Ironman insanity - Evoken(A) vs Guctony(Ironman Japan)

[Bif1961]

The Greater the Challenge the greater the victory. I am wondering what Tojo gave Hitler to get most of his major surface units? Maybe a sub load of Geishas?

[Cheesesteak]

ORIGINAL: Bif1961

The Greater the Challenge the greater the victory. I am wondering what Tojo gave Hitler to get most of his major surface units? Maybe a sub load of Geishas?

Captured Indiana Jones?

[Evoken]

Back with update , still working on the turn.
Submarine patrol patterns are almost done , excited about working torpedos [:D]


and Pearl Harbor tripwire line in case KB decides to stop by for a visit

[Bif1961]

Good luck on your death by a million clicks on the 7 Dec and 8 Dec 41 turn

[Evoken]

Back with an update , got the combat replay and we are off to a good start
[&o]
Major events;

Morning Air attack on Clark Field , at 79,76

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 40

Allied aircraft
P-35A x 18
P-40B Warhawk x 19
P-40E Warhawk x 8

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 4 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-35A: 10 destroyed
P-40B Warhawk: 2 destroyed
P-40E Warhawk: 1 destroyed


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Morning Air attack on Clark Field , at 79,76

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 93 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 32 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G3M2 Nell x 36
G4M1 Betty x 50

Allied aircraft
P-40B Warhawk x 6
P-40E Warhawk x 4

Japanese aircraft losses
G3M2 Nell: 1 damaged
G4M1 Betty: 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
P-40E Warhawk: 4 damaged
P-40E Warhawk: 2 destroyed on ground
PBY-4 Catalina: 1 destroyed on ground
B-17D Fortress: 1 destroyed on ground

Airbase hits 22
Airbase supply hits 6
Runway hits 46

Morning Air attack on 88th Chinese Corps, at 90,56 , near Hangchow

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
B5M1 Mabel x 63

No Japanese losses

Allied ground losses:
340 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 24 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 16 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled


Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Dadjangas at 79,95

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 12 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 13
B5N1 Kate x 10

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
AVD William B. Preston, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk

Ground combat at Lingayen (79,75)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 132 troops, 14 guns, 6 vehicles, Assault Value = 131

Defending force 13466 troops, 94 guns, 174 vehicles, Assault Value = 141

Allied ground losses:
8 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 2 (1 destroyed, 1 disabled)

Assaulting units:
21st PA Infantry Division
86th PS Coastal Artillery Battalion

Defending units:
21st Ind. Engineer Regiment
Tanaka Det
3rd Ind. Engineer Regiment
Kanno Det /1
56th Const Engineer Regiment
8th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
2nd Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
15th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
14th Army /1
9th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
3rd Engineer Construction Battalion
9th Field AF Construction Battalion
40th JAAF AF Bn
28th JAAF AF Bn /1

Landings at Miri , Batan Island , Lingayen and Aparri. No Kota Bharu landing or mersing gambit yet


SIGINT
SIG INT REPORT FOR Dec 07, 41

Radio transmissions detected at 134,102.
Radio transmissions detected at 68,66.
42nd Air Defense AA Regiment is located at Masan(102,54).
27112 men are based at Hanoi (68,56).
Radio transmissions detected at 135,102.
1/48th Division is loaded on a Japanese xAP moving to Pescadores.
6/98th Division is loaded on a Yusen A class AK moving to Takao.
22nd Division is located at Hangchow(90,55).
6th Ind.Mixed Brigade is located at Chengting(92,40).
Radio transmissions detected at 64,75.
7/98th Division is planning for an attack on Miri.
Radio transmissions detected at Shanghai (92,55).
Radio transmissions detected at Lingayen (79,75).
3/II./124th Infantry Battalion is loaded on a Ansyu-C Cargo class xAK moving to Cam Ranh Bay.
2/146th Infantry Regiment is loaded on a Hakone Maru class xAP moving to Davao.
2/7th Tank Regiment is planning for an attack on Lingayen.
Radio transmissions detected at Pescadores (84,63).
1st Ind. Engineer Regiment is located at Babeldaob(90,97).
Radio transmissions detected at 62,74.
2/56th Infantry Regiment is planning for an attack on Kota Bharu.

Combat report attached to this post , if anyone wants to see operations report i can upload it too

[Bif1961]

off to a great start with an old S-boat putting a trop in the Akagi. The S-boat Mk-10 torp warheads are smaller then the Mk-14 torps in the fleet boats but their dude rate isn't at the abysmal rate of the Mk-14 either.

[Evoken]

ORIGINAL: Bif1961

off to a great start with an old S-boat putting a trop in the Akagi. The S-boat Mk-10 torp warheads are smaller then the Mk-14 torps in the fleet boats but their dude rate isn't at the abysmal rate of the Mk-14 either.

Yeap , looked like Akagi Detached from that task force , same task force got attacked by another sub and akagi wasnt in the list. We are playing with Reliable US torps so Mk14's wont be going dud as much i am really looking forward to it [:D]

[CaptBeefheart]

Is that it, or are you building suspense for the rest of the Dec 7 combat report?

Cheers,
CB

[Evoken]

Those are the major events , combat report attached to it KB didnt show up anywhere and some invasions are missing , i expect early DEI takeover or OZ invasion at this point [:(]

[PaxMondo]

IJ gets a ton more of everything in the base Ironman scenario. It will be interesting to see if the IJ can manage the supply issues of supporting all of these forces. He is going to have to be VERY bold as he needs to greatly expand his economy (HI+LI+Resources) to keep his forces in supply. The game designer counted on the AI losing a great deal of these extra assets, a human player won't lose nearly as many so the supply requirement isn't going to be balanced without some huge gains.

On the flip side you will have to remember:
his ships won't run out of ammo, yours will
some of his ships have insane EXP, they will cut you up.
Betty/Nells will hit about 85% of the time.
You will be facing 2:1 in the air or worse the entire war (or until he runs out of supply)

If I were your opponent:
1. seal china.
2. Take CK by july/Aug 42
3. Take Calcutta by 5/42 and seal Burma.
4. go after SOV and take it out by 5/43 OR take Karachi and seal India from CAPE/Aden.
5. distract allies by taking Alaska and threatening Canada/Seattle/Portland.

Calcutta+SOV or Calcutta+Karachi will give him +2M supply that he will desperately need. And he has the forces that he should be able to do it. Not sure he can pull off both. Either way, CONUS has a serious threat in mid-43.

Glad I'm not playing the allies in this one. Good Luck!!!

[8D]

[Evoken]

ORIGINAL: PaxMondo

IJ gets a ton more of everything in the base Ironman scenario. It will be interesting to see if the IJ can manage the supply issues of supporting all of these forces. He is going to have to be VERY bold as he needs to greatly expand his economy (HI+LI+Resources) to keep his forces in supply. The game designer counted on the AI losing a great deal of these extra assets, a human player won't lose nearly as many so the supply requirement isn't going to be balanced without some huge gains.

On the flip side you will have to remember:
his ships won't run out of ammo, yours will
some of his ships have insane EXP, they will cut you up.
Betty/Nells will hit about 85% of the time.
You will be facing 2:1 in the air or worse the entire war (or until he runs out of supply)

If I were your opponent:
1. seal china.
2. Take CK by july/Aug 42
3. Take Calcutta by 5/42 and seal Burma.
4. go after SOV and take it out by 5/43 OR take Karachi and seal India from CAPE/Aden.
5. distract allies by taking Alaska and threatening Canada/Seattle/Portland.

Calcutta+SOV or Calcutta+Karachi will give him +2M supply that he will desperately need. And he has the forces that he should be able to do it. Not sure he can pull off both. Either way, CONUS has a serious threat in mid-43.

Glad I'm not playing the allies in this one. Good Luck!!!

[8D]

Thanks for giving me some insight Pax , what do you mean with his ships wont run out of ammo ?

Hopefully i will be able to starve his economy with effective use of submarines otherwise this will be a short playthrough [:D]

[Evoken]

Got the turn back , KB Spotted [X(]

[Q-Ball]

KB is there, with other TFs it looks like, and there's no landing at Kota Bharu?

He's going for Mersing or Palembang. You better hotfoot (or hot-rail?) everyone in Malaya down to Singers pronto. Or at least start packing. But that Brigade in Kota needs to get out of there.

It's a strange place to use KB right now. You can accomplish those landings without it. This is good news for you. I would send your CVs toward the Coral Sea, and if he is tardy getting to Rabaul, hit that landing.

[Evoken]

Correct , no landings at kota bharu. I left both Kota and Mersing forces on combat mode so i didnt get caught in strat move mode or movement mode , now i am pulling them back. I wanted to evac Aussie brigades so i didnt evac the AP's at Singapore but i guess thats not happening anymore [:D]

If he came to mersing without CV's Bi-planes would have made it very costly , but is it worth to do Mersing gambit if its not on day 1 as most of my troops are already packed gonna start strat moving this turn , i guess he might still cut off a couple brigades. We shall see

I am flooding the area with subs at the moment might catch a few CV's , i spent most of my Political power on better submarine skippers first turn lets see if thats gonna pay-off

[inqistor]

Oh come on! Don't you know, that there will be resource convoys through this strait between Kyushu, and Honshu? Why there are no submarines there?

Japan starts with some extra CVs in that one. I'm not sure their starting position but it is probably possible to create TWO KBs.

[Evoken]

ORIGINAL: inqistor

Oh come on! Don't you know, that there will be resource convoys through this strait between Kyushu, and Honshu? Why there are no submarines there?

Japan starts with some extra CVs in that one. I'm not sure their starting position but it is probably possible to create TWO KBs.

Do you mean between Honshu and Hokkaido ? Because i got quite a bit of subs around Kyushu , sub positions will be adjusted i didnt wanna endanger too many subs crossing mine filled narrow passages

[Evoken]

There is a CVE or CVL in the same spot with KB , looks like he is looking to form a Japanese Deathstar early.

Task force to the SE of Davao is another CV task force with 94 fighters , 24 bombers and 9 auxilary. I find the fighter to bomber ratio a bit weird could it be fog of war ?

[inqistor]

ORIGINAL: Evoken

ORIGINAL: inqistor

Oh come on! Don't you know, that there will be resource convoys through this strait between Kyushu, and Honshu? Why there are no submarines there?

Japan starts with some extra CVs in that one. I'm not sure their starting position but it is probably possible to create TWO KBs.

Do you mean between Honshu and Hokkaido ? Because i got quite a bit of subs around Kyushu , sub positions will be adjusted i didnt wanna endanger too many subs crossing mine filled narrow passages

Ah yeah, sorry. 118, 53 have to be crossed, if he wants to unload in northern Japan. Also, Hachinohe is frequently used for eastern Hokkaido transport. And don't forget Sakhalin.
I barely use southern ports in Japan (Mainly Yokohama, and whatever shows up at Osaka). But also consider Yellow Sea (Shanghai, and Port Arthur). Think, where he would want to reload guns, after bombardment. Remember about approaches to oil centers.
I would say your patrol routes are too extended, no reason for Japan to send ships north of Fusan, for example.

[PaxMondo]

ORIGINAL: Evoken

ORIGINAL: PaxMondo

IJ gets a ton more of everything in the base Ironman scenario. It will be interesting to see if the IJ can manage the supply issues of supporting all of these forces. He is going to have to be VERY bold as he needs to greatly expand his economy (HI+LI+Resources) to keep his forces in supply. The game designer counted on the AI losing a great deal of these extra assets, a human player won't lose nearly as many so the supply requirement isn't going to be balanced without some huge gains.

On the flip side you will have to remember:
his ships won't run out of ammo, yours will
some of his ships have insane EXP, they will cut you up.
Betty/Nells will hit about 85% of the time.
You will be facing 2:1 in the air or worse the entire war (or until he runs out of supply)

If I were your opponent:
1. seal china.
2. Take CK by july/Aug 42
3. Take Calcutta by 5/42 and seal Burma.
4. go after SOV and take it out by 5/43 OR take Karachi and seal India from CAPE/Aden.
5. distract allies by taking Alaska and threatening Canada/Seattle/Portland.

Calcutta+SOV or Calcutta+Karachi will give him +2M supply that he will desperately need. And he has the forces that he should be able to do it. Not sure he can pull off both. Either way, CONUS has a serious threat in mid-43.

Glad I'm not playing the allies in this one. Good Luck!!!

[8D]

Thanks for giving me some insight Pax , what do you mean with his ships wont run out of ammo ?

Hopefully i will be able to starve his economy with effective use of submarines otherwise this will be a short playthrough [:D]

SO, the AI has trouble with re-arming ships … getting them to the right size port. Ironman addresses this by making the ship ammo loadout MUCH bigger for the AI.

[PaxMondo]

ORIGINAL: Evoken

ORIGINAL: PaxMondo

IJ gets a ton more of everything in the base Ironman scenario. It will be interesting to see if the IJ can manage the supply issues of supporting all of these forces. He is going to have to be VERY bold as he needs to greatly expand his economy (HI+LI+Resources) to keep his forces in supply. The game designer counted on the AI losing a great deal of these extra assets, a human player won't lose nearly as many so the supply requirement isn't going to be balanced without some huge gains.

On the flip side you will have to remember:
his ships won't run out of ammo, yours will
some of his ships have insane EXP, they will cut you up.
Betty/Nells will hit about 85% of the time.
You will be facing 2:1 in the air or worse the entire war (or until he runs out of supply)

If I were your opponent:
1. seal china.
2. Take CK by july/Aug 42
3. Take Calcutta by 5/42 and seal Burma.
4. go after SOV and take it out by 5/43 OR take Karachi and seal India from CAPE/Aden.
5. distract allies by taking Alaska and threatening Canada/Seattle/Portland.

Calcutta+SOV or Calcutta+Karachi will give him +2M supply that he will desperately need. And he has the forces that he should be able to do it. Not sure he can pull off both. Either way, CONUS has a serious threat in mid-43.

Glad I'm not playing the allies in this one. Good Luck!!!

[8D]

Thanks for giving me some insight Pax , what do you mean with his ships wont run out of ammo ?

Hopefully i will be able to starve his economy with effective use of submarines otherwise this will be a short playthrough [:D]

Subs: You don't really have enough of them in '42 to do that and until you get your major ASW boost in Q3Y43, his SC/E's are able to find/fight your subs very effectively. By crossing convoys only Fusan/Fukuoka and Ominato/Hakodate it is pretty easy to create kill zones. They are short runs, and he can put up very dense NavSearch/ASW to keep your subs DL high. Then his ASW TF's can get hits …