Recent battles have sent one of my NF pilots over 20 kills! Hirusawa, E.
What's the experience profile like on your NF pilots? I always have a dilemma putting high EXP pilots in NF squadrons given their tendency to die to defensive 4E fire.
The Elephant Vanishes : obvert (J) vs Historiker_SqzMyLemon_Canoerebel (A)
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RE: The Elephant Vanishes : obvert (J) vs Historiker_SqzMyLemon_Canoerebel (A)
What's the experience profile like on your NF pilots? I always have a dilemma putting high EXP pilots in NF squadrons given their tendency to die to defensive 4E fire.
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RE: The Elephant Vanishes : obvert (J) vs Historiker_SqzMyLemon_Canoerebel (A)
ORIGINAL: obvert
This is China.
Man, that's going to be a ***** for the Allies to untangle LOC during 'peacetime' in 1947. Brits, Sovs, Americans and (of course) Chinese ally vying for overlapping city control in China PLUS a looming cold war? Looks ugly. [:D]
RE: The Elephant Vanishes : obvert (J) vs Historiker_SqzMyLemon_Canoerebel (A)
wow, '46. Congrats!
Pax
RE: The Elephant Vanishes : obvert (J) vs Historiker_SqzMyLemon_Canoerebel (A)
ORIGINAL: mind_messing
Recent battles have sent one of my NF pilots over 20 kills! Hirusawa, E.
What's the experience profile like on your NF pilots? I always have a dilemma putting high EXP pilots in NF squadrons given their tendency to die to defensive 4E fire.
The groups all were originally filled with 70-80exp pilots. I now have some 60exp in there as I'm prioritising the day fighters for the top dogs.
They don't lose a lot though since it's all over my bases. I'l post a shot of a typical group when I can.
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RE: The Elephant Vanishes : obvert (J) vs Historiker_SqzMyLemon_Canoerebel (A)
ORIGINAL: Chickenboy
ORIGINAL: obvert
This is China.
Man, that's going to be a ***** for the Allies to untangle LOC during 'peacetime' in 1947. Brits, Sovs, Americans and (of course) Chinese ally vying for overlapping city control in China PLUS a looming cold war? Looks ugly. [:D]
Yeah, I don't think the cultural revolution is going to be quite the same in this universe. [;)]
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RE: The Elephant Vanishes : obvert (J) vs Historiker_SqzMyLemon_Canoerebel (A)
Have you seen the P-80? If memory serves, those start rolling off the line in November 1945. That sucker sweeps better than Alice on "Brady Bunch."
Cheers,
CB
Cheers,
CB
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RE: The Elephant Vanishes : obvert (J) vs Historiker_SqzMyLemon_Canoerebel (A)
ORIGINAL: CaptBeefheart
Have you seen the P-80? If memory serves, those start rolling off the line in November 1945. That sucker sweeps better than Alice on "Brady Bunch."
Cheers,
CB
I was looking forward to seeing some jets in this one but so far, nothing. I thought the P-80 would be roaring over Tokyo by now for sure.
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RE: The Elephant Vanishes : obvert (J) vs Historiker_SqzMyLemon_Canoerebel (A)
ORIGINAL: obvert
ORIGINAL: CaptBeefheart
Have you seen the P-80? If memory serves, those start rolling off the line in November 1945. That sucker sweeps better than Alice on "Brady Bunch."
Cheers,
CB
I was looking forward to seeing some jets in this one but so far, nothing. I thought the P-80 would be roaring over Tokyo by now for sure.
Well, would you settle for a jet-piston hybrid? Canoerebel has the FR-1 Fireball in action, and it seems to be one of the few fighters that can hold its own with the Ki-83.
Civil war? What does that mean? Is there any foreign war? Isn't every war fought between men, between brothers?
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RE: The Elephant Vanishes : obvert (J) vs Historiker_SqzMyLemon_Canoerebel (A)
I found the KI-95 to be the only thing that could give the P80 a relatively hard time.
The FR-1 has the highest maneuverability ratings of any Allied fighter at low levels, but still falls short of the maneuverability of many Japanese planes.
I haven't used it for sweeping near as much as the P80 simply because I don't have as many of them.
The KI-95 is by far the toughest opponent I have faced in the air.
btw: I have no idea if KI-95s even appear in stock scenarios or only in Ironman scenarios.
The FR-1 has the highest maneuverability ratings of any Allied fighter at low levels, but still falls short of the maneuverability of many Japanese planes.
I haven't used it for sweeping near as much as the P80 simply because I don't have as many of them.
The KI-95 is by far the toughest opponent I have faced in the air.
btw: I have no idea if KI-95s even appear in stock scenarios or only in Ironman scenarios.
Hans
RE: The Elephant Vanishes : obvert (J) vs Historiker_SqzMyLemon_Canoerebel (A)
ORIGINAL: HansBolter
I found the KI-95 to be the only thing that could give the P80 a relatively hard time.
The FR-1 has the highest maneuverability ratings of any Allied fighter at low levels, but still falls short of the maneuverability of many Japanese planes.
I haven't used it for sweeping near as much as the P80 simply because I don't have as many of them.
The KI-95 is by far the toughest opponent I have faced in the air.
btw: I have no idea if KI-95s even appear in stock scenarios or only in Ironman scenarios.
In stock the Ki-95 is a recon version of the Ki-83 with only 2 20-mm cannons, it however does carry a camera.
I do not know what kind of Iron an you are using, but the Ki-95 of Scen 10 has exactly the same specs
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RE: The Elephant Vanishes : obvert (J) vs Historiker_SqzMyLemon_Canoerebel (A)
[font="Times New Roman"]December 24-25, 1945[/font]
The Allies hit Kobe hard on the 24th. They continue to hit troops by day in China, and our rag-tag group of units is pushing hard to get to Chungking without further losses. Not sure they'll make it. I think I'll get about 3,500AV into Chungking by the time the Allies can get there, but not much supply left.
The Allies attack at Hankow and lower forts but take decent losses for this late in game.
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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Dec 24, 1945
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Night Air attack on Kobe , at 108,59
Weather in hex: Moderate rain
Raid detected at 79 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 27 minutes
Japanese aircraft
F1M2 Pete x 9
J1N1-Sa Irving x 23
P1Y2-S Frances x 4
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 18
Ki-45 KAId Nick x 27
Ki-102b Randy x 29
Ki-102c Randy x 8
Allied aircraft
Liberator B.VI x 6
B-29-25 Superfort x 14
B-29B Superfort x 4
Japanese aircraft losses
J1N1-Sa Irving: 1 destroyed
Ki-45 KAIa Nick: 1 destroyed
Ki-102b Randy: 1 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
Liberator B.VI: 2 damaged
B-29-25 Superfort: 6 damaged
B-29B Superfort: 1 damaged
Aircraft Attacking:
6 x Liberator B.VI bombing from 10000 feet
City Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
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Night Air attack on Kobe , at 108,59
Weather in hex: Moderate rain
Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 24 minutes
Japanese aircraft
F1M2 Pete x 9
J1N1-Sa Irving x 19
P1Y2-S Frances x 3
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 13
Ki-45 KAId Nick x 29
Ki-102b Randy x 21
Ki-102c Randy x 8
Allied aircraft
B-29-25 Superfort x 31
B-29B Superfort x 8
Japanese aircraft losses
F1M2 Pete: 1 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
B-29-25 Superfort: 23 damaged
B-29B Superfort: 6 damaged
Manpower hits 182
Fires 118034
Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B-29-25 Superfort bombing from 8000 feet
City Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb
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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Dec 25, 1945
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Morning Air attack on 12th Tank Regiment, at 75,43 , near Neikiang
Weather in hex: Overcast
Raid spotted at 34 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes
Allied aircraft
B-29-25 Superfort x 35
No Allied losses
Japanese ground losses:
Guns lost 10 (5 destroyed, 5 disabled)
Vehicles lost 138 (10 destroyed, 128 disabled)
Aircraft Attacking:
6 x B-29-25 Superfort bombing from 8000 feet
Ground Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb
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Ground combat at Hankow (85,50)
Allied Deliberate attack
Attacking force 109114 troops, 1622 guns, 914 vehicles, Assault Value = 3569
Defending force 78400 troops, 681 guns, 437 vehicles, Assault Value = 2033
Allied engineers reduce fortifications to 5
Allied adjusted assault: 2319
Japanese adjusted defense: 6433
Allied assault odds: 1 to 2 (fort level 5)
Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), supply(-)
Attacker:
Japanese ground losses:
610 casualties reported
Squads: 14 destroyed, 85 disabled
Non Combat: 4 destroyed, 47 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 8 disabled
Guns lost 36 (6 destroyed, 30 disabled)
Vehicles lost 43 (9 destroyed, 34 disabled)
Allied ground losses:
2430 casualties reported
Squads: 18 destroyed, 444 disabled
Non Combat: 5 destroyed, 97 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 60 disabled
Guns lost 85 (12 destroyed, 73 disabled)
Vehicles lost 61 (9 destroyed, 52 disabled)
Assaulting units:
2nd Marine Division
31st Infantry Division
637th Tank Destroyer Battalion
3rd Motor Brigade
11th Indian Division
3rd Marine Division
40th Infantry Division
105th Rifle Division
365th Rifle Division
203rd Rifle Division
96th Coast AA Regiment
1/198th Coast AA Battalion
163rd Light AA Regiment
1st Indian Heavy AA Regiment
56th Rifle Corps
35th Army
4th USMC Field Artillery Battalion
26th Guards Mortar Brigade
Defending units:
Maizuru 1st SNLF
7th RGC Temp. Division
11th Tank Regiment
13th RGC Temp. Division
8th Tank Regiment
104th Division
118th Division
5th Raiding Force /1
28th RGC Temp. Division
23rd Ind.Mixed Brigade
26th Division
5th South Seas Det. /1
Wake Coastal Gun Battalion
55th Air Division
65th Construction Battalion
206th Naval Construction Battalion
2nd Mortar Battalion
49th Mountain Gun Regiment
66th JNAF AF Unit
14th Base Force
49th Ind.Mixed Bde /3
Hankow Special Base Force
31st Special Base Force
23rd RF Gun Battalion
227th Naval Construction Battalion
18th RF Gun Battalion
56th JNAF AF Unit
53rd Ind.Mixed Bde /1
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Here is the DS probably collecting new transports.
The Allies hit Kobe hard on the 24th. They continue to hit troops by day in China, and our rag-tag group of units is pushing hard to get to Chungking without further losses. Not sure they'll make it. I think I'll get about 3,500AV into Chungking by the time the Allies can get there, but not much supply left.
The Allies attack at Hankow and lower forts but take decent losses for this late in game.
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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Dec 24, 1945
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Night Air attack on Kobe , at 108,59
Weather in hex: Moderate rain
Raid detected at 79 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 27 minutes
Japanese aircraft
F1M2 Pete x 9
J1N1-Sa Irving x 23
P1Y2-S Frances x 4
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 18
Ki-45 KAId Nick x 27
Ki-102b Randy x 29
Ki-102c Randy x 8
Allied aircraft
Liberator B.VI x 6
B-29-25 Superfort x 14
B-29B Superfort x 4
Japanese aircraft losses
J1N1-Sa Irving: 1 destroyed
Ki-45 KAIa Nick: 1 destroyed
Ki-102b Randy: 1 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
Liberator B.VI: 2 damaged
B-29-25 Superfort: 6 damaged
B-29B Superfort: 1 damaged
Aircraft Attacking:
6 x Liberator B.VI bombing from 10000 feet
City Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
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Night Air attack on Kobe , at 108,59
Weather in hex: Moderate rain
Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 24 minutes
Japanese aircraft
F1M2 Pete x 9
J1N1-Sa Irving x 19
P1Y2-S Frances x 3
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 13
Ki-45 KAId Nick x 29
Ki-102b Randy x 21
Ki-102c Randy x 8
Allied aircraft
B-29-25 Superfort x 31
B-29B Superfort x 8
Japanese aircraft losses
F1M2 Pete: 1 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
B-29-25 Superfort: 23 damaged
B-29B Superfort: 6 damaged
Manpower hits 182
Fires 118034
Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B-29-25 Superfort bombing from 8000 feet
City Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb
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Morning Air attack on 12th Tank Regiment, at 75,43 , near Neikiang
Weather in hex: Overcast
Raid spotted at 34 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes
Allied aircraft
B-29-25 Superfort x 35
No Allied losses
Japanese ground losses:
Guns lost 10 (5 destroyed, 5 disabled)
Vehicles lost 138 (10 destroyed, 128 disabled)
Aircraft Attacking:
6 x B-29-25 Superfort bombing from 8000 feet
Ground Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb
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Ground combat at Hankow (85,50)
Allied Deliberate attack
Attacking force 109114 troops, 1622 guns, 914 vehicles, Assault Value = 3569
Defending force 78400 troops, 681 guns, 437 vehicles, Assault Value = 2033
Allied engineers reduce fortifications to 5
Allied adjusted assault: 2319
Japanese adjusted defense: 6433
Allied assault odds: 1 to 2 (fort level 5)
Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), supply(-)
Attacker:
Japanese ground losses:
610 casualties reported
Squads: 14 destroyed, 85 disabled
Non Combat: 4 destroyed, 47 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 8 disabled
Guns lost 36 (6 destroyed, 30 disabled)
Vehicles lost 43 (9 destroyed, 34 disabled)
Allied ground losses:
2430 casualties reported
Squads: 18 destroyed, 444 disabled
Non Combat: 5 destroyed, 97 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 60 disabled
Guns lost 85 (12 destroyed, 73 disabled)
Vehicles lost 61 (9 destroyed, 52 disabled)
Assaulting units:
2nd Marine Division
31st Infantry Division
637th Tank Destroyer Battalion
3rd Motor Brigade
11th Indian Division
3rd Marine Division
40th Infantry Division
105th Rifle Division
365th Rifle Division
203rd Rifle Division
96th Coast AA Regiment
1/198th Coast AA Battalion
163rd Light AA Regiment
1st Indian Heavy AA Regiment
56th Rifle Corps
35th Army
4th USMC Field Artillery Battalion
26th Guards Mortar Brigade
Defending units:
Maizuru 1st SNLF
7th RGC Temp. Division
11th Tank Regiment
13th RGC Temp. Division
8th Tank Regiment
104th Division
118th Division
5th Raiding Force /1
28th RGC Temp. Division
23rd Ind.Mixed Brigade
26th Division
5th South Seas Det. /1
Wake Coastal Gun Battalion
55th Air Division
65th Construction Battalion
206th Naval Construction Battalion
2nd Mortar Battalion
49th Mountain Gun Regiment
66th JNAF AF Unit
14th Base Force
49th Ind.Mixed Bde /3
Hankow Special Base Force
31st Special Base Force
23rd RF Gun Battalion
227th Naval Construction Battalion
18th RF Gun Battalion
56th JNAF AF Unit
53rd Ind.Mixed Bde /1
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Here is the DS probably collecting new transports.
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[font="Times New Roman"]December 26-27, 1945[/font]
Not much going on to report these turns. Only a smallish night strike on Fukuoka and Shimonoseki, plus some more movement by the DS collecting transports. Now it's headed back toward China.
The Allies attempt to cut off troops going back to Chungking but it looks like the majority will make it fairly intact. there is one good untouched ID here I'd like to get across that river and behind those level 6 forts.
Some Jills show just how unassailable the DS is now.
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Morning Air attack on TF, near Iwo-jima at 106,77
Weather in hex: Thunderstorms
Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 7,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 26 minutes
Japanese aircraft
B6N2a Jill x 24
Allied aircraft
Corsair II x 25
Corsair IV x 121
Hellcat I x 60
Hellcat F.II x 74
Seafire IIC x 45
Seafire L.III x 84
Seafire F.XV x 18
Wildcat V x 15
Wildcat VI x 11
F4U-1A Corsair x 132
F4U-1D Corsair x 536
F4U-4 Corsair x 117
F6F-3 Hellcat x 215
F6F-5 Hellcat x 780
F8F-1 Bearcat x 34
Japanese aircraft losses
B6N2a Jill: 13 destroyed
No Allied losses
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Ground combat at 76,46 (near Chungking)
Allied Shock attack
Attacking force 3336 troops, 16 guns, 220 vehicles, Assault Value = 1923
Defending force 68186 troops, 437 guns, 173 vehicles, Assault Value = 1190
Allied adjusted assault: 85
Japanese adjusted defense: 313
Allied assault odds: 1 to 3
Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+)
Attacker: shock(+)
Japanese ground losses:
168 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 11 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 2 destroyed, 4 disabled
Allied ground losses:
59 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 5 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Vehicles lost 7 (1 destroyed, 6 disabled)
Assaulting units:
378th Guards SU Regiment
6th USMC Tank Battalion
5th Guards Tank Corps
19th Motorised Division
335th Guards SU Regiment
74th Tank Brigade
9th Guards Mechanized Corps
Defending units:
39th Division
105th Ind.Mixed Brigade
27th Division
40th Division
37th Division
5th Division
2nd Division
35th/B Division
2nd Rocket Gun Battalion
60th Construction Battalion
68th JNAF AF Unit
15th Army
17th Ind.Mixed Brigade
86th JAAF AF Bn
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Not much going on to report these turns. Only a smallish night strike on Fukuoka and Shimonoseki, plus some more movement by the DS collecting transports. Now it's headed back toward China.
The Allies attempt to cut off troops going back to Chungking but it looks like the majority will make it fairly intact. there is one good untouched ID here I'd like to get across that river and behind those level 6 forts.
Some Jills show just how unassailable the DS is now.
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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Dec 27, 1945
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Morning Air attack on TF, near Iwo-jima at 106,77
Weather in hex: Thunderstorms
Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 7,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 26 minutes
Japanese aircraft
B6N2a Jill x 24
Allied aircraft
Corsair II x 25
Corsair IV x 121
Hellcat I x 60
Hellcat F.II x 74
Seafire IIC x 45
Seafire L.III x 84
Seafire F.XV x 18
Wildcat V x 15
Wildcat VI x 11
F4U-1A Corsair x 132
F4U-1D Corsair x 536
F4U-4 Corsair x 117
F6F-3 Hellcat x 215
F6F-5 Hellcat x 780
F8F-1 Bearcat x 34
Japanese aircraft losses
B6N2a Jill: 13 destroyed
No Allied losses
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Ground combat at 76,46 (near Chungking)
Allied Shock attack
Attacking force 3336 troops, 16 guns, 220 vehicles, Assault Value = 1923
Defending force 68186 troops, 437 guns, 173 vehicles, Assault Value = 1190
Allied adjusted assault: 85
Japanese adjusted defense: 313
Allied assault odds: 1 to 3
Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+)
Attacker: shock(+)
Japanese ground losses:
168 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 11 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 2 destroyed, 4 disabled
Allied ground losses:
59 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 5 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Vehicles lost 7 (1 destroyed, 6 disabled)
Assaulting units:
378th Guards SU Regiment
6th USMC Tank Battalion
5th Guards Tank Corps
19th Motorised Division
335th Guards SU Regiment
74th Tank Brigade
9th Guards Mechanized Corps
Defending units:
39th Division
105th Ind.Mixed Brigade
27th Division
40th Division
37th Division
5th Division
2nd Division
35th/B Division
2nd Rocket Gun Battalion
60th Construction Battalion
68th JNAF AF Unit
15th Army
17th Ind.Mixed Brigade
86th JAAF AF Bn
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[font="Times New Roman"]December 28-29, 1945[/font]
On the 28th the Allies again go for Osaka. Although the NF and flak take another big chunk out of the strikes, the damage is done. Big fires burn, up over 300k. Lots of industry and other points go up in flames.
The Allies catch some of the fleeing troops one hex outside of Chungking. The untouched ID made it in but many of the others already compromised are gutted now. The defense will be about 3,200AV it looks like. There are tank divisions which should help.
The Allies are repulsed with a 1:2 at Hankow though, which is cool.
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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Dec 28, 1945
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Night Air attack on Osaka/Kyoto , at 109,59
Weather in hex: Overcast
Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 26 minutes
Japanese aircraft
J1N1-Sa Irving x 28
P1Y2-S Frances x 6
Ki-45 KAId Nick x 50
Ki-102b Randy x 17
Ki-102c Randy x 15
Allied aircraft
Lancaster B.1 Spcl x 7
Lancaster B.1 FE x 14
B-24J Liberator x 17
B-29-25 Superfort x 15
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-45 KAId Nick: 1 destroyed
Ki-102b Randy: 1 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
Lancaster B.1 Spcl: 1 damaged
Lancaster B.1 FE: 1 destroyed, 8 damaged
B-24J Liberator: 9 damaged
B-24J Liberator: 1 destroyed by flak
B-29-25 Superfort: 9 damaged
B-29-25 Superfort: 1 destroyed by flak
Manpower hits 35
Fires 15563
Aircraft Attacking:
5 x Lancaster B.1 FE bombing from 9000 feet
City Attack: 1 x 4000 lb GP Bomb, 6 x 1000 lb GP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb GP Bomb
8 x Lancaster B.1 FE bombing from 9000 feet
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Ground combat at 76,46 (near Chungking)
Allied Shock attack
Attacking force 67271 troops, 823 guns, 2713 vehicles, Assault Value = 5343
Defending force 63925 troops, 399 guns, 161 vehicles, Assault Value = 1155
Allied adjusted assault: 1179
Japanese adjusted defense: 865
Allied assault odds: 1 to 1
Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), supply(-)
Attacker: shock(+)
Japanese ground losses:
1222 casualties reported
Squads: 76 destroyed, 91 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 21 disabled
Engineers: 8 destroyed, 6 disabled
Guns lost 29 (3 destroyed, 26 disabled)
Allied ground losses:
1043 casualties reported
Squads: 3 destroyed, 123 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 15 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 11 disabled
Guns lost 23 (5 destroyed, 18 disabled)
Vehicles lost 38 (2 destroyed, 36 disabled)
Assaulting units:
254th Armoured Brigade
395th Guards SU Regiment
172nd Brigade
2/6th Armoured Regiment
7th Guards Mechanized Corps
193rd Tank Battalion
74th Tank Brigade
9th Guards Mechanized Corps
762nd Tank Battalion
111th Tank Division
735th SU Regiment
3rd Guards Mechanized Corps
2nd USMC Amphb Tank Battalion
73rd Tank Brigade
50th Tank Brigade
710th Tank Battalion
6th USMC Tank Battalion
44th Tank Battalion
19th Motorised Division
766th Tank Battalion
255th Indian Tank Brigade
3rd Carabiniers Regiment
335th Guards SU Regiment
5th Guards Tank Corps
1st Regt de Cheval Regiment
2nd USMC Tank Battalion
150th RAC Regiment
378th Guards SU Regiment
43rd Tank Brigade
Defending units:
39th Division
5th Division
40th Division
2nd Division
27th Division
37th Division
35th/B Division
15th Army
17th Ind.Mixed Brigade
86th JAAF AF Bn
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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Dec 29, 1945
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Ground combat at 76,46 (near Chungking)
Allied Shock attack
Attacking force 185641 troops, 2962 guns, 9891 vehicles, Assault Value = 8181
Defending force 42100 troops, 255 guns, 63 vehicles, Assault Value = 575
Allied adjusted assault: 3210
Japanese adjusted defense: 97
Allied assault odds: 33 to 1
Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), disruption(-), supply(-)
Attacker: shock(+)
Japanese ground losses:
17318 casualties reported
Squads: 727 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 569 destroyed, 30 disabled
Engineers: 23 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 45 (44 destroyed, 1 disabled)
Vehicles lost 18 (16 destroyed, 2 disabled)
Units retreated 6
Allied ground losses:
424 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 54 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 43 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 8 disabled
Guns lost 16 (1 destroyed, 15 disabled)
Vehicles lost 67 (4 destroyed, 63 disabled)
Units pursuing 1
Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!
Assaulting units:
254th Armoured Brigade
73rd Tank Brigade
762nd Tank Battalion
6th USMC Tank Battalion
193rd Tank Battalion
735th SU Regiment
766th Tank Battalion
2nd British Division
3rd Guards Mechanized Corps
7th Indian Division
378th Guards SU Regiment
9th Guards Mechanized Corps
Tenth Army Combat Engineer Regiment
172nd Brigade
395th Guards SU Regiment
711th Tank Battalion
3rd Carabiniers Regiment
2nd USMC Amphb Tank Battalion
43rd Tank Brigade
7th Guards Mechanized Corps
6th Marine Division
1st Regt de Cheval Regiment
111th Tank Division
2/6th Armoured Regiment
2/4th Armoured Regiment
44th Tank Battalion
XXIV Corps Combat Engineer Regiment
23rd Indian Division
710th Tank Battalion
19th Motorised Division
74th Tank Brigade
17th Motorised Division
2nd USMC Tank Battalion
150th RAC Regiment
50th Tank Brigade
255th Indian Tank Brigade
335th Guards SU Regiment
5th Guards Tank Corps
7th Australian Division
25th Mechanized Brigade
12th USMC Field Artillery Battalion
98th Coast AA Regiment
8th Medium Regiment
165th Field Artillery Battalion
23rd Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
X Corps Artillery
1141st Cannon Regiment
XXXIII Indian Corps
2nd Indian Medium Regiment
1st Medium Regiment
208th Coast AA Regiment
131st Field Artillery Battalion
223rd Field Artillery Battalion
6th Medium Regiment
85/88/98th Mortar Regiment
462nd Parachute Field Artillery Battalion
249th Field Artillery Battalion
154th FA Bn
543 & 545 Field Artillery Battalion
60th Guards Mortar Regiment
134th Field Artillery Battalion
168th Field Artillery Regiment
53rd Guards Mortar Regiment
1316th Anti-Tank Brigade
422nd Rocket Field Artillery Battalion
XIV US Corps
150th/387th PVO AA Battalion
IX Corps Artillery
52nd Guards Mortar Regiment
35th Anti-Tank Brigade
122nd British AT Gun Regiment
1917th AA Regiment
18th SP Field Artillery Regiment
55th Heavy Regiment
408th PVO AA Battalion
XV Indian Corps
6th Gd.Breakthrough Artillery Division
1st USMC Field Artillery Battalion
152nd Cannon Brigade
5th USMC Field Artillery Battalion
461st Mortar Regiment
1st Indian Medium Regiment
8th USMC Field Artillery Battalion
17th AA Division
3rd Front
Defending units:
27th Division
39th Division
37th Division
40th Division
2nd Division
17th Ind.Mixed Brigade
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Ground combat at Hankow (85,50)
Allied Deliberate attack
Attacking force 106052 troops, 1619 guns, 910 vehicles, Assault Value = 3142
Defending force 76990 troops, 664 guns, 429 vehicles, Assault Value = 1892
Allied engineers reduce fortifications to 4
Allied adjusted assault: 2192
Japanese adjusted defense: 6437
Allied assault odds: 1 to 2 (fort level 4)
Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), preparation(-), supply(-)
Attacker:
Japanese ground losses:
1569 casualties reported
Squads: 12 destroyed, 98 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 26 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 8 disabled
Guns lost 12 (2 destroyed, 10 disabled)
Vehicles lost 5 (1 destroyed, 4 disabled)
Allied ground losses:
3907 casualties reported
Squads: 14 destroyed, 548 disabled
Non Combat: 13 destroyed, 73 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 57 disabled
Guns lost 99 (4 destroyed, 95 disabled)
Vehicles lost 41 (21 destroyed, 20 disabled)
Assaulting units:
3rd Marine Division
3rd Motor Brigade
365th Rifle Division
637th Tank Destroyer Battalion
2nd Marine Division
40th Infantry Division
105th Rifle Division
11th Indian Division
31st Infantry Division
203rd Rifle Division
163rd Light AA Regiment
35th Army
1st Indian Heavy AA Regiment
96th Coast AA Regiment
4th USMC Field Artillery Battalion
1/198th Coast AA Battalion
56th Rifle Corps
26th Guards Mortar Brigade
Defending units:
13th RGC Temp. Division
118th Division
23rd Ind.Mixed Brigade
104th Division
Maizuru 1st SNLF
7th RGC Temp. Division
26th Division
28th RGC Temp. Division
8th Tank Regiment
11th Tank Regiment
5th South Seas Det. /1
56th JNAF AF Unit
227th Naval Construction Battalion
49th Mountain Gun Regiment
49th Ind.Mixed Bde /3
206th Naval Construction Battalion
31st Special Base Force
14th Base Force
5th Raiding Force /1
18th RF Gun Battalion
23rd RF Gun Battalion
Wake Coastal Gun Battalion
2nd Mortar Battalion
66th JNAF AF Unit
Hankow Special Base Force
55th Air Division
65th Construction Battalion
53rd Ind.Mixed Bde /1
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On the 28th the Allies again go for Osaka. Although the NF and flak take another big chunk out of the strikes, the damage is done. Big fires burn, up over 300k. Lots of industry and other points go up in flames.
The Allies catch some of the fleeing troops one hex outside of Chungking. The untouched ID made it in but many of the others already compromised are gutted now. The defense will be about 3,200AV it looks like. There are tank divisions which should help.
The Allies are repulsed with a 1:2 at Hankow though, which is cool.
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Night Air attack on Osaka/Kyoto , at 109,59
Weather in hex: Overcast
Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 26 minutes
Japanese aircraft
J1N1-Sa Irving x 28
P1Y2-S Frances x 6
Ki-45 KAId Nick x 50
Ki-102b Randy x 17
Ki-102c Randy x 15
Allied aircraft
Lancaster B.1 Spcl x 7
Lancaster B.1 FE x 14
B-24J Liberator x 17
B-29-25 Superfort x 15
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-45 KAId Nick: 1 destroyed
Ki-102b Randy: 1 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
Lancaster B.1 Spcl: 1 damaged
Lancaster B.1 FE: 1 destroyed, 8 damaged
B-24J Liberator: 9 damaged
B-24J Liberator: 1 destroyed by flak
B-29-25 Superfort: 9 damaged
B-29-25 Superfort: 1 destroyed by flak
Manpower hits 35
Fires 15563
Aircraft Attacking:
5 x Lancaster B.1 FE bombing from 9000 feet
City Attack: 1 x 4000 lb GP Bomb, 6 x 1000 lb GP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb GP Bomb
8 x Lancaster B.1 FE bombing from 9000 feet
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Ground combat at 76,46 (near Chungking)
Allied Shock attack
Attacking force 67271 troops, 823 guns, 2713 vehicles, Assault Value = 5343
Defending force 63925 troops, 399 guns, 161 vehicles, Assault Value = 1155
Allied adjusted assault: 1179
Japanese adjusted defense: 865
Allied assault odds: 1 to 1
Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), supply(-)
Attacker: shock(+)
Japanese ground losses:
1222 casualties reported
Squads: 76 destroyed, 91 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 21 disabled
Engineers: 8 destroyed, 6 disabled
Guns lost 29 (3 destroyed, 26 disabled)
Allied ground losses:
1043 casualties reported
Squads: 3 destroyed, 123 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 15 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 11 disabled
Guns lost 23 (5 destroyed, 18 disabled)
Vehicles lost 38 (2 destroyed, 36 disabled)
Assaulting units:
254th Armoured Brigade
395th Guards SU Regiment
172nd Brigade
2/6th Armoured Regiment
7th Guards Mechanized Corps
193rd Tank Battalion
74th Tank Brigade
9th Guards Mechanized Corps
762nd Tank Battalion
111th Tank Division
735th SU Regiment
3rd Guards Mechanized Corps
2nd USMC Amphb Tank Battalion
73rd Tank Brigade
50th Tank Brigade
710th Tank Battalion
6th USMC Tank Battalion
44th Tank Battalion
19th Motorised Division
766th Tank Battalion
255th Indian Tank Brigade
3rd Carabiniers Regiment
335th Guards SU Regiment
5th Guards Tank Corps
1st Regt de Cheval Regiment
2nd USMC Tank Battalion
150th RAC Regiment
378th Guards SU Regiment
43rd Tank Brigade
Defending units:
39th Division
5th Division
40th Division
2nd Division
27th Division
37th Division
35th/B Division
15th Army
17th Ind.Mixed Brigade
86th JAAF AF Bn
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Ground combat at 76,46 (near Chungking)
Allied Shock attack
Attacking force 185641 troops, 2962 guns, 9891 vehicles, Assault Value = 8181
Defending force 42100 troops, 255 guns, 63 vehicles, Assault Value = 575
Allied adjusted assault: 3210
Japanese adjusted defense: 97
Allied assault odds: 33 to 1
Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), disruption(-), supply(-)
Attacker: shock(+)
Japanese ground losses:
17318 casualties reported
Squads: 727 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 569 destroyed, 30 disabled
Engineers: 23 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 45 (44 destroyed, 1 disabled)
Vehicles lost 18 (16 destroyed, 2 disabled)
Units retreated 6
Allied ground losses:
424 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 54 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 43 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 8 disabled
Guns lost 16 (1 destroyed, 15 disabled)
Vehicles lost 67 (4 destroyed, 63 disabled)
Units pursuing 1
Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!
Assaulting units:
254th Armoured Brigade
73rd Tank Brigade
762nd Tank Battalion
6th USMC Tank Battalion
193rd Tank Battalion
735th SU Regiment
766th Tank Battalion
2nd British Division
3rd Guards Mechanized Corps
7th Indian Division
378th Guards SU Regiment
9th Guards Mechanized Corps
Tenth Army Combat Engineer Regiment
172nd Brigade
395th Guards SU Regiment
711th Tank Battalion
3rd Carabiniers Regiment
2nd USMC Amphb Tank Battalion
43rd Tank Brigade
7th Guards Mechanized Corps
6th Marine Division
1st Regt de Cheval Regiment
111th Tank Division
2/6th Armoured Regiment
2/4th Armoured Regiment
44th Tank Battalion
XXIV Corps Combat Engineer Regiment
23rd Indian Division
710th Tank Battalion
19th Motorised Division
74th Tank Brigade
17th Motorised Division
2nd USMC Tank Battalion
150th RAC Regiment
50th Tank Brigade
255th Indian Tank Brigade
335th Guards SU Regiment
5th Guards Tank Corps
7th Australian Division
25th Mechanized Brigade
12th USMC Field Artillery Battalion
98th Coast AA Regiment
8th Medium Regiment
165th Field Artillery Battalion
23rd Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
X Corps Artillery
1141st Cannon Regiment
XXXIII Indian Corps
2nd Indian Medium Regiment
1st Medium Regiment
208th Coast AA Regiment
131st Field Artillery Battalion
223rd Field Artillery Battalion
6th Medium Regiment
85/88/98th Mortar Regiment
462nd Parachute Field Artillery Battalion
249th Field Artillery Battalion
154th FA Bn
543 & 545 Field Artillery Battalion
60th Guards Mortar Regiment
134th Field Artillery Battalion
168th Field Artillery Regiment
53rd Guards Mortar Regiment
1316th Anti-Tank Brigade
422nd Rocket Field Artillery Battalion
XIV US Corps
150th/387th PVO AA Battalion
IX Corps Artillery
52nd Guards Mortar Regiment
35th Anti-Tank Brigade
122nd British AT Gun Regiment
1917th AA Regiment
18th SP Field Artillery Regiment
55th Heavy Regiment
408th PVO AA Battalion
XV Indian Corps
6th Gd.Breakthrough Artillery Division
1st USMC Field Artillery Battalion
152nd Cannon Brigade
5th USMC Field Artillery Battalion
461st Mortar Regiment
1st Indian Medium Regiment
8th USMC Field Artillery Battalion
17th AA Division
3rd Front
Defending units:
27th Division
39th Division
37th Division
40th Division
2nd Division
17th Ind.Mixed Brigade
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Ground combat at Hankow (85,50)
Allied Deliberate attack
Attacking force 106052 troops, 1619 guns, 910 vehicles, Assault Value = 3142
Defending force 76990 troops, 664 guns, 429 vehicles, Assault Value = 1892
Allied engineers reduce fortifications to 4
Allied adjusted assault: 2192
Japanese adjusted defense: 6437
Allied assault odds: 1 to 2 (fort level 4)
Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), preparation(-), supply(-)
Attacker:
Japanese ground losses:
1569 casualties reported
Squads: 12 destroyed, 98 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 26 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 8 disabled
Guns lost 12 (2 destroyed, 10 disabled)
Vehicles lost 5 (1 destroyed, 4 disabled)
Allied ground losses:
3907 casualties reported
Squads: 14 destroyed, 548 disabled
Non Combat: 13 destroyed, 73 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 57 disabled
Guns lost 99 (4 destroyed, 95 disabled)
Vehicles lost 41 (21 destroyed, 20 disabled)
Assaulting units:
3rd Marine Division
3rd Motor Brigade
365th Rifle Division
637th Tank Destroyer Battalion
2nd Marine Division
40th Infantry Division
105th Rifle Division
11th Indian Division
31st Infantry Division
203rd Rifle Division
163rd Light AA Regiment
35th Army
1st Indian Heavy AA Regiment
96th Coast AA Regiment
4th USMC Field Artillery Battalion
1/198th Coast AA Battalion
56th Rifle Corps
26th Guards Mortar Brigade
Defending units:
13th RGC Temp. Division
118th Division
23rd Ind.Mixed Brigade
104th Division
Maizuru 1st SNLF
7th RGC Temp. Division
26th Division
28th RGC Temp. Division
8th Tank Regiment
11th Tank Regiment
5th South Seas Det. /1
56th JNAF AF Unit
227th Naval Construction Battalion
49th Mountain Gun Regiment
49th Ind.Mixed Bde /3
206th Naval Construction Battalion
31st Special Base Force
14th Base Force
5th Raiding Force /1
18th RF Gun Battalion
23rd RF Gun Battalion
Wake Coastal Gun Battalion
2nd Mortar Battalion
66th JNAF AF Unit
Hankow Special Base Force
55th Air Division
65th Construction Battalion
53rd Ind.Mixed Bde /1
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[font="Times New Roman"]December 30, 1945[/font]
Sometimes it takes a while to see the effects of choices made in this game. For this game in particular it's a very long time since certain decisions were made.
On the 30th I finally got to see the results of a defensive choice I made sometime in the mid-game after learning about the late war Allied strat bombing in my other "Wild-Sheep's Chase" game against JockMeister. In that game I'd set up decent defenses, but the Allies still decimated the Japanese economy in less than 6 months, and by July of 45 the game ended with little supply left to fight with.
Since I was still in the middle of this one I opted to strengthen the Home Island AA and NF defenses. I increased the size of the NF groups I could resize. I put my best pilots into NF groups. I made sure Osaka and Tokyo had the majority of AA and good Base Forces with the most up to date radar and built up the forts.
So far the Allies have only targeted Tokyo with A-bombs. Today, finally, they came in with all of the B-29s and any other 4E in range that they could send. I was surprised to find the combination of NF and flak here almost completely protected the city's industry. It looks like he may have targeted individual factories rather than Manpower (reduced by the A-bombs to 0(64)) and this may have contributed, but the Allied beasts suffered as well. Nearly every attack package lost at least a plane to flak and manny were also downed by the NF, (some of which I'd kept at 0 hex range to defend only Tokyo).
I'll attach the whole CR for anyone who wants to see the whole picture of the carnage. These turns take over 30 minutes to watch even when escaping from every combat, and the night strikes fill 90% of the report.
The Allies also crossed the Chungking river and shocked, taking decent losses to this armor heavy group of units. It's only about half of the army. The rest will reduce the base slowly and steadily and I ppredict it'll only by a matter of weeks before China is entirely Allied.
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Night Air attack on Tokyo , at 114,60
Weather in hex: Partial cloud
Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 27 minutes
Japanese aircraft
J1N1-Sa Irving x 54
P1Y2-S Frances x 26
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 6
Ki-45 KAId Nick x 28
Ki-102b Randy x 69
Ki-102c Randy x 28
Allied aircraft
Lancaster B.1 FE x 4
B-24J Liberator x 10
B-29-25 Superfort x 3
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-102b Randy: 1 destroyed
Ki-102c Randy: 1 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
Lancaster B.1 FE: 1 destroyed, 3 damaged
B-24J Liberator: 5 damaged
B-24J Liberator: 2 destroyed by flak
B-29-25 Superfort: 2 destroyed by flak
Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Lancaster B.1 FE bombing from 10000 feet
City Attack: 1 x 4000 lb GP Bomb, 6 x 1000 lb GP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb GP Bomb
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Night Air attack on Tokyo , at 114,60
Weather in hex: Partial cloud
Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 24 minutes
Japanese aircraft
J1N1-Sa Irving x 51
P1Y2-S Frances x 23
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 6
Ki-45 KAId Nick x 27
Ki-102b Randy x 66
Ki-102c Randy x 25
Allied aircraft
B-29-1 Superfort x 9
B-29-25 Superfort x 52
B-29B Superfort x 8
Japanese aircraft losses
J1N1-Sa Irving: 3 destroyed
Ki-45 KAId Nick: 1 destroyed
Ki-102b Randy: 2 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
B-29-1 Superfort: 6 damaged
B-29-25 Superfort: 27 damaged
B-29-25 Superfort: 1 destroyed by flak
B-29B Superfort: 4 damaged
Light Industry hits 2
Aircraft Attacking:
4 x B-29B Superfort bombing from 12000 feet
City Attack: 36 x 500 lb GP Bomb
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Ground combat at Chungking (76,45)
Allied Shock attack
Attacking force 149361 troops, 1394 guns, 8326 vehicles, Assault Value = 4853
Defending force 158704 troops, 1189 guns, 2372 vehicles, Assault Value = 3291
Allied adjusted assault: 2140
Japanese adjusted defense: 4417
Allied assault odds: 1 to 2 (fort level 6)
Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), preparation(-), supply(-)
Attacker: shock(+), disruption(-)
Japanese ground losses:
4793 casualties reported
Squads: 77 destroyed, 108 disabled
Non Combat: 62 destroyed, 113 disabled
Engineers: 10 destroyed, 29 disabled
Guns lost 29 (14 destroyed, 15 disabled)
Vehicles lost 68 (18 destroyed, 50 disabled)
Units destroyed 1
Allied ground losses:
4663 casualties reported
Squads: 123 destroyed, 381 disabled
Non Combat: 43 destroyed, 573 disabled
Engineers: 6 destroyed, 56 disabled
Guns lost 171 (18 destroyed, 153 disabled)
Vehicles lost 886 (137 destroyed, 749 disabled)
Units destroyed 1
Assaulting units:
735th SU Regiment
255th Indian Tank Brigade
19th Motorised Division
2nd USMC Amphb Tank Battalion
3rd Carabiniers Regiment
710th Tank Battalion
150th RAC Regiment
50th Tank Brigade
711th Tank Battalion
395th Guards SU Regiment
6th USMC Tank Battalion
254th Armoured Brigade
43rd Tank Brigade
73rd Tank Brigade
172nd Brigade
74th Tank Brigade
2/6th Armoured Regiment
1st Regt de Cheval Regiment
378th Guards SU Regiment
335th Guards SU Regiment
2nd USMC Tank Battalion
2/4th Armoured Regiment
5th Guards Tank Corps
766th Tank Battalion
44th Tank Battalion
3rd Guards Mechanized Corps
193rd Tank Battalion
7th Guards Mechanized Corps
111th Tank Division
762nd Tank Battalion
25th Mechanized Brigade
Defending units:
35th/B Division
21st Division
105th Ind.Mixed Brigade
89th Division
88th Ind.Mixed Brigade
4th Tank Division
2nd Tank Division
2nd Ind.Mixed Brigade
12th Tank Regiment
9th Tank Regiment
3rd Tank Division
2nd Ind.Infantry Brigade
1st Amphibious Brigade
16th RGC Temp. Division
37th Division
40th Division
39th Division
30th Division
27th Division
5th Division
102nd Division
85th Ind.Mixed Brigade
2nd Division
35th/C Division
20th Ind. Mtn Gun Battalion
112th AA Regiment
1st Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
15th Army
6th Garrison Unit
38th Army
3rd Tank Regiment
60th Construction Battalion
51st Road Const Co
16th JAAF Base Force
61st Construction Battalion
108th Division
28th Ind.Mixed Brigade
17th Ind.Mixed Brigade
2nd Rocket Gun Battalion
86th JAAF AF Bn
68th JNAF AF Unit
12th JAAF AF Coy
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Sometimes it takes a while to see the effects of choices made in this game. For this game in particular it's a very long time since certain decisions were made.
On the 30th I finally got to see the results of a defensive choice I made sometime in the mid-game after learning about the late war Allied strat bombing in my other "Wild-Sheep's Chase" game against JockMeister. In that game I'd set up decent defenses, but the Allies still decimated the Japanese economy in less than 6 months, and by July of 45 the game ended with little supply left to fight with.
Since I was still in the middle of this one I opted to strengthen the Home Island AA and NF defenses. I increased the size of the NF groups I could resize. I put my best pilots into NF groups. I made sure Osaka and Tokyo had the majority of AA and good Base Forces with the most up to date radar and built up the forts.
So far the Allies have only targeted Tokyo with A-bombs. Today, finally, they came in with all of the B-29s and any other 4E in range that they could send. I was surprised to find the combination of NF and flak here almost completely protected the city's industry. It looks like he may have targeted individual factories rather than Manpower (reduced by the A-bombs to 0(64)) and this may have contributed, but the Allied beasts suffered as well. Nearly every attack package lost at least a plane to flak and manny were also downed by the NF, (some of which I'd kept at 0 hex range to defend only Tokyo).
I'll attach the whole CR for anyone who wants to see the whole picture of the carnage. These turns take over 30 minutes to watch even when escaping from every combat, and the night strikes fill 90% of the report.
The Allies also crossed the Chungking river and shocked, taking decent losses to this armor heavy group of units. It's only about half of the army. The rest will reduce the base slowly and steadily and I ppredict it'll only by a matter of weeks before China is entirely Allied.
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Night Air attack on Tokyo , at 114,60
Weather in hex: Partial cloud
Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 27 minutes
Japanese aircraft
J1N1-Sa Irving x 54
P1Y2-S Frances x 26
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 6
Ki-45 KAId Nick x 28
Ki-102b Randy x 69
Ki-102c Randy x 28
Allied aircraft
Lancaster B.1 FE x 4
B-24J Liberator x 10
B-29-25 Superfort x 3
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-102b Randy: 1 destroyed
Ki-102c Randy: 1 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
Lancaster B.1 FE: 1 destroyed, 3 damaged
B-24J Liberator: 5 damaged
B-24J Liberator: 2 destroyed by flak
B-29-25 Superfort: 2 destroyed by flak
Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Lancaster B.1 FE bombing from 10000 feet
City Attack: 1 x 4000 lb GP Bomb, 6 x 1000 lb GP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb GP Bomb
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Night Air attack on Tokyo , at 114,60
Weather in hex: Partial cloud
Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 24 minutes
Japanese aircraft
J1N1-Sa Irving x 51
P1Y2-S Frances x 23
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 6
Ki-45 KAId Nick x 27
Ki-102b Randy x 66
Ki-102c Randy x 25
Allied aircraft
B-29-1 Superfort x 9
B-29-25 Superfort x 52
B-29B Superfort x 8
Japanese aircraft losses
J1N1-Sa Irving: 3 destroyed
Ki-45 KAId Nick: 1 destroyed
Ki-102b Randy: 2 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
B-29-1 Superfort: 6 damaged
B-29-25 Superfort: 27 damaged
B-29-25 Superfort: 1 destroyed by flak
B-29B Superfort: 4 damaged
Light Industry hits 2
Aircraft Attacking:
4 x B-29B Superfort bombing from 12000 feet
City Attack: 36 x 500 lb GP Bomb
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Ground combat at Chungking (76,45)
Allied Shock attack
Attacking force 149361 troops, 1394 guns, 8326 vehicles, Assault Value = 4853
Defending force 158704 troops, 1189 guns, 2372 vehicles, Assault Value = 3291
Allied adjusted assault: 2140
Japanese adjusted defense: 4417
Allied assault odds: 1 to 2 (fort level 6)
Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), preparation(-), supply(-)
Attacker: shock(+), disruption(-)
Japanese ground losses:
4793 casualties reported
Squads: 77 destroyed, 108 disabled
Non Combat: 62 destroyed, 113 disabled
Engineers: 10 destroyed, 29 disabled
Guns lost 29 (14 destroyed, 15 disabled)
Vehicles lost 68 (18 destroyed, 50 disabled)
Units destroyed 1
Allied ground losses:
4663 casualties reported
Squads: 123 destroyed, 381 disabled
Non Combat: 43 destroyed, 573 disabled
Engineers: 6 destroyed, 56 disabled
Guns lost 171 (18 destroyed, 153 disabled)
Vehicles lost 886 (137 destroyed, 749 disabled)
Units destroyed 1
Assaulting units:
735th SU Regiment
255th Indian Tank Brigade
19th Motorised Division
2nd USMC Amphb Tank Battalion
3rd Carabiniers Regiment
710th Tank Battalion
150th RAC Regiment
50th Tank Brigade
711th Tank Battalion
395th Guards SU Regiment
6th USMC Tank Battalion
254th Armoured Brigade
43rd Tank Brigade
73rd Tank Brigade
172nd Brigade
74th Tank Brigade
2/6th Armoured Regiment
1st Regt de Cheval Regiment
378th Guards SU Regiment
335th Guards SU Regiment
2nd USMC Tank Battalion
2/4th Armoured Regiment
5th Guards Tank Corps
766th Tank Battalion
44th Tank Battalion
3rd Guards Mechanized Corps
193rd Tank Battalion
7th Guards Mechanized Corps
111th Tank Division
762nd Tank Battalion
25th Mechanized Brigade
Defending units:
35th/B Division
21st Division
105th Ind.Mixed Brigade
89th Division
88th Ind.Mixed Brigade
4th Tank Division
2nd Tank Division
2nd Ind.Mixed Brigade
12th Tank Regiment
9th Tank Regiment
3rd Tank Division
2nd Ind.Infantry Brigade
1st Amphibious Brigade
16th RGC Temp. Division
37th Division
40th Division
39th Division
30th Division
27th Division
5th Division
102nd Division
85th Ind.Mixed Brigade
2nd Division
35th/C Division
20th Ind. Mtn Gun Battalion
112th AA Regiment
1st Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
15th Army
6th Garrison Unit
38th Army
3rd Tank Regiment
60th Construction Battalion
51st Road Const Co
16th JAAF Base Force
61st Construction Battalion
108th Division
28th Ind.Mixed Brigade
17th Ind.Mixed Brigade
2nd Rocket Gun Battalion
86th JAAF AF Bn
68th JNAF AF Unit
12th JAAF AF Coy
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The Allies also launched a daylight strike on Nagasaki which appeared before the 300 P-51H set to sweep. This led to a lot more B-17G losses. I'll take it!
A very good day in the air.
A very good day in the air.
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Info screen.
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Tokyo NF.
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"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm." - Winston Churchill
RE: The Elephant Vanishes : obvert (J) vs Historiker_SqzMyLemon_Canoerebel (A)
Many of those guys look really tough.
Especially S-901 Hikotai's boys.
Japan's good shape amazes me so much. I would like to be in a good situation as yours whenever I reach closing days of 1945.
It looks that over the course of the match you haven't grabbed many points from army losses. May I ask you where else you've farmed points, then? I have always been prone to believe that army loss points and a/c "trading" are the most reliable ways to put a lot of distance between your opponent and the autovictory.
I am starting to believe I'm having a very wrong approach at this regard.
Especially S-901 Hikotai's boys.
Japan's good shape amazes me so much. I would like to be in a good situation as yours whenever I reach closing days of 1945.
It looks that over the course of the match you haven't grabbed many points from army losses. May I ask you where else you've farmed points, then? I have always been prone to believe that army loss points and a/c "trading" are the most reliable ways to put a lot of distance between your opponent and the autovictory.
I am starting to believe I'm having a very wrong approach at this regard.
Francesco
RE: The Elephant Vanishes : obvert (J) vs Historiker_SqzMyLemon_Canoerebel (A)
ORIGINAL: ITAKLinus
Many of those guys look really tough.
Especially S-901 Hikotai's boys.
Japan's good shape amazes me so much. I would like to be in a good situation as yours whenever I reach closing days of 1945.
It looks that over the course of the match you haven't grabbed many points from army losses. May I ask you where else you've farmed points, then? I have always been prone to believe that army loss points and a/c "trading" are the most reliable ways to put a lot of distance between your opponent and the autovictory.
I am starting to believe I'm having a very wrong approach at this regard.
My original opponent broke our HR by moving all of the Chinese remaining in China out to India instead of letting them be killed off. I've managed to hold them off until now but a few just walked through the Himalayas to get to Chengdu.
We traded a lot of slugging in Burma, and I did gain a lot of Allied troop VPs there.
I' not sure why you think airframe attrition is not good to stave off AV. It's the only VP generator I have now, and it's getting me 100-200 VPs every day he Strat bombs now.
Most of the base points in China he's going for now might not be actually big VP turn since they're all out of supply already, and thus probably not registering on the VPs.
"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm." - Winston Churchill