Moderators: wdolson, MOD_War-in-the-Pacific-Admirals-Edition
ORIGINAL: rustysi
ORIGINAL: Scott_USN
Were those B26 Marauders bombing?
Midway launched its bombers when the incoming raid was detected. IIRC it consisted of, 6-TBF's, 4-B26's, and the rest I forget. They did launch a number of B-17's as well.
; Julia Child
ORIGINAL: rustysi
ORIGINAL: Anachro
ORIGINAL: Canoerebel
I haven't seen the movie, but my 25-year-old son saw it last week. He doesn't know enough WWII history to realize (or really, to care) that the movie does or doesn't portray the role of the Navy fighters correctly or which class of bombers did what. That didn't matter to him. What mattered was that, in his word, the CGI was awful. He says the movie is a major dud.
Given that I am closer in age to your son (hey, I'm 30!) and at the risk of sounding like one of those simpletons that just cares about "purty things" and graphics, I will have to agree with your son. The atrocious quality of the CGI very much distracted me from the other parts of the movie. At times, it felt like a B-list movie, though one with a big budget. This is why I said that even with all its historical warts I somewhat preferred the '76 movie: I wasn't constantly distracted by obviously fake visuals.
Uh, another one.[:D] You too, get off my lawn.[:'(]
Seriously though, you think that with all the money they spend on these things the could come up with good graphics.
; Julia Child
ORIGINAL: rustysi
There were Wildcats escorting
Not from Midway.
shot down to 5 B5N and 1 A6M lost
ORIGINAL: Anachro
ORIGINAL: Canoerebel
I haven't seen the movie, but my 25-year-old son saw it last week. He doesn't know enough WWII history to realize (or really, to care) that the movie does or doesn't portray the role of the Navy fighters correctly or which class of bombers did what. That didn't matter to him. What mattered was that, in his word, the CGI was awful. He says the movie is a major dud.
Given that I am closer in age to your son (hey, I'm 30!) and at the risk of sounding like one of those simpletons that just cares about "purty things" and graphics, I will have to agree with your son. The atrocious quality of the CGI very much distracted me from the other parts of the movie. At times, it felt like a B-list movie, though one with a big budget. This is why I said that even with all its historical warts I somewhat preferred the '76 movie: I wasn't constantly distracted by obviously fake visuals.
Also, there is a near-miss Kamikaze attack on Enterprise thwarted by a tail gunner on deck, that whole sequence is BS, though I suppose that's Hollywood.
ORIGINAL: spence
Also, there is a near-miss Kamikaze attack on Enterprise thwarted by a tail gunner on deck, that whole sequence is BS, though I suppose that's Hollywood.
As a pure Hollywood BS sort of thing, the sequence is unbelievable EXCEPT that it actually happened pretty much as shown.
ORIGINAL: Q-Ball
ORIGINAL: spence
Also, there is a near-miss Kamikaze attack on Enterprise thwarted by a tail gunner on deck, that whole sequence is BS, though I suppose that's Hollywood.
As a pure Hollywood BS sort of thing, the sequence is unbelievable EXCEPT that it actually happened pretty much as shown.
Really? Didn't know that.....so that one gets a pass!
The "Canyons of Roi" sequence still really bugs me though
ORIGINAL: spence
shot down to 5 B5N and 1 A6M lost
The planes lost by the Japanese in their strike on Midway may have been more significant than is realized since the Midway fighters happened to have concentrated against the Hiryu bombers. When it came to striking back at the Americans after the dive bombers struck the KB Hiryu was only able to put up 10 torpedo bombers and one of those was a refugee from Kaga (IIRC)
Interesting the only torpedo hit was from a PBY on a oil tanker at 1AM.
Wiki so not my knowledge.
ORIGINAL: spence
Also, there is a near-miss Kamikaze attack on Enterprise thwarted by a tail gunner on deck, that whole sequence is BS, though I suppose that's Hollywood.
As a pure Hollywood BS sort of thing, the sequence is unbelievable EXCEPT that it actually happened pretty much as shown.
ORIGINAL: Scott_USN
The biggest lost was the air crews that would never be replaced with the same caliber and experience. Not to mention seasoned Admirals going down with their ships, ridiculous.
ORIGINAL: rustysi
Interesting the only torpedo hit was from a PBY on a oil tanker at 1AM.
Wiki so not my knowledge.
Yeah, that happened the 'night' before when the PBY spotted some 'support group' of the raid. Kinda made the whole 'suspense' thing moot. All they had to do was find the KB that they now knew was there the next morning. Of course not a small point.[:D]
BTW, the torp was a dud.[8|]
; Julia ChildORIGINAL: Q-Ball
ORIGINAL: spence
Also, there is a near-miss Kamikaze attack on Enterprise thwarted by a tail gunner on deck, that whole sequence is BS, though I suppose that's Hollywood.
As a pure Hollywood BS sort of thing, the sequence is unbelievable EXCEPT that it actually happened pretty much as shown.
Really? Didn't know that.....so that one gets a pass!
The "Canyons of Roi" sequence still really bugs me though
ORIGINAL: rustysi
Interesting the only torpedo hit was from a PBY on a oil tanker at 1AM.
Wiki so not my knowledge.
Yeah, that happened the 'night' before when the PBY spotted some 'support group' of the raid. Kinda made the whole 'suspense' thing moot. All they had to do was find the KB that they now knew was there the next morning. Of course not a small point.[:D]
BTW, the torp was a dud.[8|]
