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RE: Mar.42: mini-KB vs British carriers

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To attack more task forces if you were to make many small ones and scatter them.
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when I see the battle report:

why is he splitting his squadrons? what is the gain on doing so? I mean vs resizing

If I recall correctly, splitting squadrons gives the components new unit IDs that are lower than existing units, causing their missions to be resolved earlier in the combat phase than those existing units. Could he have plans to sweep somewhere?
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Yes, the split squadrons will attack first. Useful for fighter sweeps. But if he splits his bombers it is so he can attack more task forces.
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RE: Mar.42: mini-KB vs British carriers

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I was thinking he maybe did it so that little Taiyo have a few squadrons? he added it to the mini KB; this escort carrier starts without any squadron

I mean the KB squadrons were destroyed, and it would take ~20 days to bring back, and more to get them ready for combat
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Also, I was not expecting to see CV Junyo on that TF; he obviously accelerated it
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Would the squadrons of an accelerated carrier come together with it or would they arrive on their normal schedule?


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The air units are also accelerated. I just checked my game.
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Mar18.42: naval battle of Pt Moresby

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Key news from this turn was a naval battle at Pt Moresby, but before going in details...

another carrier torpedoed, CV Indomitable ate 2, should survive, if it can reach Colombo or Cape Town; I need to decide if it is riskier to get into a possible Japanese ambush near Colombo vs moving at slow speed, for many turns, until reaching Cape Town


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Sub attack near Batavia at 46,98

Japanese Ships
SS I-155, hits 2

Allied Ships
CV Indomitable, Torpedo hits 2
CL Colombo
DD Nestor
DD Norman
DD Nizam

SS I-155 launches 6 torpedoes at CV Indomitable
DD Norman fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Nizam fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Norman fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Norman fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Norman fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Norman attacking submerged sub ....
Escort abandons search for sub

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It should be able to make Cape Town. Is there a safe spot to put it to slightly dewater it?
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Moving into the battle; as I mentioned before, I decided to reinforce Pt Moresby, a week or so ago, I succeeded with the 1st convoy, which was mostly supply + 1 regiment from Americal

two turns ago, I send the 2nd convoy, mainly another Americal regiment + engineers. In both the 1st and 2nd convoys, the Japanese actively tried, but failed, to sink the TFs with LBAs, in both instances we had bloody battles that killed a lot of P-40s, Zeros and Netties

By the end of day of this last convoy, there were no more LBAs attacking, and I thought it was going to return home uneventful... however he had different planes

So he attacked with 2 Aoba cruisers and 9 DDs; this pitted against my Australian-American-New Zealand-French TF of 2 CAs, 4 CLs, 4 DDs

In his email, he mentioned he was very unhappy with the results; but I think they make sense; I had more guns, more powerful guns, we had a tie on the night phase, he probably had poor luck with his torpedo attacks.
He was defeated, in a very long fight, at the day phase, with one, probably 2 CAs lost. I lost 1 DD and probably one CL

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Mar 18, 42
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Night Time Surface Combat, near Port Moresby at 98,130, Range 7,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CA Aoba, Shell hits 7, on fire
CA Kinugasa, Shell hits 2
DD Fubuki
DD Usugumo
DD Shirayuki
DD Hatsuyuki
DD Ayanami, Shell hits 1
DD Uzuki, Shell hits 2, on fire
DD Kikuzuki
DD Yuzuki
DD Kiku, Shell hits 1

Allied Ships
CA Australia, Shell hits 1, on fire
CA Canberra
CL Leander
CL Achilles, Shell hits 1
CL Perth
CL Concord, Shell hits 1
DD Farragut, Shell hits 1
DD Stuart
DD Voyager, Shell hits 1
DD Le Triomphant, Shell hits 4, on fire

Reduced sighting due to 0% moonlight
Maximum visibility in Partly Cloudy Conditions and 0% moonlight: 9,000 yards
Range closes to 17,000 yards...
Range closes to 11,000 yards...
Range closes to 7,000 yards...
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 7,000 yards
CONTACT: Allied lookouts spot Japanese task force at 7,000 yards
CA Kinugasa engages CA Canberra at 7,000 yards
CA Kinugasa engages CA Australia at 7,000 yards
CA Kinugasa engages CL Concord at 7,000 yards
DD Yuzuki engages CL Perth at 7,000 yards
CL Achilles engages CA Kinugasa at 7,000 yards
CA Kinugasa engages CL Leander at 7,000 yards
DD Ayanami engages DD Le Triomphant at 7,000 yards
DD Voyager engages DD Hatsuyuki at 7,000 yards
DD Shirayuki engages DD Le Triomphant at 7,000 yards
DD Ayanami engages DD Farragut at 7,000 yards
Range closes to 4,000 yards
CA Kinugasa engages CA Australia at 4,000 yards
CA Australia engages CA Aoba at 4,000 yards
DD Farragut engages DD Kiku at 4,000 yards
CA Kinugasa engages CL Perth at 4,000 yards
CL Achilles engages DD Kikuzuki at 4,000 yards
CA Aoba engages CL Leander at 4,000 yards
DD Le Triomphant engages DD Yuzuki at 4,000 yards
DD Kiku engages DD Voyager at 4,000 yards
DD Shirayuki engages DD Farragut at 4,000 yards
DD Ayanami engages DD Farragut at 4,000 yards
DD Fubuki engages DD Farragut at 4,000 yards
Range increases to 5,000 yards
CA Kinugasa engages CL Concord at 5,000 yards
CA Kinugasa engages CA Australia at 5,000 yards
CA Kinugasa engages CL Concord at 5,000 yards
CA Kinugasa engages CL Perth at 5,000 yards
CA Aoba engages CL Achilles at 5,000 yards
CA Aoba engages CL Leander at 5,000 yards
DD Le Triomphant engages DD Ayanami at 5,000 yards
DD Kiku engages DD Voyager at 5,000 yards
DD Shirayuki engages DD Farragut at 5,000 yards
DD Usugumo engages DD Farragut at 5,000 yards
Range increases to 6,000 yards
CA Kinugasa engages CA Canberra at 6,000 yards
CA Australia engages CA Aoba at 6,000 yards
CA Aoba engages CL Concord at 6,000 yards
DD Yuzuki engages CL Perth at 6,000 yards
DD Kikuzuki engages DD Farragut at 6,000 yards
DD Uzuki engages DD Voyager at 6,000 yards
DD Farragut engages DD Ayanami at 6,000 yards
DD Voyager engages DD Hatsuyuki at 6,000 yards
DD Shirayuki engages DD Farragut at 6,000 yards
DD Le Triomphant engages DD Usugumo at 6,000 yards
DD Fubuki engages DD Voyager at 6,000 yards
Range increases to 8,000 yards
CA Aoba engages CA Canberra at 8,000 yards
CA Aoba engages CL Perth at 8,000 yards
DD Kiku engages DD Le Triomphant at 8,000 yards
DD Yuzuki engages DD Le Triomphant at 8,000 yards
DD Kikuzuki engages DD Le Triomphant at 8,000 yards
DD Uzuki engages DD Farragut at 8,000 yards
DD Uzuki engages DD Le Triomphant at 8,000 yards
DD Fubuki engages DD Voyager at 8,000 yards
DD Stuart engages DD Ayanami at 8,000 yards
DD Farragut engages DD Ayanami at 8,000 yards
Task forces break off...


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Day Time Surface Combat, near Port Moresby at 97,131, Range 23,000 Yards

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
F1M2 Pete: 1 destroyed

Japanese Ships
CA Aoba, Shell hits 43, and is sunk
CA Kinugasa, Shell hits 17, heavy fires, heavy damage
DD Fubuki
DD Usugumo
DD Shirayuki, Shell hits 1
DD Hatsuyuki
DD Ayanami, Shell hits 4, heavy fires
DD Uzuki, Shell hits 2, on fire
DD Kikuzuki, Shell hits 1, on fire
DD Yuzuki
DD Kiku, Shell hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage

Allied Ships
CA Australia
CA Canberra
CL Leander, Shell hits 3, heavy fires
CL Achilles
CL Perth
CL Concord, Shell hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
DD Farragut, Shell hits 2, heavy fires
DD Stuart, Shell hits 5, on fire
DD Voyager, Shell hits 13, and is sunk
DD Le Triomphant, Shell hits 5, on fire

Maximum visibility in Partly Cloudy Conditions: 28,000 yards
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 23,000 yards
CONTACT: Allied lookouts spot Japanese task force at 23,000 yards
CA Aoba engages CA Australia at 23,000 yards
CL Concord engages CA Kinugasa at 23,000 yards
CL Perth engages CA Aoba at 23,000 yards
CA Kinugasa engages CL Leander at 23,000 yards
CA Kinugasa engages DD Voyager at 23,000 yards
CA Australia engages DD Shirayuki at 23,000 yards
Range closes to 17,000 yards
CA Kinugasa engages CL Concord at 17,000 yards
DD Kiku engages DD Voyager at 17,000 yards
CA Kinugasa engages CL Perth at 17,000 yards
DD Voyager engages DD Kikuzuki at 17,000 yards
CA Aoba engages CL Leander at 17,000 yards
DD Kikuzuki engages DD Le Triomphant at 17,000 yards
DD Fubuki engages DD Voyager at 17,000 yards
DD Le Triomphant engages DD Shirayuki at 17,000 yards
DD Usugumo engages DD Le Triomphant at 17,000 yards
Range closes to 14,000 yards
CL Leander engages CA Kinugasa at 14,000 yards
CA Australia engages CA Kinugasa at 14,000 yards
DD Le Triomphant engages DD Kiku at 14,000 yards
CA Kinugasa engages CL Perth at 14,000 yards
CA Aoba engages CL Achilles at 14,000 yards
DD Uzuki engages DD Le Triomphant at 14,000 yards
DD Fubuki engages DD Le Triomphant at 14,000 yards
DD Hatsuyuki engages DD Le Triomphant at 14,000 yards
DD Fubuki engages DD Stuart at 14,000 yards
DD Farragut engages DD Usugumo at 14,000 yards
DD Fubuki engages DD Farragut at 14,000 yards
Range closes to 10,000 yards
CA Kinugasa engages CA Canberra at 10,000 yards
CA Australia engages CA Aoba at 10,000 yards
CA Aoba engages CL Concord at 10,000 yards
CA Aoba engages CL Perth at 10,000 yards
CL Leander engages CA Aoba at 10,000 yards
DD Fubuki engages DD Le Triomphant at 10,000 yards
DD Le Triomphant engages DD Hatsuyuki at 10,000 yards
DD Shirayuki engages DD Voyager at 10,000 yards
DD Kiku engages DD Farragut at 10,000 yards
DD Voyager engages DD Fubuki at 10,000 yards
Range closes to 8,000 yards
CL Perth engages CA Kinugasa at 8,000 yards
CA Aoba engages CA Australia at 8,000 yards
CA Kinugasa engages CL Concord at 8,000 yards
DD Yuzuki engages DD Voyager at 8,000 yards
CL Achilles engages CA Aoba at 8,000 yards
CA Kinugasa engages CL Leander at 8,000 yards
DD Farragut engages DD Ayanami at 8,000 yards
DD Voyager engages DD Hatsuyuki at 8,000 yards
DD Shirayuki engages DD Le Triomphant at 8,000 yards
DD Le Triomphant engages DD Usugumo at 8,000 yards
DD Farragut engages DD Fubuki at 8,000 yards
Range increases to 13,000 yards
CA Kinugasa engages CL Concord at 13,000 yards
CA Aoba engages CL Leander at 13,000 yards
CL Concord engages DD Kiku at 13,000 yards
DD Yuzuki engages DD Voyager at 13,000 yards
CA Kinugasa engages CL Achilles at 13,000 yards
DD Le Triomphant engages DD Uzuki at 13,000 yards
DD Le Triomphant engages DD Hatsuyuki at 13,000 yards
DD Voyager engages DD Kikuzuki at 13,000 yards
DD Usugumo engages DD Stuart at 13,000 yards
DD Farragut engages DD Fubuki at 13,000 yards
DD Fubuki engages DD Farragut at 13,000 yards
Range closes to 12,000 yards
CA Canberra engages CA Aoba at 12,000 yards
CA Aoba engages CA Canberra at 12,000 yards
CL Concord engages CA Aoba at 12,000 yards
DD Uzuki engages DD Voyager at 12,000 yards
DD Le Triomphant engages DD Shirayuki at 12,000 yards
DD Kiku engages DD Voyager at 12,000 yards
DD Voyager engages DD Shirayuki at 12,000 yards
DD Farragut engages DD Usugumo at 12,000 yards
DD Stuart engages DD Fubuki at 12,000 yards
CA Canberra engages CA Kinugasa at 12,000 yards
CA Aoba engages CA Australia at 12,000 yards
DD Le Triomphant engages DD Kiku at 12,000 yards
CA Aoba engages CL Perth at 12,000 yards
DD Kikuzuki engages DD Voyager at 12,000 yards
DD Le Triomphant engages DD Uzuki at 12,000 yards
DD Le Triomphant engages DD Fubuki at 12,000 yards
DD Fubuki engages DD Voyager at 12,000 yards
DD Stuart engages DD Shirayuki at 12,000 yards
DD Fubuki engages DD Farragut at 12,000 yards
DD Fubuki engages DD Le Triomphant at 12,000 yards
Range increases to 13,000 yards
CA Kinugasa engages CL Leander at 13,000 yards
CA Aoba engages CL Leander at 13,000 yards
CA Aoba engages CL Perth at 13,000 yards
CL Achilles engages CA Aoba at 13,000 yards
DD Uzuki engages DD Farragut at 13,000 yards
DD Le Triomphant engages DD Ayanami at 13,000 yards
DD Ayanami engages DD Voyager at 13,000 yards
DD Stuart engages DD Kikuzuki at 13,000 yards
DD Fubuki engages DD Farragut at 13,000 yards
Range closes to 12,000 yards
CA Aoba engages CA Canberra at 12,000 yards
CA Aoba engages CA Australia at 12,000 yards
CL Perth engages CA Kinugasa at 12,000 yards
CA Aoba engages CL Achilles at 12,000 yards
CL Leander engages DD Uzuki at 12,000 yards
DD Ayanami engages DD Farragut at 12,000 yards
DD Uzuki engages DD Stuart at 12,000 yards
DD Usugumo engages DD Voyager at 12,000 yards
DD Fubuki engages DD Stuart at 12,000 yards
CA Aoba engages CA Australia at 12,000 yards
DD Le Triomphant engages DD Kiku at 12,000 yards
CA Kinugasa engages CL Perth at 12,000 yards
CL Achilles engages CA Kinugasa at 12,000 yards
CA Aoba engages CL Leander at 12,000 yards
DD Le Triomphant engages DD Ayanami at 12,000 yards
DD Stuart engages DD Shirayuki at 12,000 yards
DD Usugumo engages DD Stuart at 12,000 yards
DD Fubuki engages DD Le Triomphant at 12,000 yards
Range increases to 13,000 yards
CA Kinugasa engages CA Canberra at 13,000 yards
CA Aoba engages CL Concord at 13,000 yards
CA Kinugasa engages CL Concord at 13,000 yards
CA Kinugasa engages CL Perth at 13,000 yards
CL Achilles engages CA Aoba at 13,000 yards
DD Uzuki engages DD Le Triomphant at 13,000 yards
DD Farragut engages DD Ayanami at 13,000 yards
DD Hatsuyuki engages DD Voyager at 13,000 yards
DD Uzuki engages DD Stuart at 13,000 yards
DD Usugumo engages DD Le Triomphant at 13,000 yards
DD Fubuki engages DD Le Triomphant at 13,000 yards
Range increases to 15,000 yards
CA Canberra engages CA Kinugasa at 15,000 yards
CA Kinugasa engages CA Australia at 15,000 yards
DD Le Triomphant engages DD Kiku at 15,000 yards
CL Perth engages CA Kinugasa at 15,000 yards
CA Aoba engages CL Achilles at 15,000 yards
DD Uzuki engages DD Le Triomphant at 15,000 yards
DD Ayanami engages DD Le Triomphant at 15,000 yards
DD Shirayuki engages DD Stuart at 15,000 yards
DD Kikuzuki engages DD Farragut at 15,000 yards
DD Fubuki engages DD Stuart at 15,000 yards
CA Aoba engages CL Perth at 15,000 yards
DD Farragut engages DD Yuzuki at 15,000 yards
DD Kikuzuki engages DD Stuart at 15,000 yards
CL Leander engages CA Aoba at 15,000 yards
DD Ayanami engages DD Le Triomphant at 15,000 yards
DD Voyager engages DD Kikuzuki at 15,000 yards
DD Stuart engages DD Hatsuyuki at 15,000 yards
DD Fubuki engages DD Voyager at 15,000 yards
Getting, F.E. orders Allied TF to disengage
Range closes to 14,000 yards
CA Kinugasa engages CL Perth at 14,000 yards
CL Perth engages CA Aoba at 14,000 yards
CL Concord engages CA Aoba at 14,000 yards
DD Yuzuki engages DD Farragut at 14,000 yards
CA Aoba engages CL Achilles at 14,000 yards
DD Ayanami engages DD Le Triomphant at 14,000 yards
DD Farragut engages DD Shirayuki at 14,000 yards
DD Yuzuki engages DD Farragut at 14,000 yards
CA Canberra engages CA Aoba at 14,000 yards
CA Australia engages CA Aoba at 14,000 yards
DD Stuart engages DD Kiku at 14,000 yards
DD Yuzuki engages DD Farragut at 14,000 yards
CL Achilles engages DD Kikuzuki at 14,000 yards
DD Ayanami engages DD Stuart at 14,000 yards
DD Hatsuyuki engages DD Farragut at 14,000 yards
DD Shirayuki engages DD Stuart at 14,000 yards
DD Usugumo engages DD Stuart at 14,000 yards
CL Leander engages CA Kinugasa at 14,000 yards
CL Achilles engages CA Aoba at 14,000 yards
DD Yuzuki engages DD Le Triomphant at 14,000 yards
DD Kikuzuki engages DD Stuart at 14,000 yards
CA Kinugasa engages CL Leander at 14,000 yards
DD Yuzuki engages DD Le Triomphant at 14,000 yards
DD Voyager engages DD Yuzuki at 14,000 yards
DD Ayanami engages DD Stuart at 14,000 yards
DD Farragut engages DD Hatsuyuki at 14,000 yards
DD Fubuki engages DD Stuart at 14,000 yards
Magazine explodes on CA Aoba
CA Aoba sunk by CA Canberra at 14,000 yards
CL Concord engages CA Kinugasa at 14,000 yards
DD Kikuzuki engages DD Le Triomphant at 14,000 yards
DD Uzuki engages DD Voyager at 14,000 yards
DD Ayanami engages DD Le Triomphant at 14,000 yards
DD Hatsuyuki engages DD Stuart at 14,000 yards
DD Shirayuki engages DD Stuart at 14,000 yards
DD Stuart engages DD Usugumo at 14,000 yards
DD Farragut engages DD Fubuki at 14,000 yards
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RE: Mar18.42: naval battle of Pt Moresby

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CA Kinugasa and CL Concord are confirmed, so final tally is

Japan: 2 Aoba class cruisers, Aoba and Kinugasa + 1 DD, Kiku?
Allies: CL Concord, DD Voyager

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A nice exchange for you.
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Nice result with the surface clash. As for Indomitable, what are her damage levels? If you have time, could you share the combat report featuring the Dutch fighters? I always love to see them in action.
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Nice result with the surface clash. As for Indomitable, what are her damage levels? If you have time, could you share the combat report featuring the Dutch fighters? I always love to see them in action.

damage was 11-48-11-3 (sys-flt-eng-fir)

now (one turn after) is at 11-44-11-0
26 float and 10 engine are major


with regards to the air battles, I had parked my fleet at Oosthaven, he knew it, but he was busy on Palembang and the base nearby. This was the 1st time he sent a significant force to bomb it; with well coordinated sweeps and using army as well as navy
so overall, I ended with DD Pope and one xAK damaged; all other hits went to the battleships or heavy cruisers and did nothing, as he brought 60kgs mainly

also, you might notice PG/20th PS with P-40Bs.. these are "Manila fighters"; they managed to left Luzon island hoping.. without drop tanks

battles:

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Morning Air attack on Oosthaven , at 48,96

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 23 NM, estimated altitude 23,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 15

Allied aircraft
B-339D x 20
CW-21B Demon x 12
P-40B Warhawk x 21

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-339D: 2 destroyed
CW-21B Demon: 1 destroyed
P-40B Warhawk: 2 destroyed

CAP engaged:
2-Vl.G.IV with CW-21B Demon (0 airborne, 8 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 23 minutes
3-Vl.G.IV with B-339D (0 airborne, 6 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 18 minutes
2-VI.G.V with B-339D (0 airborne, 8 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 24 minutes
24th PG/20th PS with P-40B Warhawk (0 airborne, 14 on standby, 0 scrambling)
7 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 18000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 18 minutes



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Morning Air attack on Oosthaven , at 48,96

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 38 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 14
G3M2 Nell x 19
G4M1 Betty x 7

Allied aircraft
B-339D x 11
CW-21B Demon x 9
P-40B Warhawk x 15

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed
G3M2 Nell: 1 destroyed, 3 damaged
G4M1 Betty: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-339D: 1 destroyed

Allied Ships
BB Resolution, Bomb hits 3
BB Royal Sovereign, Bomb hits 1
BB Ramillies, Bomb hits 1
CA Cornwall, Bomb hits 1
CLAA Van Heemskerck, Bomb hits 1
DD Pope, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires
xAK Kalani, Bomb hits 1, on fire
BB Revenge, Bomb hits 1

Port hits 2
Port fuel hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
13 x G3M2 Nell bombing from 7000 feet
Port Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb
4 x G4M1 Betty bombing from 7000 feet
Port Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb
5 x G3M2 Nell bombing from 7000 feet
Port Attack: 1 x 800 kg AP Bomb

CAP engaged:
2-Vl.G.IV with CW-21B Demon (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
9 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 13000 and 16000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 23 minutes
4 planes vectored on to bombers
3-Vl.G.IV with B-339D (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
5 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 13000 and 17000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 21 minutes
3 planes vectored on to bombers
2-VI.G.V with B-339D (0 airborne, 4 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 14000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 12 minutes
24th PG/20th PS with P-40B Warhawk (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
11 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 18000 , scrambling fighters between 14000 and 22000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 54 minutes
6 planes vectored on to bombers
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Morning Air attack on Oosthaven , at 48,96

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 17 NM, estimated altitude 24,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 3

Allied aircraft
B-339D x 7
CW-21B Demon x 8
P-40B Warhawk x 11

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-339D: 1 destroyed
P-40B Warhawk: 1 destroyed

CAP engaged:
2-Vl.G.IV with CW-21B Demon (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 8 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 21000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 43 minutes
3-Vl.G.IV with B-339D (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 13000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 2 minutes
2-VI.G.V with B-339D (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 7000 and 14160.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 46 minutes
24th PG/20th PS with P-40B Warhawk (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
6 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 18000 , scrambling fighters between 7000 and 26000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 41 minutes


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Morning Air attack on Oosthaven , at 48,96

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 30 NM, estimated altitude 7,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 17
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 29

Allied aircraft
B-339D x 4
CW-21B Demon x 8
P-40B Warhawk x 9

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 2 destroyed, 2 damaged
Ki-43-Ic Oscar: 1 destroyed

No Allied losses

Allied Ships
CL Boise, Bomb hits 1

Port hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
13 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 5000 feet *
Port Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
2-Vl.G.IV with CW-21B Demon (8 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
8 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 21000.
Raid is overhead
3-Vl.G.IV with B-339D (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 13000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 24 minutes
2-VI.G.V with B-339D (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 7000 and 14000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 21 minutes
24th PG/20th PS with P-40B Warhawk (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 3 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
5 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 18000 , scrambling fighters between 7000 and 13000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 26 minutes

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Morning Air attack on Oosthaven , at 48,96

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 18 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 6
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 6

Allied aircraft
B-339D x 3
CW-21B Demon x 5
P-40B Warhawk x 8

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 1 destroyed

No Allied losses

CAP engaged:
2-Vl.G.IV with CW-21B Demon (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
5 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 5000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 99 minutes
2 planes vectored on to bombers
3-Vl.G.IV with B-339D (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 8000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 23 minutes
24th PG/20th PS with P-40B Warhawk (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 4 scrambling)
4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 18000 , scrambling fighters between 5000 and 11000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 52 minutes
7 planes vectored on to bombers
2-VI.G.V with B-339D (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 5000 and 12000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 25 minutes
1 planes vectored on to bombers


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RE: Mar18.42: naval battle of Pt Moresby

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Thanks for the information. Looks like you're putting those fighters to good use.

Indomitable isn't too bad, but Cape Town is a long way to go. Still, with a good captain and enough escorts she should have a fighting chance going that way. It might be the better option if you can't protect her on the way to Colombo. He knows that's where she's likely to go.
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RE: Mar18.42: naval battle of Pt Moresby

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I think I would move them on direction to Diego Garcia, then decide later if they move to Colombo or Capetown

I can't use a direct route because I think I risk encountering Palembang's invasion fleet; I will expand soon, but basically I believe Palembang invasion will come from Singapore-Malacca strait-north Sumatra for a landing on Benkoelen

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And this is about Palembang

a valid question is why leave Benkoelen unguarded. I think that from all the places he can land, this is the one that benefits the Allies the most. He will invade "in force", probably more than one division landing, and with amphibious advantage, there is nothing I can do to stop him. he will land in turn 1, capture in turn 2 and move from there on. Other than building a second "fortress Palembang" which I can't do, garrisoning it with some small LCU to be destroyed on first battle will be a waste of time and troops.

He will still need to walk 4 hexes to Palembang, and in the meantime I will have an open rail between Oosthaven and Palembang, so some base forces, air HQs, AA could be evacuated. It also means that the main air battle will be over the skies of Oosthaven, 12 hexes from any Japanese base (Singapore and Singkawang), 12 hexes is also the maximum range of Ki-43 Oscar and long range for Zero, which means more chances of operational losses and pilot fatigue for Japan.

So Benkoelen is the better scenario for the Allies; if he, in the other hand, goes for Oosthaven then every single LCU in Sumatra is doomed
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RE: Mar18.42: naval battle of Pt Moresby

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Late March and Palembang is not taken yet, or even invested? That's not good.

If this drags out much further, and given your CV superiority, you could consider making a stand on Sumatra. It's still risky, but would basically end the war if successful.

You would need your CVs in the Indian Ocean though to pull that off, and I would still be concerned about Betties from Singapore. You would probably lose transports, and you would also need to start getting fighters, more AV support, and whatever infantry you can lift from India in there ASAP.

If you don't do that, you might consider bringing your CVs into the Indian Ocean anyway; that would force him to have to go through the front door to Palembang, and you could still potentially cause havoc on the invasion fleet

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We will see how it goes, I don't know if it is still possible, I think I need to assess the status as of the end of amphibious advantage. He just need to get a beach head in Sumatra and Java, and then it is going to be very difficult to get him out. He has 6 division totally uncommitted (Malaya and HK)

and I still don't have carrier superiority; at the moment I only have Hornet and Formidable, both either at out of map or at the very edges; Hornet also needs to upgrade its wings (still flying Helldivers). Japan can counter with Junyo+Ryujo+Hosho+Shoho+Zuiho+Taiyo, which combined gives a stronger punch than my ~123 planes
not to mention LBAs

Next Allied carrier is Illustrious in 38 days, next American carrier is Wasp in 81 days, then an intermission until 43
That might be too long to hold
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Mar20.42
- moved some AVPs to Enggano, to cover northern approach, one was sunk by submarines, the other is operating. an AVD will go to Siboret

- Clark field still holding, after so many deliberate attacks I lost count, should end next turn

- Battles over Oosthaven: 2 250kg hits on BBs, no damage other than a radar destroyed, and at the cost of 8 Oscars and 6 Sallys. I decided to put all ships on TF so that they only get bothered by naval attack

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Sub attack near Enggano at 45,94

Japanese Ships
SS I-154

Allied Ships
AVP Merel, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
AMc Digoel
AVP Heron

SS I-154 launches 2 torpedoes at AVP Merel
I-154 diving deep ....
AVP Heron fails to find sub, continues to search...
AVP Heron fails to find sub, continues to search...
AVP Heron fails to find sub, continues to search...
AVP Heron fails to find sub, continues to search...
AVP Heron fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub




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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Enggano at 44,94

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 13 NM, estimated altitude 7,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 12
G3M2 Nell x 13

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
AVP Heron
AMc Djampea, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk

Aircraft Attacking:
13 x G3M2 Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 45cm Type 91 Torp

Djampea dead in the water ...


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Afternoon Air attack on Oosthaven , at 48,96

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 14 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 2
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 12
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 32

Allied aircraft
B-339D x 5
CW-21B Demon x 11
P-40B Warhawk x 11
P-40E Warhawk x 22

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
Ki-43-Ic Oscar: 5 destroyed

No Allied losses

Allied Ships
BB Royal Sovereign, Bomb hits 1
BB Resolution, Bomb hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 5000 feet *
Port Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
2-Vl.G.IV with CW-21B Demon (3 airborne, 8 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 10 minutes
3-Vl.G.IV with B-339D (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 15000.
Raid is overhead
2-VI.G.V with B-339D (1 airborne, 3 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 10000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 9 minutes
24th PG/20th PS with P-40B Warhawk (3 airborne, 8 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 18000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 12 minutes
21st PS with P-40E Warhawk (7 airborne, 15 on standby, 0 scrambling)
7 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 20000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 15 minutes



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Afternoon Air attack on Oosthaven , at 48,96

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 16 NM, estimated altitude 7,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 3

Allied aircraft
B-339D x 3
CW-21B Demon x 11
P-40B Warhawk x 10
P-40E Warhawk x 22

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 1 destroyed

No Allied losses

CAP engaged:
2-Vl.G.IV with CW-21B Demon (7 airborne, 4 on standby, 0 scrambling)
7 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 10 minutes
3-Vl.G.IV with B-339D (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 8160.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 12 minutes
24th PG/20th PS with P-40B Warhawk (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
7 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 18000 , scrambling fighters between 5000 and 11000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 20 minutes
21st PS with P-40E Warhawk (7 airborne, 4 on standby, 0 scrambling)
7 plane(s) intercepting now.
11 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 8000 and 20000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 19 minutes
2-VI.G.V with B-339D (0 airborne, 1 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 5000 and 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 12 minutes


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Ground combat at Clark Field (79,76)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 34366 troops, 363 guns, 404 vehicles, Assault Value = 1005

Defending force 25146 troops, 278 guns, 115 vehicles, Assault Value = 30

Japanese adjusted assault: 407

Allied adjusted defense: 241

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 1)

Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 0

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+)
Attacker: disruption(-)

Japanese ground losses:
943 casualties reported
Squads: 8 destroyed, 35 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 39 disabled
Engineers: 11 destroyed, 31 disabled
Guns lost 11 (1 destroyed, 10 disabled)
Vehicles lost 83 (5 destroyed, 78 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
1221 casualties reported
Squads: 76 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 36 destroyed, 85 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 12 disabled
Guns lost 15 (13 destroyed, 2 disabled)

Assaulting units:
4th Tank Regiment
9th Infantry Regiment
48th Engineer Regiment
3rd Ind Engineer Regiment
7th Tank Regiment
16th Recon Regiment
2nd Tank Regiment
2nd Raiding Regiment
23rd Nav Gd Unit
65th Brigade
6th Tank Regiment
Tanaka
16th Engineer Regiment
24th Nav Gsn Unit
Kimura Det
Kanno
1st Formosa Inf. Regiment
21st Ind Engineer Regiment
47th Infantry Regiment
20th Infantry Regiment
Yokosuka 2nd SNLF
1st Medium Field Artillery Regiment
9th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
8th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
48th Field Artillery Regiment
14th Army
15th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion

Defending units:
31st PA Infantry Division
2nd Constabulary Regiment
III/Prov'nl SPM Grp
Cavite USN Base Force
I Corps
86th PS Field Artillery Battalion
Far East USAAF
88th PS Field Artillery Regiment
71st PA Infantry Division
24th Avn Sup
27th Avn Sup
35th Avn Sup
803rd Aviation Engineer Battalion
51st PA Infantry Division
200th & 515th Coast AA Regiment
31st Infantry Regiment
Clark Field AAF Base Force
I/Prov'nl SPM Grp
91st PA Infantry Division
Nichols Field AAF Base Force
II/Prov'nl SPM Grp
45th PS Infantry Regiment
41st PA Infantry Division
1st Constabulary Regiment
11th PAAC Avn Sup
21st PA Infantry Division
301st PA Field Artillery Regiment

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RE: Mar18.42: naval battle of Pt Moresby

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We will see how it goes, I don't know if it is still possible, I think I need to assess the status as of the end of amphibious advantage. He just need to get a beach head in Sumatra and Java, and then it is going to be very difficult to get him out. He has 6 division totally uncommitted (Malaya and HK)

and I still don't have carrier superiority; at the moment I only have Hornet and Formidable, both either at out of map or at the very edges; Hornet also needs to upgrade its wings (still flying Helldivers). Japan can counter with Junyo+Ryujo+Hosho+Shoho+Zuiho+Taiyo, which combined gives a stronger punch than my ~123 planes
not to mention LBAs

Next Allied carrier is Illustrious in 38 days, next American carrier is Wasp in 81 days, then an intermission until 43
That might be too long to hold


Good points, I hadn't considered that you lost 2 CVs IIRC, and a third one is in the yard for awhile. Still a great victory for you.
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