Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues

[BDukes]

Please adds Vietnamese Amphibs

Add HQ-501 (ex US LST 938) 1975-

https://twitter.com/AnnQuann/status/1217846675508584448

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_s ... ry_(Large)

Add Polnochny B (HQ-511->513) x3 According to Janes Fighting Ship 1989 first received in 1979. Same as other Poly B in DB.

https://defense-studies.blogspot.com/20 ... rains.html

2 Hùng Vương Class (HQ-521->522) x2 IOC 2009

Stats

http://www.navypedia.org/ships/vietnam/vie_ls_hq521.htm

https://defense-studies.blogspot.com/20 ... ships.html

https://twitter.com/AnnQuann/status/1194669825659822080

Thank you!

Bill

[BDukes]

Please add Fateh-313 Missiles. These are updated of Fateh 110 with at least more range. 500 km

These are what used against US bases in Iraq [:@]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Iran ... es_in_Iraq
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fateh-313
https://defense-update.com/20150822_fateh313.html

I'd give at least same CEP status as weapon #3022. They hit what aimed at.


Thank!

[BDukes]

Please Add US Marine F-35C (2021)

Looks like first squadron got first aircrafts and will be second F-35C squardon (Navy and USMC) to carrier deploys.

https://www.defense-aerospace.com/artic ... corps.html

https://news.usni.org/2019/04/04/marine ... -buys-slow

I would clone #3495 as 2021 seems like a IOC sensible.

Thank

[Anzu]

The Finnish Navy is also completely missing several ships from the database, including the flag ship between 1979 and 2013, the minelayer FNS Pohjanmaa. I will try to make a list asap.

[DetlefKroeze]

The 67N6 Gamma-D (facility 3218) and the 67N6E Gamma-DE (facility 3219) are not listed as radars, when it seems that they should be.

[stilesw]

Found one error will looking. Facility 3237 Talash seems to have SA-2 Site mounts, sensors and magazines.

Bill,
Logged for fix.
-WS

[Febundld]

Could you update entry for Heroj class submarines (Yugoslavia)
standard displacement 614t not 1170t
full displacement 705t not 1370t
crew 28 not 55
torpedo tubes533mm 4 not 6
Length 50,4m not 64m
Max depth 210m not 160m

[Fido81]

Thank you very much for adding an SSM Bn equipped with the SM-62A Snark to the game! Somehow the missile, operational only between 1959 and 1961, has found its way into DB3000 as a hypothetical unit and not CWDB (which I think might be more appropriate given its service history).
It seems the Eastern Test Range isn't the only Snark-infested body around (https://www.airforcemag.com/article/1204snark/).

[fire-fox]

posting but carnt see this not already been stated though has not changed in the last few patches
DB3K
#718 AIM-120C-7 AMRAAM P3I.3 showing the MIM Hawk SAM descriptions info

[Anzu]

Here are are the first missing Finnish ships from the databases that are easily copied (as all info are used in other in game navies):

2 x Riga-class frigates (ship #96), 02 Hämeenmaa and 03 Uusimaa, from 1964 to 1978. Uusimaa was scrapped for spare parts in 1979 while Hämeenmaa was rebuilt to a minelayer before being scrapped in 1985. They were equipped with:

Weapons (1964 to 1974, both ships)
-3 x 100mm/56 single (with weapon #2410 and #1548 ammo)
-1 x 533mm Tripple TT (with 3 x weapon #2187 ammo)
-2 x 37mm/63 Twin DP (with weapon #1553 ammo)
-2 x 25/80 Twin (with weapon #1367 ammo)
-2 x Mk 11 Hedgehog ASW Mortars (with weapon #204 ammo)

Weapons (1975 to 1978, both ships):
-3 x 100mm/56 single (with weapon #2410 and #1548 ammo)
-1 x 533mm Tripple TT (with 3 x weapon #2187 ammo)
-2 x 40mm/60 Mk3 single (with weapon #782 ammo)
-1 x AK-230 30mm/65 Twin (with weapon #186 ammo)
-4 x Depth Charge rack (with 12 x weapon #1815 ammo)

Weapons (1979 to 1985, only one ship):
-3 x 100mm/56 single (with weapon #2410 and #1548 ammo)
-2 x 40mm/60 Mk3 single (with weapon #782 ammo)
-1 x AK-230 30mm/65 Twin (with weapon #186 ammo)
+ mine rails


Sensors (all versions):
-1 x Buck Toe [GAS-572 Pegas 2] Hull sonar, sensor #1364
-1 x Slim Net [Fut-N] Radar, sensor #1566
-1 x Sun Visor [Radar] GFCR, sensor #3026
-1 x Don 2 Navigation Radar, sensor #2354
-1 x Wasp Head [Visual Director], sensor #3833

[CV60]

ORIGINAL: fire-fox

posting but carnt see this not already been stated though has not changed in the last few patches
DB3K
#718 AIM-120C-7 AMRAAM P3I.3 showing the MIM Hawk SAM descriptions info

posting but carnt see this not already been stated though has not changed in the last few patches
DB3K
#718 AIM-120C-7 AMRAAM P3I.3 showing the MIM Hawk SAM descriptions info

Thanks. It has been ruthlessly eliminated.

[stilesw]

Could you update entry for Heroj class submarines (Yugoslavia)
standard displacement 614t not 1170t
full displacement 705t not 1370t
crew 28 not 55
torpedo tubes533mm 4 not 6
Length 50,4m not 64m
Max depth 210m not 160m

Logged.
-WS

[stilesw]

Please Add US Marine F-35C (2021)

Logged.
-WS

[Anzu]

Another missing Finnish ship, the minelayer, training ship and Navy flagship FNS 01 Pohjanmaa, active 1979 to 2013.

General data:
Cathegory: Surface Combatant
Type: ML - Minelayer
Damage points: unknown, but she was a similar but slightly bigger version of the Hämeenmaa-class (#2139), so about 300
Length: 78,6 m
Beam: 11,2 m
Draft: 3,3 m
Empty displacement: 1,000 tons
Standard displacement: 1,100 tons
Full displacement: 1,450 tons
Crew: 80
Max sea state: 6 or 7
Troop capacity: 70 as a training ship and during Operation Atlanta
Cargo capacity:
OODA Cycle: Probaby similar to the Pansio class (#876) or Helsinki class (#1297), both surface combatants without any air defence missiles
Missile defence: 2 or 3 Harpoon / SLAM / Maverick equipvalents. No air defence missiles, but bigger and sturdier ships than the previously mentioned.
Pier / Dock / Davit Size: Very Large Pier
Belt Armor: None
Bulkhead Armor: None
Deck Armor: None
Engineering Armor: None
Bridge Armor: None
CIC Armor: None
Rudder Armor: None

Sensors / EW:
1x DA.05 [RAWS-3] Radar (sensor #1188)
1x 9GA208 Radar (sensor #716)
1x 9LV200 Mk2 [Radar] (sensor #3341)
1x 9LV200 Mk2 [TV Camera] (sensor #3650)
1x 9LV200 Mk2 [IR] (sensor #3651)
1x 9LV200 Mk2 [Laser Rangefinder] (sensor #3654)
1x SS304 Spira -- Norway (sensor #338)
1x K/SLQ-200(V)K Sonata [ECM] -- Argo Phoenix mod, AR-700A (sensor #2182)
1x K/SLQ-200(V)K Sonata [ESM] -- Argo Phoenix mod, AR-700A (sensor #2184)
1x Mk 1 Eyball

Mounts / Stores / Weapons (from 1979 to 1996)
-1x 120mm/46 Bofors [TAK120] (mount #221), with 39x 120mm/46 Bofors GP Burst [4 rnds] (weapon #171), directed by 9GA208 and local control
-2x 40mm/60 Mk3 Single Bofors (mount #944), with 42x 40mm/60 Mk3 Single Bofors Burst [2 rnds] (weapon #782), 40mm/60 Mk3 Single Bofors -- 2x Mounts (magazine #61), directed by 9LV200 Mk2 [Radar], 9LV200 Mk2 [TV Camera], 9LV200 Mk2 [IR], 9LV200 Mk2 [Laser Rangefinder], local control
-2x 23mm Twin (mount #1408), with 23mm Twin Burst [20 rnds] (weapon #389), 23mm Twin -- 2x Mounts (magazine #59), local control
-2x 12.7mm/50 MG -- Facility/Ship, No Anti-Air Capability (mount #561), 10x 12.7mm/50 MG Burst [10 rnds] -- Facility/Ship, No Anti-Air Capability (weapon #1695), 12.7mm/50 MG -- 2x Mounts (magazine #761), local control
-2x Depth Charge Rack [12 DC] (nount #200), 12x Depth Charge [Generic] (weapon #1815)
-4x mine rails for 150 mines of different types incl:
*Generic Mine [Bottom, Simple Magnetic Fuze] (weapon #632)
*Generic Mine [Moored, Contact Fuze] (weapon #633),


Mounts / Stores / Weapons (from 1998 to 2013)
-1x 57mm/70 Bofors Mk1 -- 1967 (mount #454), 0+20 57mm/70 Bofors Mk1 HCER Burst [4 rnds] (weapon #1437), 10+12x 57mm/70 Bofors Mk1 HE Burst [4 rnds] (Weapon #1438), directed by 9LV200 Mk2 [Radar], 9LV200 Mk2 [TV Camera], 9LV200 Mk2 [IR], 9LV200 Mk2 [Laser Rangefinder]
-1x 40mm/70 m/48 Single Bofors (mount #1792), 15x 40mm/70 m/48 Single Bofors Burst [4 rnds] (weapon #2006), directed by 9LV200 Mk2 [Radar], 9LV200 Mk2 [TV Camera], 9LV200 Mk2 [IR], 9LV200 Mk2 [Laser Rangefinder], local control
-2x 23mm Twin (mount #1408), with 23mm Twin Burst [20 rnds] (weapon #389), 23mm Twin -- 2x Mounts (magazine #59), local control
-2x 12.7mm/50 MG -- Facility/Ship, No Anti-Air Capability (mount #561), 10x 12.7mm/50 MG Burst [10 rnds] -- Facility/Ship, No Anti-Air Capability (weapon #1695), 12.7mm/50 MG -- 2x Mounts (magazine #761), local control
-2x Depth Charge Rack [12 DC] (nount #200), 12x Depth Charge [Generic] (weapon #1815)
-4x mine rails for 150 mines of different types incl:
*Generic Mine [Moored, Contact Fuze] (weapon #633),
*Generic Mine [Bottom, Total-Field Magnetometer Fuze] (weapon #2461)
*Stonefish Mine [Bottom, Total-Field Magnetometer Fuze, Passive Acoustic, Pressure] -- -UK Export (weapon #3405)

Propulsion:
2x Wärtsilä-Vasa 16V22 diesels, max speed 19 kn

Creep Throttle: 5 kn, 0,9 kg per minute
Cruise Throttle: 12 kn, 1 kg per minute
Full Throttle: 15 kn, 1,89 kg per minute
Flank Throttle: 19 kn, 3,75 kg per minute

[FTBSS]

Noted that the new HAWC weapon available in the database travels at 1600 NM/hr as this is a hyper-sonic weapon why is the speed closer to mach 2 than mach5+ required to meet the definition of hyper-sonic. I also was surprised by the relatively short range of 130 NM. In the publicly available speculation both the figures I see in game are way off what I have seen online, where did the team get the data used for the specs used in game?

[KC45]

ORIGINAL: FTBSS

Noted that the new HAWC weapon available in the database travels at 1600 NM/hr as this is a hyper-sonic weapon why is the speed closer to mach 2 than mach5+ required to meet the definition of hyper-sonic. I also was surprised by the relatively short range of 130 NM. In the publicly available speculation both the figures I see in game are way off what I have seen online, where did the team get the data used for the specs used in game?

HAWC weapon

https://www.airforcemag.com/Lockheed-Ma ... -Contract/
I guess this is the one. At mid 2018, Devs could not get much detailed information.

[FTBSS]

ORIGINAL: KC45

ORIGINAL: FTBSS

Noted that the new HAWC weapon available in the database travels at 1600 NM/hr as this is a hyper-sonic weapon why is the speed closer to mach 2 than mach5+ required to meet the definition of hyper-sonic. I also was surprised by the relatively short range of 130 NM. In the publicly available speculation both the figures I see in game are way off what I have seen online, where did the team get the data used for the specs used in game?

HAWC weapon

https://www.airforcemag.com/Lockheed-Ma ... -Contract/
I guess this is the one. At mid 2018, Devs could not get much detailed information.

I have found more detailed ones than that article but none have range or speed a couple mention mach 20 for weapon systems (not directly for HAWC) and Range between 500-2500 miles. So that is why i wonder why they used such a low speed relative to what a hypersonic weapon is qualified at Mach 5+ and such a short range without any details. I mean at Mach 2 as used its not even Hypersonic as the name implies.

[boogabooga]

I think at least some B-52 variants should be able to carry Mark 60 CAPTORs. There is a picture of one being prepared for that here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_60_CAPTOR

[Tookatee]

The Yakovlev Pchela-1 UAV, Pchela-1K UAV, their Mobile Ground Control Post, and their launching vehicles are missing from the database. The Pchela-1 is a Russian UAV that has: an endurance of two hours, a 32hp 2-cylinder 2-stroke gasoline engine pushing a shrouded three bladed propeller, a 60 kilometer range, a wingspan of 3.25 meters, a length of 2.78 meters, a height of 1.1 meters, a takeoff/landing distance of 0 meters (as it uses a rocket assisted catapult to take off and is normally recovered via parachute, I imagine the value would be similar to what's present on the BQM-74's in the database), a weight of about 138 kilograms, a flight envelope of 100-3000 meters with a minimum speed of 64.7948 knots (the conversion from 120 km/h), a cruising speed of 75.594 knots (a conversion from 140 km/h), and a maximum speed of 97.1922 knots (the conversion from 180 km/h). Its sensors consist of a daytime only IR+TV camera that is also a laser designator, and has an official IOC of 1997 (however it was used operationally in Chechnya in 1995 and was fully developed by the end of 1991.)

The Pchela-1K is an upgraded variant that entered service in 2009 with a new gyro-stabilized LLLTV+FLIR sensor ball, in addition to a new endurance limit of 3.5 hours, a range of 100 km, and a maximum altitude of 3,500 meters.

The BTR-D variant of the launch vehicle was designated the: NPDU "Sterkh". As for their Comms/Datalink values, those would be a: datalink that is connected at all times to a Mobile Ground Control Post (a modified Ural truck capable of controlling only two UAVs at a time) and a GLONASS link for navigation (with a 30 meter CEP.)

Image of the Pchela-1 on its BTR-D launching vehicle


Image of the Pchela-1K on a GAZ-66 launching vehicle, when in this configuration the system is called the Stroi-PD.


A rendering of the battlespace the Stroi-P configuration of the Pchela UAV is envisioned to participate in as a spotter drone for artillery, also note the infield control center on the back of a Ural truck of which is capable of controlling a maximum of only two UAVs at once.


Sources: https://odin.tradoc.army.mil/mediawiki/ ... icle_(UAV) (the United States' military's OE Data Integration Network report on the UAVs), http://www.yak.ru/phprusearch/ (manuacturer's website), http://www.deagel.com/Support-Aircraft/ ... 80001.aspx , http://www.isodarco.it/courses/famagust ... usta17.pdf , http://www.dror-aero.com/link/uav/compl ... drones.pdf , and https://www.flightglobal.com/yakovlev-c ... 03.article

[De Savage]

It seems Gabriel V missile #3648 range is wrong. Command gives anti-surface range 2-28 nm. According to Finnish Navy (Merivoimat) published data range is 200+ km. According to Merivoimat missile can be used against land targets too (as was previous Mk15)

https://merivoimat.fi/artikkeli/-/asset ... -gabriel-5

Gabriel V will be new Finnish anti-ship missile for new Pohjanmaa-class and upraged Hamina-class. Earlier anti-surface missile was Rb 15M with 110 nm range so surely Finnish navy will not pick up missile that have only 28 nm range.

More info: https://missilethreat.csis.org/missile/gabriel/

The Mk 5 is the latest known Gabriel variant, and is also called the ‘Advanced Surface Attack Missile’ (ASAM). It is believed to have entered service in 2007. This missile is reportedly deployed on the Israeli Navy’s Eilat Saar 5 corvettes. It has estimated range of 200-400 km. 8

An additional report in 2009 claimed that another variant of the Mk 5 was in development called the Advanced Naval Attack Missile. This version is to be ship-launched and have an active radar seeker and a two-way datalink with a range of 150 km. 9

The missile is said to be optimized with more advanced seeker technology to operate in cluttered or congested littoral environments.

https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/ ... land-25811

Here is a picture of upgraded Hamina-class Tornio 81, coming to service 2020 with torpedoes and Gabriel V.

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Also could you please add towed VDS sonar array to older Rauma-class #2372 and also for Hamina-class #3186 and #1879. The sonar suite includes a Simrad Subsea Toadfish active high-frequency search and attack sonar, and a Sonac/PTA towed array sonar. These are the main ASW ships for Finnish navy. Witnenessed the towed array when I visited Rauma-class 2018.

https://www.naval-technology.com/projects/haminaclass/