Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues

[stilesw]

but just to be clear is this going to only be an optional sensor that one must always add manually to a unit

Yes, completely optional not a default. The scenario designer will have to add it to a facility just as any facility could be modified to have any new sensor. Assigning this sensor as the default to units in the database would involve creating many alternate units [i.e. "Building(Small) - Generic" would have to have a "Building(Small with Observer) - Generic" clone]. This would result in a lot of unnecessary entries when it makes more sense to leave the default as "no eyeball" and up to the designer to add the sensor if he or she wishes.

-WS

[14yellow14]

Great database update, thanks!!

[stilesw]

Complete listing of DB3K items can be found here: fb.asp?m=4754318

-WS

[KLAB]

Much obliged ref DB3K 481 additions.

[Scar79]

Added Sukhoi S-70 UCAV with AA and AS (navel & land) loadouts.

Just checked its specs.

Its RCS is 45833 times greater than RCS of X-47B. Really?! [X(]
Engine: 2x AL-41FM1 Turbofan. Seriously, 2x?! [;)]

[BDukes]

Thank you so much for db update today.

Found one error will looking. Facility 3237 Talash seems to have SA-2 Site mounts, sensors and magazines.

Hope know I appreciate big effort you make every update and no expect perfection. You give alot so no worries on this.

Thank!

[Tookatee]

OK, that's understandable under that context however when I said "by default" I meant only adding the sensor onto the entries for the affected units I mentioned, not to literally make it the new Mk.1 Eyeball. Those units I mentioned have other sensors/weapons that require a trained human to operate (such as a spotlight or weapon) or require a human manning the structure to fulfill it's purpose (eg. a watch tower or guard post.)

For example, here's an entry that both: relies on a human to fulfill its purpose and has a human operated sensor and weapon (yet no eyes to operate said equipment.)

[Scar79]

ORIGINAL: Dimitris

IIRC the designation was re-used for the Kh-50 tactical cruise missile, which has supposedly entered LRIP.

If you have updated / more precise information please share it on the DB3K thread. Thanks!

https://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=4754250#

TBH, i never met such an info about Kh-50 re-designation in to Kh-65. [&:]


Kh-65 is just an old conventional derivative of Kh-55.

[Anzu]

Thank you for adding the #3186 Gabriel V for the Finnish Hamina-class FAC. There seems however to be some wrong info on both the loadout (which seems to be a direct copy of the Israeli Sa'ar 72).

The loadout should, according to open sources, be:

Sensors/EW
1 x Kongsberg ST2400 VDS
1 x CEROS 200 Tracker (9LV CMS Mk.4), like on the RCN Halifax-class #1898
1 x TRS-3D Baseline D

-4 x Gabriel V (which also should have 200+ NM range, not 28 NM, even if there is not very much open source info about that)
-BAe Bofors 40 mm Mk 4 with 3P-ammo
-2 x Tp451 (#1595), to be upgraded to the SAAB Lightweight Torpedo (Tp 47) by 2023
-8 x Umkhonto Mk.2 (#2770)
-SAAB Trackfire RWS with 40 mm HK GMG
-2 x 12,7/50 MG
-2 x MASS


Not allowed to post links, but add world wide web at the start:
navalnews. com/naval-news/2019/12/finnish-navy-lifts-veil-on-its-future-anti-ship-missile-the-gabriel-v/
baesystems. com/en/product/40mk4-naval-gun
kongsberg. com/maritime/about-us/news-and-media/news-archive/2018/finnish-defence-forces-choose-kongsberg-naval-sonars-for-sq2000-mid-life/

[KLAB]

I took the liberty of attaching a link ref Gabriel V.
The fact it won in competitions against big hitters like the NSM and RBS-15 Mk3 both of which are 200km class weapons with land attack potential is a good indicator that Gabriel V is in the same ballpark.
Cheers for considering
K
https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/20 ... iel-vquote]
ORIGINAL: Anzu

Thank you for adding the #3186 Gabriel V for the Finnish Hamina-class FAC. There seems however to be some wrong info on both the loadout (which seems to be a direct copy of the Israeli Sa'ar 72).

The loadout should, according to open sources, be:

Sensors/EW
1 x Kongsberg ST2400 VDS
1 x CEROS 200 Tracker (9LV CMS Mk.4), like on the RCN Halifax-class #1898
1 x TRS-3D Baseline D

-4 x Gabriel V (which also should have 200+ NM (More likely 200km?)range, not 28 NM, even if there is not very much open source info about that)
https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/20 ... -gabriel-v
-BAe Bofors 40 mm Mk 4 with 3P-ammo
-2 x Tp451 (#1595), to be upgraded to the SAAB Lightweight Torpedo (Tp 47) by 2023
-8 x Umkhonto Mk.2 (#2770)
-SAAB Trackfire RWS with 40 mm HK GMG
-2 x 12,7/50 MG
-2 x MASS


Not allowed to post links, but add world wide web at the start:
navalnews. com/naval-news/2019/12/finnish-navy-lifts-veil-on-its-future-anti-ship-missile-the-gabriel-v/
baesystems. com/en/product/40mk4-naval-gun
kongsberg. com/maritime/about-us/news-and-media/news-archive/2018/finnish-defence-forces-choose-kongsberg-naval-sonars-for-sq2000-mid-life/
[/quote]

[FTBSS]

The SM-6 ERAM Blk 1A The surface attack capable version is no longer available with any loadout in the database,

[KC45]

ORIGINAL: Tookatee

The Japanese #345 F-15J, #3384 F-15DJ, #3378 F-2B, and #346 F-2A are missing the "Helmet-Mounted-Sight" property. As apart of receiving the AAM-5 missile, an HMD was included in their upgrades package to facilitate off-boresight shots with the missile.

F-15J pilot with HMD




Sources: https://www.mod.go.jp/e/publ/w_paper/pd ... 2_Sec4.pdf , https://thaimilitaryandasianregion.word ... 15j-japan/ , and https://weaponsystems.net/system/217-Mitsubishi+AAM-5

no reference reports that F-2A/B have HMD. They don't even have AAM-5 for Fighter Squadrons, but only for test units.

[Tookatee]

If that is the case then that simply exposes another error in the database as the #3378 F-2B and #346 F-2A have AAM-5 loadouts, thank you for pointing that out.

[serjames]

It may have been added in yesterday's update, but if not, please can you add the now in-service Sky Sabre system? (Land Ceptor)

#BlatantWikiCopyIncoming

Land
On the land domain, CAMM is known as Land Ceptor by the British Army and the whole land-based air defence system is known as Sky Sabre.[25] This application has over three-times the range of its predecessor Rapier, it is able to intercept the most challenging targets in all-weather conditions[26]

Current Operators
United Kingdom
Royal Navy - Sea Ceptor was officially declared "In Service" with the Royal Navy in May 2018, and is currently equipped on some of Britain's Type 23 fleet, including HMS Argyll.

Future operators
Brazil
Brazilian Navy - CAMM selected to equip new Tamandaré class frigates.[18]
Brazilian Marine Corps: AV-MMA, a CAMM variant, will equip an anti-aircraft version of the Astros II MLRS.[31]
Chile
Chilean Navy - Selected to replace Sea Wolf on the current Type 23 frigates [32]
Italy
Italian Army - CAMM-ER selected to replace Skyguard (Aspide missiles) batteries with PCMI/X-TAR 3D
Italian Air Force - CAMM-ER selected to replace SPADA (Aspide missiles) batteries with MAADS/Kronos LND
Italian Navy - CAMM-ER to replace Aster 15 missiles.
New Zealand
Royal New Zealand Navy - Selected for ANZAC frigate upgrade.[16]

United Kingdom
British Army - Sky Sabre selected to replace Rapier.[33]
Royal Navy - Sea Ceptor selected to replace Sea Wolf on the current Type 23 frigates and fitted to the Type 26 frigates entering service from 2026.[34][35]


https://des.mod.uk/british-army-land-ceptor-firings/

https://www.mbda-systems.com/press-rele ... -unveiled/

https://www.mbda-systems.com/product/camm/


Note the ER variant below. Not sure of the service state of this / perhaps it's a hypothetical version. As I'm sure it will end up being standard if it offers greater range


https://www.mbda-systems.com/product/camm-er/

Thanks Chaps

[CommanderBabyBear]

Is it possible to add the Indian Astra missile as a future weapon? Both the current and Mk2 version please.

It currently has a range of 80–110 km (50–68 mi) and has been tested on the Su-30MKI

It has midcourse guidance and RF seeker based terminal guidance which allows the missile to destroy targets with greater accuracy.

The Mk2 version will have an estimated range of 160km.

Sadly won't let me post links. I can provide if required

[BDukes]

Hellos

Please adds Mig-21MF Bangladesh (1973-1990) whenever you feel like.

Tweet with pictures (2 Good)

https://twitter.com/StefanKnippsch3/sta ... 4173133829

Sipri data say 14 second hand Mig-21MF delivered from USSR in 1973. Got AA-2 Missile as well (probablies standard MIG-21 loadouts).

Out of service by 1990 when replaced by F-7's.

http://www.mig-21.de/english/inservice.htm#bangladesh

Thank you Waynes!

Bill

[BDukes]

Turkish ASELPOD in service

Ok look like ASELAN build ASELPOD to replace US imaging pods on F-16's and F-4. Pakistan buy too for JF-17.

Aselan page Aselpod

https://www.aselsan.com.tr/en/capabilit ... ing-system

Aselan data sheet

https://aselsan.com.tr/ASELPOD_Advanced ... d_3281.pdf

Movie with IOC

http://www.f-16.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=28342

https://www.janes.com/article/81080/pre ... ing-es18d5

https://sadfor.savtera.org/index.php?topic=1185.0

Pakistans data

https://quwa.org/2016/06/23/aselsan-sel ... -pakistan/

Picture on JF-17

https://twitter.com/RupprechtDeino/stat ... 1771533317

Thank!

[BDukes]

ORIGINAL: BDukes

Pohang Export

Ok South Korea Export Po-hang corvettes all over place after retires

Add BRP Conrado Yap (PS-39)Phillipine Navy. Ex PCC-762 Chunju #141 in DB IOC 2019

https://www.janes.com/article/90598/phi ... vette-home

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pohang-class_corvette

Add HQ-18, HQ-20 Vietnam IOC 2019 Ex. PCC-761 and PCC-765 #141 in DB.

At least HQ-20 now have 2 quad mount SS-N-25 missiles installed.

https://defense-studies.blogspot.com/20 ... kh-35.html

https://i.redd.it/nkgiqd9xusw31.jpg

Egyptian Navy got one too. ENS Shbab Misr 2018. #141 in DB. Hull number is 1000

https://navaltoday.com/2017/10/26/egypt ... uth-korea/
https://www.indiannavy.nic.in/content/v ... ship-kochi

Thank!

Hi. Just to add to this. Here is picture of Vietnamese HQ-20. Note 2 Quad SS-N-25 Odd they like red decks still.

https://twitter.com/AnnQuann/status/1221138728002809856

https://twitter.com/AnnQuann/status/1220390939656515584

[BDukes]

Vietnamese Navy Kilo Update (#518)

Look like Kilo use Test-71 Torpedo vs. 53-65 currently in loadout

https://twitter.com/AnnQuann/status/1218958353587568640

[Anzu]

Some more updates to the Finnish OOB (I still do not have link posting rights, but if needed, ask and I will direct you to the info):

1. The Finnish NH90 Helicopters (aircraft 2354) use the 7.62 mm M134D Minigun (weapon 1807) as a door gun. The shooter also has got night vision goggles.


2. Since a few years back the three Finnish Learjet 35A/S (aircraft 2168) are equipped for maritime surveillance, with:
-1 x Galileo Seaspray 5000E AESA 360 degree maritime surveillance radar. Also purchased for Australian CL-604 Challenger
-2 x Vinten 95 oblique photography cameras
-1 x Vertical survey camera
-Radar Warning and ECM/ELINT equipment
-Vertical IR scanner

In addition the picture in the current database is of a Royal Danish Air force F-16.


3. Would it be possible to add the air craft of the Finnish Border Guards to the database? In war time they are subordinated to the military and also in peace time exercise with the Army and Navy.

The equpment consist of:

2 x Dornier 228 (used ingame by Thailand as aircraft 2131, but with slightly different equipment)
-Galileo Seaspray 5000E AESA 360 degree maritime surveillance radar. Also purchased for Australian CL-604 Challenger
-Star Safire III (sensor 4958) EO/IR with laser illuminator
-SLAR
-IR/UV Scanner
-Sat
-Video camera

4 x Augusta Bell 412 (more or less the same setup as the Indonesian #4094)
-Generic weather radar
-FLIR
-Night vision goggles

5 x Super Puma H215 (the same air frame as Swedish Navy #4523)
-Generic surface search radar updated 2016
-FLIR
-Night vision goggles

4 x Agusta Westland AW119 Ke Koala (which does not seem to be included in the database at all)
-Night vision goggles