such that it would break "in half" often when striking the deck armor of a battleship. Thus more often than not the shell's fuze separated from the bursting charge so that the shell had a low order detonation. Of the 10 shell-bombs that hit (exactly matching the pre-attack predictions of Lcdr Fuchida) only the one striking the USS Arizona functioned "as advertised".