OT: Admiral Kuznutsov smoking more than usual

[fcooke]

And then another 25 years to get any kind of operational scary - thankfully.

[Jorge_Stanbury]

Admiral Kutnutzov found her long lost Brazilian sister [:'(]

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/3 ... ppointment

[geofflambert]

Why don't we buy the Kutsnutsoff and rename it for Senator Joni Ernst?

[geofflambert]

She's the one who's main qualification for being Senator from Iowa was her job castrating hogs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zc8uLuHsNw0

[AW1Steve]

ORIGINAL: geofflambert

Why don't we buy the Kutsnutsoff and rename it for Senator Joni Ernst?

The ship has already been renamed at least 3 times. When she 1st went to sea (back in my day---yeah she's that old [:D]) she was the Tblisi.

[BBfanboy]

ORIGINAL: geofflambert

She's the one who's main qualification for being Senator from Iowa was her job castrating hogs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zc8uLuHsNw0

Well, Congress is kinda neutered right now ...

[Yaab]

So much black smoke. Just rename her to Admiral Kunta Kinte.

[BBfanboy]

ORIGINAL: Yaab

So much black smoke. Just rename her to Admiral Kunta Kinte.

I get the Roots reference, but not what smoke has to do with Kunta Kinte?

[AW1Steve]

Wow. A thread with both partisan political commentary and possible racial content. [X(] [8|] I'm guessing that this thread will most probably be locked down as soon as a responsible adult hears of it. [8|][:(]

[CmdrMctoast2]

With drone technology, under water, on surface, in the Air, In space and Mach 10 plus missile tech showin up (we see) I think Carriers days are numbered, well they are still good for wrangling third world countries for now but drone swarm tech will start eating up what it wants when it wants in the future.
smoke that statement, lol[:D]

[Trugrit]

ORIGINAL: CmdrMctoast2

With drone technology, under water, on surface, in the Air, In space and Mach 10 plus missile tech showin up (we see) I think Carriers days are numbered, well they are still good for wrangling third world countries for now but drone swarm tech will start eating up what it wants when it wants in the future.
smoke that statement, lol[:D]

You must have seen this scary video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-2tpwW0kmU

[AW1Steve]

ORIGINAL: CmdrMctoast2

With drone technology, under water, on surface, in the Air, In space and Mach 10 plus missile tech showin up (we see) I think Carriers days are numbered, well they are still good for wrangling third world countries for now but drone swarm tech will start eating up what it wants when it wants in the future.
smoke that statement, lol[:D]

Sure. And phasers , photo torpedos and disruptor rays too. Billy Mitchell said carriers would be doomed back in the 1930's too. I'm not from Missouri , but you'll have to show me. [:(] And I've heard a great deal of Mach 10 missiles (almost as often as I've heard of flying saucers) but I haven't SEEN one demonstrated. And you would think that if such a weapon existed , someone , somewhere would sink at least an old barge, wouldn't you? And the closest you see is Iran or some other lower echelon power want to be drive around with a mock up in a parade that is probably paper mache. [:D]

[BBfanboy]

ORIGINAL: AW1Steve

ORIGINAL: CmdrMctoast2

With drone technology, under water, on surface, in the Air, In space and Mach 10 plus missile tech showin up (we see) I think Carriers days are numbered, well they are still good for wrangling third world countries for now but drone swarm tech will start eating up what it wants when it wants in the future.
smoke that statement, lol[:D]

Sure. And phasers , photo torpedos and disruptor rays too. Billy Mitchell said carriers would be doomed back in the 1930's too. I'm not from Missouri , but you'll have to show me. [:(] And I've heard a great deal of Mach 10 missiles (almost as often as I've heard of flying saucers) but I haven't SEEN one demonstrated. And you would think that if such a weapon existed , someone , somewhere would sink at least an old barge, wouldn't you? And the closest you see is Iran or some other lower echelon power want to be drive around with a mock up in a parade that is probably paper mache. [:D]

Don't ballistic missile warheads have very high mach numbers on reentry from space? Any country with satellites able to detect ships should be able to fire a missile on an arc into space and diving vertically on the ship target. So far we have Russia, China, India, Japan and potentially North Korea with the technology to put a satellite or two up there.

[geofflambert]

But how many nutz will they kutz off?

[Alfred]

ORIGINAL: AW1Steve

ORIGINAL: CmdrMctoast2

With drone technology, under water, on surface, in the Air, In space and Mach 10 plus missile tech showin up (we see) I think Carriers days are numbered, well they are still good for wrangling third world countries for now but drone swarm tech will start eating up what it wants when it wants in the future.
smoke that statement, lol[:D]

Sure. And phasers , photo torpedos and disruptor rays too. Billy Mitchell said carriers would be doomed back in the 1930's too. I'm not from Missouri , but you'll have to show me. [:(] And I've heard a great deal of Mach 10 missiles (almost as often as I've heard of flying saucers) but I haven't SEEN one demonstrated. And you would think that if such a weapon existed , someone , somewhere would sink at least an old barge, wouldn't you? And the closest you see is Iran or some other lower echelon power want to be drive around with a mock up in a parade that is probably paper mache. [:D]

All weapon systems eventually become obsolete, or at least repurposed and cease to be the premier system they once were.

I'm certain some Egyptian general told Pharaoh that chariots now made foot (infantry) soldiers redundant.
I'm certain some French Duc told the Dauphin that heavily armoured knights would make mince meat of enemy foot (archers) soldiers
I'm certain some industrialist assured the generals their machineguns would defeat all enemy offensive infantry actions
I'm certain Holland assured the admirals his submarine would render all surface ships useless


I have no doubt that in time, the pre-eminence of big 90k ton CVNs will end. They will be repurposed, redesigned. They already have been. Naval air activity has already changed quite dramatically from what it was 50 years ago. Now there is a plethora of helicopter carriers around the world. Air refuelling tankers have reduced one of the prime WWII usage of CV viz the projection of air power in areas which were beyond the range of land based air which, even with drop tanks, still lacked the range.

Just as in time effective counter measures against drones etc will be developed.

Combined arms is not just a tactical concept. It is also a strategic concept.

Alfred

[geofflambert]

ORIGINAL: Alfred

ORIGINAL: AW1Steve

ORIGINAL: CmdrMctoast2

With drone technology, under water, on surface, in the Air, In space and Mach 10 plus missile tech showin up (we see) I think Carriers days are numbered, well they are still good for wrangling third world countries for now but drone swarm tech will start eating up what it wants when it wants in the future.
smoke that statement, lol[:D]

Sure. And phasers , photo torpedos and disruptor rays too. Billy Mitchell said carriers would be doomed back in the 1930's too. I'm not from Missouri , but you'll have to show me. [:(] And I've heard a great deal of Mach 10 missiles (almost as often as I've heard of flying saucers) but I haven't SEEN one demonstrated. And you would think that if such a weapon existed , someone , somewhere would sink at least an old barge, wouldn't you? And the closest you see is Iran or some other lower echelon power want to be drive around with a mock up in a parade that is probably paper mache. [:D]

All weapon systems eventually become obsolete, or at least repurposed and cease to be the premier system they once were.


I'm certain Holland assured the admirals his submarine would render all surface ships useless


Alfred

I'm not certain, but I'm pretty sure the Confederacy didn't have any admirals. Maybe they made Pierre Gustave Toutant de Beauregard and honorary admiral?

My bad, he was a Brit. Never mind.

[CmdrMctoast2]

Its good to back on the forumns from the multi year sebaticle, Was reading about all the fires weve had recently in port as well didn't we just lose a sub to construction fire in the not so distant past?

[Shellshock]

ORIGINAL: geofflambert

I'm not certain, but I'm pretty sure the Confederacy didn't have any admirals. Maybe they made Pierre Gustave Toutant de Beauregard and honorary admiral?

My bad, he was a Brit. Never mind.

Franklin Buchanan was the Confederate admiral in command at the Battle of Mobile Bay in 1864. But then he was one of the few Confederate naval officers who got to command something resembling a fleet. If you can call one decent ironclad and some scrappy gunboats a fleet.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franklin_Buchanan

[Bo Rearguard]

ORIGINAL: geofflambert

Beauregard

My namesake and hero. [8D]

[Mercenary]

Admiral Kuznutsov. I think it's over. it was burned :)