Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues

[anlgzl]

Hi,

Do you have any plan to add "ANKA-AKSUNGUR" MALE UAV TO DB3K for Turkish Air Force

https://www.janes.com/article/87973/tur ... evelopment
https://www.tusas.com/en/product/aksung ... al-vehicle
https://www.tusas.com/uploads/2020/01/a ... ehicle.PDF

Thanks in advance

[anlgzl]

ORIGINAL: x2oop

Turkish Anka-B drone lacks combat loadouts. Should have ability to carry 4 MAM-L guided bombs

With an increased payload capacity, the ANKA-B SIHA can carry 2 UMTAS-L ATGMs, 4 CIRIT missiles, 4 MAM-L or 8 MAM-C missiles in a single sortie.

Quote from:
https://www.monch.com/mpg/news/air/3356-anka-dev.html

Other articles:
https://quwa.org/2017/04/30/tai-success ... uav-mam-l/
https://www.savunmasanayist.com/cirit-v ... r-geliyor/

Hi,

you can also check the document below

https://www.tusas.com/uploads/2019/12/a ... -flyer.pdf

thanks in advance

[stilesw]

Could use a US National Guard - Armored Plt (M48A5 MBTx4) 1975-1989
And the US Army M901 ITV

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-WS

[Sharana]

Copy paste request from Steam as the user doesn't have account with 10 posts for the links:
https://steamcommunity.com/app/1076160/ ... 482572423/

A.400M Atlas (2015) #1403
This is currently the only version of the A.400M for Germany and it already has AAR capability. In reality the A.400M in German Service did not have AAR capabilities untill 2019, when it got certified for this task after several tests. I would suggest to remove AAR capabilities from this unit and create a second A.400M for Germany with this capability dated 2019.
Source: https://www.janes.com/article/89850/luf ... eployments

EF2000 Eurofighter Typhoon / EF2000 Eurofighter Typhoon Two-Seater (2019) #3227 / #3634
This unit is already equipped with Meteor missiles, while in reality the German Air Force (GAF) is still waiting for these missiles to be implemented, which is supposed to happen later in 2020. I would suggest to just change the date of these two units to 2020 and it should be fine.
Source: https://esut.de/2019/12/meldungen/ruest ... er-meteor/ (German)

Eurofighter Typhoons (2015 and 2019; single and two seater) #1583 / #3633 / #3227 / #3634
The GBU-16 has never been in German Service and hence should be removed from these four units.
Source: None, as there have never been GBU-16s in GAF service.

Eurofighter Typhoons (2015; single and two seater) #1583 / #3633
The first GBU-48's for the GAF got delivered on 18th December 2017, so it should be removed from the 2015 Eurofighters (#1583). Maybe a new Eurofighter unit for 2018 could be created with GBU-48 and AMRAAM in addition to the 2020 Meteor equipped Eurofighter proposed above.
Source: https://augengeradeaus.net/2017/12/die- ... rofighter/ (German)

All German Tornado units
Neither the BL.755 nor the AGM-65 has ever been in service with German Tornados and should be removed from all German Tornado units. The AGM-65 has only been in use with the F-4 Phantom II in German service, but not with the Tornado and German Tornados used the MW-1 instead of the british BL.755.
Source: None, as AGM-65 or BL.755 equipped GAF Tornados have never existed.

Lynx MK88A
The Sea Skua missile has been taken out of service by the German Navy in 2014. I suggest to create a new unit of the German Navy Lynx dated 2014 to take this in account. This unit then could also be armed with the M3M 12.7mm machine gun that got implemented in all German Navy Lynx in 2009.
Sources: [1] https://twitter.com/CdrDeuNavalAir/stat ... 8854781959 (German)
[2] https://augengeradeaus.net/2017/01/seal ... ent-259017 (German)

[Tookatee]

On the topic of BL755, Germany was actually a customer for the weapon system and it was used on the Marineflieger Tornados since their inception until Germany's accession to the Convention on Cluster Munitions, where they were removed from service and destroyed in 2010 after beginning the process in 2006. The MW-1 is an entirely separate dispenser system that was developed more than a decade after the BL755 (a cluster bomb) entered service. So yes they did exist and were used and that's why they're in the database.

Sources: https://www.forecastinternational.com/a ... RC_ID=1448, https://books.google.com/books?id=G4ZjT ... ny&f=false , and https://www.forecastinternational.com/a ... _RECNO=331

[14yellow14]

With the recent tensions in Syria I think it would be interesting to add some units to design scenarios based on these recent events.

On the Turkish side:

ANKA S UAV
https://www.airforce-technology.com/pro ... l-vehicle/

T122 MLRS
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T-122_Sakarya


Leopard 2A4

M60T Sabra

Turkish SF Platoon OKK



Thanks!

[x2oop]

Regarding Turkish drones, and Syrian scenario I found out that only Turkish UCAV currently available in DB, Bayraktar TB2 has very low flight endurance.
Currently, after takeoff it is able to fly for less than ~3hours. With this flight time it is barely able to reach Southern Turkish borders from for example Incirlik Air base.

This drone is advertised as a long-endurnace UCAV, with 24 hours of flight time. It might be less with payload, but probably still much more than 3 hours.

The Bayraktar UAV System has a cruising speed of 70 knots with an operational flight altitude of 24.000 feet, 24 hours of flight time and a communication range of 150 km and has a 12-m wing span, 650-kg maximum take-off weight and a 55-kg payload capacity.

https://www.ssb.gov.tr/Website/contentL ... 5&LangID=2

Thanks in advance if you find time to take a look at this.

[anlgzl]

ORIGINAL: 14yellow14

With the recent tensions in Syria I think it would be interesting to add some units to design scenarios based on these recent events.

On the Turkish side:

ANKA S UAV
https://www.airforce-technology.com/pro ... l-vehicle/

T122 MLRS
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T-122_Sakarya


Leopard 2A4

M60T Sabra

Turkish SF Platoon OKK



Thanks!

hi,

according to DB3k 481 there are 3 ANKA variants

4380 Anka-A -- Turkey (Air Force), 2016
4738 Anka-A ELINT Mod -- Turkey (Air Force), 2018 ---> it can be renamed "ANKA-I"
4750 Anka-B -- Turkey (Navy), 2019, 12x

ANKA-S UCAV should be add to DB3K for Turkish Air Force with a/g weapon loadout

https://www.tusas.com/uploads/2019/12/a ... -flyer.pdf

Thanks in advance

[anlgzl]

Hi,

Is it possible to add MI-26T2 for Algerian Air Force.

https://www.flightglobal.com/helicopter ... 05.article

Thanks in advance

[anlgzl]

Hi,

Is it possible to add Eurocopter AS-532UL Cougar to DB3K for Turkish Army. Turkish Army and Turkish Air Force has this helicopter in their inventory.

https://www.airliners.net/photo/Turkey- ... A/GfPqs%3D
https://www.airliners.net/photo/Turkey- ... A/GfPqs%3D

[KLAB]

#3191 - MRK Nanuchka III [Pr.1234.1 Ovod] (Russia [1992-] - 2019)
Please consider changing the twin SA-N-4A SAM launcher to the SA-N-4B and upgrade the radar:

This is the recently refitted upgraded Nanuchka III:

Currently it has the launcher;
#850 - SA-N-4a Gecko [9M33]

Please consider replacing the SA-N-4A with the SA-N-4B Mount:
1x SA-N-4b Gecko [9K33M Osa-2M, Zif-122] Twin Rail using
#1422 - SA-N-4b Gecko [9M33M3]

SAN-4B has been the default missile for SA-N-4 OSA launchers on the Nanuchka for some time and it seems unlikely that the revamped OVOD coming out of a refit in 2019 would still be using the original missile from 1974?

https://tass.com/defense/1081216 "Furthermore, the Titanit radar will be replaced with the KRS-27.”

The entry still has the Titanit BAND STAND #5335 radar and #5338 passive elements but the KRS-27 referred to in all the press releases equates to upgraded BAND STAND (MINERAL) DB3K entry #5333 radar and #5337 passive elements which has longer range and would make sense given the much longer range of the Kh-35.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_corvette_Smerch
https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/20 ... siles-gun/
https://tass.com/defense/1081216

Thanks for consideration.
K

[anlgzl]

Hi,

Is it possible to add HISAR-A & HISAR-O air defence missile systems to DB3K for Turkish Army.

https://www.janes.com/article/87357/tur ... isar-a-sam
https://www.janes.com/article/37448/rok ... -programme
https://www.aselsan.com.tr/4a38351c-381 ... b2839f.pdf
https://www.aselsan.com.tr/fb0b5f57-90f ... 43730e.pdf
https://www.roketsan.com.tr/wp-content/ ... Flayer.pdf
https://www.roketsan.com.tr/wp-content/ ... -email.pdf

Thanks in advance

[stilesw]

This is the recently refitted upgraded Nanuchka III:

Thanks for the additional information. The new Nanuchka III has already been logged for inclusion but this new data is helpful.

-WS

[stilesw]

Is it possible to add HISAR-A & HISAR-O air defence missile systems to DB3K for Turkish Army.

Under consideration, thanks.

-WS

[stilesw]

Is it possible to add MI-26T2 for Algerian Air Force.

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-WS

[stilesw]

Bayraktar TB2 has very low flight endurance.

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-WS

[KLAB]

Addenda requests please in FOUR parts for important Russian surface ship and newest ASW helicopter - (I noticed when trying to arm up the KA-27M):

#3174 - SKR Admiral Flota Kasatonov [Pr.2235.0] (Russia [1992-] - 2019)

Helicopter magazine doesn't include the #3644 - APR-3M only the APR-3.

#4327 - Ka-27M Helix A (Russia [1992-] - 2017) - KA-27M is the most likely on board helicopter for the Pr2235.0.

Load out #22060 has a glitch in that the title says:

#22060 APR-3, RGB-16MK (ASW Patrol) but includes 1x #3644 - APR-3M and 0 #482 - APR-3.

Effectively this means the KA-27M on board hasn't got reloads unless you add magazine items.

#3644 - APR-3M Weapon record #8881 1/1 is the only record for the APR-3M so it could do with some corresponding magazine size records i.e 18/18 and 0/100000.

Thanks as always.
K

[stilesw]

Addenda requests please in FOUR parts for important Russian surface ship and newest ASW helicopter

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-WS

[stilesw]

Also, can the RCS value of J-20 and J-31 be changed back to values as they are in the older version of DB3000? (i.e. v477)
The current RCS value of J-20 and J-31 is "horribly" high. I got some evidence to show, but I am not allowed to post links...

Just checked my old DB3K files and all the RCS signatures are the same as the current ones for the J-20 & J-31.

-WS

[14yellow14]

Hi! Could you add those units:


Italian Navy NH90 MITT tactical transport helicopter
The MH-90 MITT variant adds to the NFH specialised NH90 combining tactical transport and maritime features to perform amphibious support and special forces operations.
https://www.navyrecognition.com/index.p ... opter.html



The Spanish Navy has also acquired this variant but it will not be received for a few years. SH-3D replacement

Spain will also acquire seven new “MSPT” naval variants of the NH90. This will address an urgent requirement to begin replacing the Spanish navy’s Sikorsky SH-3D Sea Kings, as well as streamline the number of helicopter types being operated by the armed forces.
https://www.ainonline.com/aviation-news ... e-chinooks


Spanish Navy SH-60F (ex-US Navy)

For now Spanish Navy is operating second hand SH-60F without ASW equipment for naval tactical transport role:

https://fly-news.es/defensa-industria/d ... -espanola/




I'm sorry if I'm annoying, but whenever I find a little something missing, even if it's not important, I think it's useful to complete the great database you have built.

Thank you very much for your work!