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RE: Soviet Leaders/OOB Issues

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source of 1974(it's a book with statistical spreadsheets or something)
This book or better to say spreadsheets from this book - "Artillery supply in the Great Patriotic War of 1941-45.", Moscow-Tula, GAU publishing house, 1977. / "Артиллерийское снабжение в Великой Отечественной войне 1941-45 гг.", Москва-Тула, издательство ГАУ, 1977 г. - http://www.soldat.ru/doc/mobilization/mob/
Not sure how actually good it is at this moment because it'a 1974 year...

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RE: Soviet Leaders/OOB Issues

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I have currently reduced the 37mm Flak in rifle divs so overall we now have 2400. 12.7mm AAMGs have been replaced by 7.62mm quads in rifle divs/Bdes (+ quantity reduced) for an overall of 2300.
Rifle div OBs have also been reduced in AA so just 6x quad AAMG and 4x 37mm, changing to 9x 12.7mm AAMG and 6x 37mm Flak in 1/42
further reductions may follow if I change airbases to just 12x quad and 4x 76mm with an upgrade to current level in 1/42. airbases vurrent hold ~500x 12.7mm AAMG and ~700x 37mm Flak
production may be another issue, all the reductions do not help if these elements get immediate massive production once back in the OBs.
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RE: Soviet Leaders/OOB Issues

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ORIGINAL: Denniss
production may be another issue, all the reductions do not help if these elements get immediate massive production once back in the OBs.
That's why and not only would be nice to create factories for elements like artillery and some others. We can get an adequate production rates, more correct factory placement etc.
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RE: Soviet Leaders/OOB Issues

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An “army” AA guns of RKKA and VMF on start of the war.

Based on that “The statistical compilation #1".
Notes about spreadsheet – (VMF – Fleet; M.D.'s : L – Leningrad, B – Baltic, W- Western, K – Kiev, Od – Odessa, TC – Trans-Caucasus, MA – Mid.-Asian, TB – Trans-Baikal, FE – Far East Front, A – Arkhangelsk, M – Moscow, V – Volga, Or – Orel, Kh – Kharkov, NC – North-Caucasus, U – Ural, S – Siberian)
Also need keep in mind that some formations during June 1941 was on the move to west from their “normal” locations. In the game it's most of “white”-formations like 22nd Army (from Ural M.D.). But in this spreadsheet they still counts as part of “ex”-M.D.'s.

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Separately about an “army” AA guns of VMF (it's data on 1 July 1941):
Northern Fleet – 72x 76mm, 4x 85mm
Baltic Fleet – 18x 37mm, 324x 76mm, 25x 85mm
Black Sea Fleet – 16x 37mm, 160x 76mm, 20x 85mm
Pinsk Military Flotilla – 10x 37mm
Pacific Fleet – 278x 76mm, 17x 85mm
Amur Military Flotilla – 28x 76mm

85mm AA gun in the game named “KS-12”. Perhaps more correct would be “52-K”.
The gun was developed by design department of the Kalinin's Factory #8 (Kaliningrad, Moscow region).
The factory index “KS-12” got impoved version of this gun that was developed in Sverdlovsk where was evacuated the Kalinin's Factory #8. “KS” = Kalinin's Sverdlovsk. Production of KS-12 started in February 1944.

I'm also surprised why is some AA battalions now has 15 medium guns instead of 12.
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RE: Soviet Leaders/OOB Issues

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changed the 85mm to 52-K, also renamed several other guns.
Later (1943) AA units got 16 instead of 12 heavy guns.
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RE: Soviet Leaders/OOB Issues

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ORIGINAL: Denniss
Later (1943) AA units got 16 instead of 12 heavy guns.
Yes, perhaps later it was changed. But in the game at start some AA battalions has 15 medium guns while their TOE has only 12.
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RE: Soviet Leaders/OOB Issues

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may need to rebuild them too if there are too many of them in oversized state.
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