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Turn 2. Sep/Oct 1939. Goals/Objectives. Japan. Manchuria/Korea.

1. Protect captured RP's and ensure shipment to Japanese factories (Korea).

2. Maintain sufficient garrison to prevent Partisans and discourage DOW by USSR (Manchuria).

Unless the Japanese capture of the open city Hengyang generates an entry chit, I don't see any threat that the Soviets will DOW the USSR with only 1 entry chit in the US/Japanese pool. If they did, there would be an 80% chance that the US could never declare war on Japan.

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Turn 2. Sep/Oct 1939. Goals/Objectives. Euro-Axis. CW Convoys.

There are 2 German u-boats in Kiel (5 & 4 movers) and 3 Italian subs in Malta (5, 4 & 4 movers).

My opponent had defended the North Atlantic, which has 10 CW CP's, more strongly than the Bay of Biscay, which has 16 CW CP's. It's storms in both sea areas, which means +1 to axis search rolls and no -1/-2 due to the presence of CW CP's.

Cape St. Vincent (rain) in addition to the Bay of Biscay is also lightly defended. The -1 search roll modifier the axis get due to the CW CP's is canceled by the +1 due to rain. Also, there's an RAF fighter 2 in Gibraltar that would most certainty react to the 0-box if the axis attempt a sub combat.

The axis will attempt sub combats in the Bay of Biscay and Cape St. Vincent. 2 German and 1 Italian sub will be sent to the Bay of Biscay. However, 1 will be in the 2-box and 2 will be in the 1-box. With +1 due to storms and no bonus for CP's, this means that the axis will only have a 10% chance of finding and only with the u-boat in the 2-box. So be it. Even 0.100 hitters connect for a hit 10% of the time.

2 Italian subs (3 & 2 boxes) will be sent to Cape St. Vincent. This gives the Italians a 30% chance of finding with 1 and a 20% chance of finding with both subs.

The Battle of the Atlantic is about persistence and forcing the allies; especially the RN, to devote ships and actions to securing the vital allied shipping lanes.



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Turn 2. Sep/Oct 1939. Goals/Objectives. Italy. Egypt & East Med.

FYI. 4 RN CA's are docked in Port Said.

The Italians have drawn the focus of Wavell's HQ-A, 3 corps and a gun division with slightly less forces. At this time I don't see the CW making a push forces so equally matched. Unless they can break supply to the East Med and flip the Italians.

The Italians have no desire at this point to push further into Egypt and are more than happy to keep this apparent stalemate continuing as long as the CW keeps Wavell and other forces in Egypt, which could have gone to France. To keep up appearances, i.e., as if the Italians plan to push hard towards the canal, the Italians will move 7 CA's to the Eastern Med and attempt a naval combat. Note that the RN has no planes at sea or that can react.

I do hope these aggressive feints by Italy to tie up forces in North Africa doesn't in the end cost Italy too much.

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Turn 2. Nov/Dec 1939. Axis #3. In-Game Communication Log.

Note. {...} = non-communications, "private" AAR axis comments.

[ax] Turn 2. Nov/Dec 1939. Axis #3. No DOW's, no alignments. Japan - combine, Germany - combine, Italy - naval.

[ax] Naval air. None.

[ax] Naval Move. IJN x 2. (1) TRS in Canton to China Sea, loads 6-2 Tokyo MIL and stops in 0-box. (2) TRS in Fukuoka to China Sea, loads 5-3 Osaka MIL and stops in 0-box.

[ax] Euro-Axis. Sub Moves x 2. (1) Bay of Biscay (storms), 1 Ge sub 2-box, 1 Ge & 1 IT sub 1-box. (2) Cape St. Vincent (rain), 1 It sub 3-box, 1 It sub 2-box.

[ax] It RM Moves x 2.
(1) IT Coast. 2 CA's 2-box to 0-box. TRS in Malta loads GAR to 0-box. CA from La Spezia to 4-box. CA Malta to 3-box.
(2) West Med. 7 CA's from Malta to 4-box.

[ax] The Italians will initiate a sub combat in Cape St. Vincent. Do you wish to react with the FTR2 in Gibraltar? If so where? {graphic 01}

[al] Yes, into the 0 box.

[ax] Cape St. Vincent (rain). Italian sub 3-box initiates. RAF Hurricane I in Gibraltar reacts to 0-box. Search. Axis 6, allied 9. Nobody finds.

[ax] Bay of Biscay (storms). No air or air reactions possible.
German sub 2-box initiates.
Search. Axis=9, allied=4. Neither find.

[ax] East Med (rain). Italian fighter 0-box initiates. No air reactions.
Search. Axis=6, allied=3. Only the allies find. {graphic 02}


[al] The CW will fight the Italian 4 box, spending 2 surprise to reduce the damage to the CW.

[ax] RN is up first. Risk is X, 3A's. Instructions?

[al] Okay, X on Barham. We'll see if it survives or not as we'll try to get it to eat an abort or two.

[ax] X risk on Barham = 10, damaged. A risk on Barham = 2. Barham is damaged and aborted. 2 A risks remaining.

[al] Great. Both remaining As on Cornwall, but if it aborts after the first A, put the second on Birmingham.

[al] All aborted ships return to Port Said.

[ax] A risk CA Cornwall = 3, aborted. A risk CA Birmingham = 1, aborted. Well, the RN passed (only) 1 of the 4 risk rolls, but passed the most critical one. [:(]

[ax] RM risk X, D, 2A.
X risk on CA Duca D'Aosta = 10, damaged.

[ax] D risk on CA Baribaldi=7, aborted.
A risk on damaged CA Duca D'Aosta=3, damaged & aborted.
A risk CA Pola=7, 1/2 aborted.

[ax] Thus ends round 1 in the East Med. Italians stay. Assume RN stays?

[al] Correct.

[ax] Round 2. East Med.
No additional air reactions.

[ax] Search. Axis=6, Allied=10. Neither find.
Battle ends in what I would consider a draw.
Though, a draw for the RN against the Italians is really a victory.

[ax] Italian aborts (2 CA's, 1 of which is also damaged) go to Malta.

[ax] RN aborts to Port Said.

[ax] Strategic Bombing. None.

[ax] Ground Strike. Japan x 1.
1 TAC vs Nationalist 3-stack (1st Inf div, 1st inf corps, 20th gar), China[87,140].
D10x3=4, 6, 1. 20th gar (4-1) flipped.

[ax] Rail. Japan x 1 (combine).
4-1 Gar. Tsitsihar, Manchuria to China[74,143].
1 hex southwest of RP.

[ax] Rail. Germany x 1 (combine).
7-3 inf. Warsaw to Frankfurt, Germany.

[ax] Germany Land Moves x 6. 6 ground units in the East moved towards the West.

[ax] IJN 4-4 SNLF Mar occupies Hengyang. USE=5, no chit added.

[ax] Japan 3 land moves (combine). All three used in the south (of China).

[ax] Land Combat. None.

[ax] Air Rebase. Germany x 6.
(1) Ju88A1. Ge[51,41] -> Saarbrucken, Ge.
(2) He 111H. Ge[49,41] -> Dusseldorf, Ge.
(3) Ju 87B Stuka. Ge[48,43] -> Essen, Ge.
(4) Bf 110C F/B. Ge[48,46] -> Cologne, Ge.
(5) Bf 109D-4 F/B. Ge[48,45] -> Ge[49,36].
(6) Ju 87B Stuka. Ge[47,45] -> Ge[50,38].

[ax] Air Rebase. Italy x 1.
CR42. Turin -> It[67,39] (1-hex NW Rome).

[ax] Air Rebase. Japan x 2.
(1) D2A2 (Val) Kaifeng, China -> Ch[81,142] (Umezu's stack).
(2) Ki-51. Kaifeng -> Hangyang, China.

[ax] Axis impulse ended.

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Turn 2. Nov/Dec 1939. Axis #3. East Med. Round 1.

Well, the RN found and the Italians didn't. Given that the combat results went about as well as I could have hoped.

Interestingly, the RN had a chance to isolated the 0-box, sink the Italian supply CP and cut supply to the Italians in Libya/Egypt. But my opponent elected instead to duke it out with the 7 Italian cruisers in the 4-box. I was actually relieved by that decision on his part.

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Turn 2. Nov/Dec 1939. Axis #3. Japan. Southern China.

There may be developing an opportunity to bag some Nationalist and possibly flank them west of Hengyang.

A note of caution to myself. Don't allow Japanese forces in the south to get sucked into the interior of China unless there's an opportunity to inflict substantial damage on the Nationalist.

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Turn 2. Nov/Dec 1939. Axis #3. Japan. Southern China.

A note of caution to myself. Don't allow Japanese forces in the south to get sucked into the interior of Japan unless there's an opportunity to inflict substantial damage on the Nationalist.

Yes, getting lost in the middle of Japan would probably be bad. [;)]

P.S. As the Italians, I would regard that battle as a victory. You damaged a battleship, at the cost of a damaged cruiser. A draw is equal repair cost, and is an Allied victory. This was a 2:1 in favor of you, which is a win.
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Turn 2. Nov/Dec 1939. Axis #3. Japan. Southern China.

A note of caution to myself. Don't allow Japanese forces in the south to get sucked into the interior of Japan unless there's an opportunity to inflict substantial damage on the Nationalist.

Yes, getting lost in the middle of Japan would probably be bad. [;)]

P.S. As the Italians, I would regard that battle as a victory. You damaged a battleship, at the cost of a damaged cruiser. A draw is equal repair cost, and is an Allied victory. This was a 2:1 in favor of you, which is a win.
Yes ... yikes ... meant China. Definitely something Freudian there ... Japanese troops fighting an endless war in China longing to be lost in Japan. [8D]
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Turn 2. Nov/Dec 1939. Allied #5. In-Game Communication Log.

Note. {...} = non-communications, "private" AAR axis comments.

[al] Weather roll is 3 for weather result of 4: rain in the Arctic and North Temperate, fine everywhere else.

[al] Impulses:
- USA pass
- USSR & CW combined
- Fr & Ch land

[al] No port attacks or naval air.

[al] Naval moves: RN task force of 2 CVs, 3 BBs sails from Gibraltar to E Med 3 box.

[al] Naval combats: CW can initiate in Bay of Biscay & Cape St Vincent but won't.

[al] CW initiates naval combat in E Med.

[al] CW has no land-based air to intercept - do you want to fly the Italian FTR from Malta?

[ax] No thank you.

[al] Search rolls are CW 3, Italy 3. CW 3 box and Italian 2 & 4 boxes all find. {graphic 01}

[al] CW chooses naval air combat.

[al] No surprise points for anyone. First up, air combat. The Swordfish CVP flies as a bomber and is automatically cleared through.

[al] Air combat round 1 rolls: Axis 12 (DC), Allied 11 (DC), ending the air combat.

[ax] What were the air-to-air values?

[al] CW had a Gladiator (3 a2a) versus the Italian Gabbiano (0 a2a), so it was +3/-3 Allied.

[ax] Yikes ... Italian Nav got lucky.

[al] Bit embarrassing for the RN carrier aviation boys.

[al] They'll be in for a scolding assuming their carrier survives.

[ax] They're still flying bi-planes for goodness sake! [:D]

[al] Oh, and you'll like the Italian AA fire. (Lowest 1 of 5) {graphic 02}

[ax] Italian AA gunners were personally trained by ll duce himself!

[al] That suppresses the RN bombers.

[al] CW AA fire is 8, 1, 4, 4.

[al] Royal Navy managed to take a situation that heavily favoured them and turn it into... well, we'll see once the damage rolls come down.

[al] Italy gets to apply an abort.

[ax] HMS (CV) Furious.

[al] A on Furious: saving throw is 6 - just low enough to abort her.

[ax] Italians stay.

[al] Swordfish lands on the aborted Furious, Gladiators land on Courageous.

[ax] Need to take a short 5-minute break. My "dogs of war" need to go outside. [:D]

[al] Righty-o.

[al] I'll wait until you get back for the next round of searches, 'cause the Royal Navy's staying.

[ax] Back.

[al] Okay. Second round. I feel safe assuming the FTR in Malta stays put.

[ax] Correct.

[al] Search rolls: both sides roll 9, ending the combat.

[ax] I'll take that. [:)]

[al] Yes, I daresay you will. [:)]

[al] HMS Furious aborts back to Gibraltar.

[al] No ground strikes or strat bombing.

[al] Rail moves:
- France rails Lyons MIL to HQ Billotte's position along Franco-Belgian frontier;
- USSR rails 4-2 art gun from Omsk to HQ Timoshenko's position along Rumanian frontier.

[al] Land moves:
- No USSR moves;
- CW 4-1 GARR from London to Dover;
- CW Manchester MIL from Manchester to coast just east of Coventry;
- CW London MIL from London to Bristol;
- No China moves;
- French XLII Corps moves from Damascus to hex inside Jordan nearest Haifa;
- French VII Corps moves from Paris to along Franco-Belgian frontier;
- French Paris MIL does same.

[al] No land combats or rebases.

[al] Saved game at HQ reorg step for France.

[al] Game sent.

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Turn 2. Nov/Dec 1939. Axis #7. In-Game Communication Log.

[ax] Turn 2. Nov/Dec 1939. Axis #7.
No DOW's. No alignments.
Japan - land, Germany - land, Italy - combine.

[ax] Naval Air. None.

[ax] Naval Move. Italy (combine) x 1.
Italian Coast. CA San Giorgio. 3-box to 1-box.

[ax] Euro-Axis Sub Combat x 2. (1) Cape St. Vincent. (2) Bay of Biscay.

[ax] (1) Cape St. Vincent.
No (additional) air reactions possible.
Search. Axis=2, Allied=9. Axis only (2 subs) find.

[ax] Axis isolate 0-box, which gives them 10 SP's.
Axis use 4 SP's to force sub combat.
Axis have 8 sub vs 6 CP's (3 ships), which gives an initial risk of X, A.
Allies have 2 ASW vs 2 subs, which gives an initial risk of 2 A.

[ax] Axis will use 2 SP's to increase allied risk to X, D, A.
Axis will use 3 of 4 remaining SP's to put X on RN TRS.

[ax] Italians are first up with risk of 2A.
A on Sub 5048 (12-box)=2, aborted.
A on Sub 5046 (3-box)=6, aborted.

[ax] RN risk X, D, A.
3 SP's used to X on TRS=8, damaged.
1 CP sunk, 1 CP aborted, leaving 4 CP's.
No Italian subs left in sea area. Combat over.

[ax] FYI. Remember to check sentry of surviving CP's.
MWiF has a habit of taking them off sentry when there are losses/aborts.

[ax] Italian sub aborts x 2 go to Malta.

[ax] Where does the one CW CP abort go?

[al] Cp to Gibraltar is fine.

[ax] Euro-Axis sub. Bay of Biscay. The Italians initiate combat. Possible allied air reactions.

[ax] Possible. Albacore Belfast -> 0-box. Fairey Plymouth -> 0 or 1-box. Hampden Harwich (extend range) -> 0 or 1-box.

[al] Albacore intercepts.

[ax] Search. Axis=8, Allied=6. Nobody finds.

[ax] The Italian could, but elect not to initiate in the East Med.
The allies aren't afforded the opportunity to try.

[ax] Strategic bombing. Do the allies wish to fly CAP?

[al] No CAP

[ax] Strategic Bombing. Germany x 2. (1) Paris, (2) Lyons.

[ax] (1) 1 plane w/2 factors (modified) vs Paris=8+1=9. French lose 1 PP.

[ax] (2) 1 plane w/1 factor (modified) vs Lyons=9+1=10. French lose 1 PP (2 total).

[ax] Ground Strikes. None.

[ax] Rail.
Japan - none.
Italy x 1. Milan MIL. Milan to Taranto.
Germany x 3.
(1) 7-2 MIL. Berlin to Essen.
(2) 6-3 inf. Pozan to Saarbrucken, Germany.
(3) 5-3 inf. Krakow to Karlsruhe, Germany.

[ax] German land moves. Various moves, mostly moving units from east to west. Nothing of consequence to report.

[ax] Italian land moves (combine) x 2.
(1) East Africa. X inf captures Khartoum, capital of Anglo-Egyptian Sudan.
(2) Garrison on TRS in East Med disembarks to Malta.

[ax] Japanese land moves. Various moves in China.
Nothing surprising I think.

[ax] Japan disembarks 2 MILs in China Sea to Canton.

[ax] Land Combat. None.

[ax] Air Rebase. Germany x 2.
(1) He 112 5-range fighter. Hanover to Ancona, Italy.
(2) He 111 H-3. Dresden to Saarbrucken, Germany.

[ax] Air Rebase. Italy x 1. CR-42 FTR2. Cassino, Italy to Malta.

[ax] Air rebase. Japan. None.

[ax] End of axis impulse #7. Turn sent.


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Turn 2. Nov/Dec 1939. Axis #7. Germany. Strategic Bombing. France.

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Turn 2. Nov/Dec 1939. Axis #7. Italy. East Africa.

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A suggestion, using a little known rule: supply units are always in supply. If you want, you could try getting your supply unit to Libya by marching through the deep dessert, whenever the Italians have a spare land move.

Congratulations on the conquest of Sudan. Now you just have to figure out what to do with it!
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A suggestion, using a little known rule: supply units are always in supply. If you want, you could try getting your supply unit to Libya by marching through the deep dessert, whenever the Italians have a spare land move.
Thanks for the info on supply units. I didn't know. Looks like it's going to be a long march to Libya. However, since it's always in supply it can make progress every land impulse.
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Congratulations on the conquest of Sudan. Now you just have to figure out what to do with it!
I really didn't have anything better to do with the X inf once the Suez was closed. Maybe he'll conquered all of East and Central Africa for Italy?

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Turn 2. Nov/Dec 1939. Axis #3. Japan. Southern China.

A note of caution to myself. Don't allow Japanese forces in the south to get sucked into the interior of Japan unless there's an opportunity to inflict substantial damage on the Nationalist.

Yes, getting lost in the middle of Japan would probably be bad. [;)]

P.S. As the Italians, I would regard that battle as a victory. You damaged a battleship, at the cost of a damaged cruiser. A draw is equal repair cost, and is an Allied victory. This was a 2:1 in favor of you, which is a win.
Yes ... yikes ... meant China. Definitely something Freudian there ... Japanese troops fighting an endless war in China longing to be lost in Japan. [8D]

True. However: it's 1939! Your precious MAR (which you cannot afford to lose) have to be sitting in southern Chinese ports in S/O 1941. So plan your attacks in the south China accordingly. If you elect to go all-out in China in 1940, you might get lucky and conquer the place early 1941. If you however tend to keep those units out of action the whole time, you will likely not get a shot at the conquest of China at all...
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Turn 2. Sep/Oct 1939. Allied #9. In-Game Communication Log.

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[al] Turn ends on a roll of '1'. The die is rolled and it's a 2.

[al] Turn continues, it's Allied impulse 9. Weather roll is 8.

[al] It's Snow in the Arctic and North Temperate - good for moving, bad for combat (unless you're the Finns or the Red Army).

[ax] Snow in arctic and north temperate, rain in the med. So not really that bad.

[al] Rain in the Med and South Monsoon.

[al] Fine in the North Monsoon and South Temperate.

[al] No DoWs or alignments.

[al] Actions:
Land - China
Naval - CW
Combined - France, USSR
Pass - USA

[ax] What's the RN up to now? :)

[al] No port attacks or naval air

[al] CW sails 2 cp from Liverpool to Cape St Vincent

[al] CW sails 1 cp from Liverpool to Bay of Biscay

[al] Okay, a bunch of RN and RAN cruisers are trying to sail through the Eastern Med: Kent, Canberra, Shropshire, and Australia. They're going to go one at a time. I assume you want to try to intercept them?

[ax] Yes. Intercept. Use the weakest CA in the 4-box to intercept.

[al] Okay. I will indicate each result in turn.

[al] Trieste initiates the interception attempt.

- Kent - intercept roll 3, interception succeeds; Kent joins task force in 3 box of E Med.
- Canberra - intercept roll 1, interception succeeds; Canberra joins task force in 3 box of E Med.
- Shropshire - intercept roll 9, interception fails; Shropshire sails to 3 box in Italian Coast.
- Australia - intercept roll 10, interception fails; Australia sails to 3 box in Italian Coast.

[al] Oh, didn't notice she was still organised - Liverpool will sail from Port Said as well. Intercept roll is 1, interception succeeds; Liverpool joins task force in 3 box of E Med.

[ax] I hope these successful intercepts by the RM in the East Med isn't a case of the "dog that caught the car". :)

[al] Well, we'll see, won't we. :)

[al] CW subs sail from Gibraltar to 2 box Italian Coast.

[al] CW can initiate in Bay of Biscay but won't.

[al] CW initiates in Italian Coast. Do you want to fly any aircraft?

[ax] Yes. 1 of the 2 fighters in Malta to 0-box.

[ax] The fighter with 0 TAC value.

[al] Okay. The fighter flies.

[al] CW initates with the sub flotilla but does not commit with it.

[al] Search rolls are CW 6, Italy 2. Italy 4 box finds against CW 3 box with 5 surprise.

[ax] Use 4 to avoid combat.

[al] Combat avoided.

[al] CW initiates in Eastern Med. I feel safe assuming the fighter in Malta stays put since there's already one in the 0 box.

[ax] Correct.

[al] Search rolls are CW 2, Italy 1. 🤨

[ax] Wow ... this is going to be interesting.

[al] Pretty sure Italy has 1 surprise since the Gladiator has 4 range, which is enough to push the CW stack into a higher box for surprise purposes. In any case, it's Italy 2 and 4 box vs. RN 3 box, and it'll be a naval air combat.

[al] Air combat is 3-strength Gladiator vs. 0-strength Gabbiano for CW +3/-3 It.

[ax] I would really like to shoot down that Gladiator. :)

[ax] It's being a major PITA!

[al] Round 1 rolls: Italy 13 (AC), CW 8 (DA). The Italian naval bombers are chased out of the skies of the Eastern Med... to Malta, I presume?

[ax] Malta's good.

[al] With neither side having any bombers, that ends the first round of naval combat. Both sides, I assume, are staying.

[ax] Yes. Italy stays.

[al] Okay. Round 2 search rolls are CW 1, Italy 3. That's going to be RN 3 box versus It 4 box, and CW has 2 surprise points.

[al] It's going to be a surface combat.

[al] Profiles and damage results are:
- Royal Navy 45 attack vs 5 ships (2X)
- Regia Marina 17 attack vs 11 ships (X, D)

[al] I'll boost damage against Italy to 2X, D, A. {graphic 01}

[ax] I thought you might.

[ax] There's a lot of steel flying in the East Med this turn.

[ax] X on CA Pola, X on CA Gorizia, D on Trieste and A on any surviving damaged CA.

[al] X on Pola: saving throw is 5; Pola is sunk.
X on Gorizia: saving throw is 10; Gorizia is damaged.
D on Trieste: saving throw is 4; Trieste is damaged.

[al] Any preference for who gets aborted?

[ax] Goriza.

[al] A on Gorizia: saving throw is 7; Gorizia stays in the sea area.

[al] Okay, on to RN damage.
X on HMS Warspite: saving throw is 9; Warspite is damaged.
D on HMS Warspite (yes I'm tempting fate): saving throw is 4 (tempted fate too far); Warspite is sunk.

[al] Royal Navy is staying, what about the RM?

[ax] RM aborts. All to Malta.

[ax] I know someone on the forum who isn't going to be very happy with you sinking the warspite. :)

[al] She died doing what she loved: laying waste to the enemy. What better way to go down is there for a warship? ;)

[al] At least Churchill has a win to report to the House of Commons - a nice Christmas present.

[ax] Is he still first lord of the admiralty or is he PM yet?

[al] Probably still First Lord. The war at sea hasn't been great, but it hasn't quite risen to a government-toppling debacle.

[al] But there's still one more naval combat to fight, possibly, so who knows? That could change in a moment.

[al] The Axis can initiate a combat in the Bay of Biscay.

[ax] Initiate.

[al] With a NAV already at sea, the CW doesn't send any more aircraft. Axis commit their subs, and the search rolls are...

[al] CW 1, Axis 4

[ax] Both find?

[al] I thought the Axis had enough to find, but they just fell short according to MWiF.

[ax] Isn't there a sub in the 3 box?

[ax] And 16 cw cps?

[al] No, it's in the 2 box.

[ax] Then no find by German sub is correct.

[ax] In snow.

[al] CW 4 box finds and picks Ge subs in 2 box with, by my reckoning, 5 surprise.

[ax] Sounds right.

[al] Hrm. I ought to have sailed a 3-strength cruiser for this. Oh, well.

[al] Surface combat, Ge does no damage because subs have 1 less attack factor in surface combats, and RN damage is boosted to 1D.

[al] D on sub by default: saving throw is 2, and the sub flotilla is damaged.

[al] The CW is, as you might imagine, staying. What about the subs?

[ax] Subs stay and continue the fight

[al] Search rolls are CW 5, Axis 10, ending the combat.

[al] The damaged sub aborts to Kiel and hence to the repair pool.

[al] Do you want to CAP for strat bombing?

[ax] Negative.

[al] Allied raids:
- RAF bombers fly to Berlin; die roll is 6+1 = 7; no effect.
- French bombers fly to Prague; die roll is 5+1 = 6; no effect.
(Apart, perhaps, from damaged housing stock or something like that.)

[al] No ground strikes.

[al] Land Stuff:
- No rail moves;
- USSR 4th Army (6-6 MECH) and at gun detachment adjust positions along the Rumanian frontier;
- KMT HQ Chiang and at gun detatchment advance southeast out of Chihkiang;
- KMT formations in the mountains west of Hengyang withdraw southwest, meeting up with 14th Army advancing out of Kweilin, leaving the disorganised 20th Reserve Army in place.

{see graphic02}

[ax] If you want you're welcome to roll for end of turn .

[al] Will do.

[ax] The French XLII Corps advances to the coast of British Palestine, and is now on the frontier of the Sinai.

[al] No land combats.

[al] Rebases:
- Fairey Battle lnd2 from Plymouth to Bristol.

[al] Turn ends on a roll of 3 or less. End of turn roll is 10.


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Turn 2. Nov/Dec 1939. Axis #11. In-Game Communication Log.

Note. {...} = private AAR comments.

[ax] Turn 2. Nov/Dec 1939. Axis #11. Germany DOW's Holland.

{Now the time to go for it. Looking at the situation I can guarantee the capture of Amsterdam and if my opponents sets up on the RP I have about 80% chance to flip and overrun, which would give me both Amsterdam and Rotterdam. In the case the Dutch corps isn't flipped (20% chance), I can achieve a breakthrough and move across the frozen lake from the Dutch RP to Amsterdam. Again, guaranteed.}

{Looking at the CW situation. No transports at sea. My opponent does have 1 transport in position to pick up and drop off either a weak garrison (4-1) or white print MIL (5-3) if I can only take Amsterdam and the turn continues. There's a 50% chance that the turn will after this impulse}

[ax] USE=5, no chit added.

[ax] The Netherlands aligned to CW (can go back and change if you wish).

[ax] Where do you wish to place the Dutch?

[al] Let's see... it's snow so blitzes work. Let's have:
- INF in Amsterdam
- NEI territorial in Palembang
- trs in Batavia
- 8 cp in Dutch Guyana
- rest of ships in Rotterdam

[ax] Also, I assume you'll want assault for attack on Amsterdam?

[al] You assume correctly.

[ax] Actions. Japan - land, Germany - land, Italy - land.

[ax] No alignments.

[ax] CAP?

[ax] For Strategic Bombing?

[al] There are too many good targets, so no.

[ax] Port Attack. Rotterdam.
Ge He 115c (2 a2s) & Bf 110c (1 a2s)
a2s halved due to snow, so 1.5 rounds to 2.
D10=5.

[ax] Oh, assume you did NOT want subs committed.

[al] Good assumption.

[ax] 8 SP's used to increase Dutch risk from 2 A to X, D, A. (2 a2s vs 4 ships).
CA De Ruyter, CA Java, CA Sumatra, 2 CP's.

[ax] X placed on 2 CP's which sinks both. Where do you wish to put the D?

[al] De Ruyter.

[ax] D on De Ruyter=2, damaged. A on CA Sumatra=4, flipped.

[ax] Naval Air. None.

[ax] Strategic Bombing. Luftwaffe takes another bite of the apple.
He 111 (3 strat) vs Paris. Strat halved due to snow=2.
D10=3+1=4. Luftwaffe bombers come up empty this time.

[ax] Ground Strikes. None.

[ax] Rail. None.

[ax] Italian ETH Terr captures Berbera and thus Italy will conquered British Somaliland.

[ax] Land Combat. Germany x 1. Japan x 2.

[ax] Ground Support.
(1) Germany. Ju 87B to Amsterdam. +5 added.
(2) Japan. Ki-27 F/B to Nanyang. +1 added.
(3) Japan. D3A2(Val) & Ki-51 to China[87,140] (4-1 gar). +5 added.

[ax] {graphic 01} Japan. Land Combat. +13.5. Assault or Blitz?

[al] Assault. Only hope is a low roll and that army takes a few IJA units with it.

[ax] {graphic 02} Assault too? For Nanyang?

[ax] I don't believe the defenders have anywhere to retreat.

[al] They don't. Nanyang is definitely also an assault.

[ax] Land Combat. Japan. China[87,140]. +13.5 Assault.
Fractional=692, no. LCR=10. Result=23. PHEW!!!!!

[al] Juuuust good enough.

[ax] Yes. I debated about how I should split Japanese ground support between this one and the one coming up against Nanyang. In the end I decided to send all the planes that could reach to this one and now I'm glad I did. However, I may not be so glad after we resolved the Nanyang land combat.

[al] Quite.

[ax] Land Combat. Japan. Nanyang, China. +8.143 Assault.
Fractional=562, no. LCR=12. Result=20.
Both defenders destroyed. Japan loses 1 div, the 2nd Inf div.
4 attackers flipped.
USE=7, no chit added.

[ax] Can't complain about that result.

[al] That's not so good for China.

[ax] Land Combat. Germany. Amsterdam. > +21 Assault. It's automatic.

[ax] Air Rebase. Germany. He 112 5-range fighter. Ancona Italy to Sicily[75,40].

[ax] HQ Reorg. None.

[ax] I'll go ahead and pass the turn to you at the end of my impulse.
If it ends then instructions for Germany's 2 pact chits.
If the 1st chit is 3 or 4 it goes in defensive pool; otherwise offensive.
If 1st chit went in defensive then 2nd chit goes in offensive.
Otherwise if it is 3 or 4 it goes in defensive.

{When the axis moving second, I'm actually hoping that the turn will end which will give me Rotterdam by default. If not, then if my opponent moves either the garrison or mil to Rotterdam, I hope to get another impulse this turn or move first next turn to kill off the one unit.}



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Actually, the naval battle was a victory for Italy. Italy lost a cruiser, the CW a battleship. One Italian was damaged. Neither ship is going to be replaced, but that is a win for Italy. If the CW had put the D on something else, getting a damaged BB and a damaged something else, against an Italian cruiser sunk and an Italian cruiser damaged, that would have been a win for the CW. So your opponent single-handedly snatched defeat from the jaws of victory.
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I disagree. The CW reinforced Egypt with their opening moves regardless of Italian decisions. Italy could have done nothing beyond setting the Balbo HQ in Egypt and the same level of CW commitment would have appeared. The Axis have zero chance to break Allied supply in Egypt and inferior ground forces. Raiding the East Med with Cruisers had a low chance to achieve only one thing, a successful surface battle result. But even 2:3 attrition in Italy’s favor is actually a loss over time and the Allies will achieve a 3:2 or better result in the next such battle. Italy needs a ‘Fleet in Being’ for a long time whereas the Allies get a 2nd, huge, fleet added to their side in the middle of the game.

The Allies will pay a small price via a weaker BEF, but without a France First attack heading in, that could likely be only on the M/J 40 turn as Alexander HQ might arrive in J/A 40 and Wavell will probably still be strong in Egypt.
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RE: Axis Only. Ronnie vs Composer99.

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ORIGINAL: brian brian

I disagree. The CW reinforced Egypt with their opening moves regardless of Italian decisions. Italy could have done nothing beyond setting the Balbo HQ in Egypt and the same level of CW commitment would have appeared. The Axis have zero chance to break Allied supply in Egypt and inferior ground forces. Raiding the East Med with Cruisers had a low chance to achieve only one thing, a successful surface battle result. But even 2:3 attrition in Italy’s favor is actually a loss over time and the Allies will achieve a 3:2 or better result in the next such battle. Italy needs a ‘Fleet in Being’ for a long time whereas the Allies get a 2nd, huge, fleet added to their side in the middle of the game.

The Allies will pay a small price via a weaker BEF, but without a France First attack heading in, that could likely be only on the M/J 40 turn as Alexander HQ might arrive in J/A 40 and Wavell will probably still be strong in Egypt.

The Euroaxis are roughly fighting 1-3 against the Royal Navy. So for every cruiser the Italians lose, they need to kill 3 CW cruisers to call a battle result a draw. This battle has ended in a phyrric victory for Italy...

Also: those ships use oil, something which is always in short supply for the Axis.

Now, if there had been a CW (or French) TRS in the sea area, I would have attacked. The opportunity to destroy one of those is to good to pass on. Otherwise, I stay in port...
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