OT - The New Coronavirus

[RangerJoe]

Well, here is a link to another thread where a lot of information is being posted:

https://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.a ... 6&#4773843

Since that information is there, I feel that I don't have to post it here. I am not worried about this. If I get it, I get it. I am in several higher risk categories. But there are things to minimize your risk and to minimize the effect if you do get it, those things I have posted.

[Erik Rutins]

This is worth reading:

https://www.statnews.com/2020/03/10/sim ... -covid-19/

[TulliusDetritus]

I read her reasoning via twitter a few days ago. Scary. Her maths are describing what happened in ground zero: Wuhan and now Italy (poor and incompetent Iran has to be another sort of hell, they possibly stopped testing people): utterly overwhelmed and on the brink of collapse. I read Italian doctors' accounts... horrible [X(]

[z1812]

I live in Toronto. Last night I watched a news program where the commentator remarked that she had been shopping and the shelves were becoming empty and there was no bathroom tissue to be had. She also said the store was virtually empty.

I had to shop today at our local supermarket which is a normally busy store. People were shopping and all items were available as far as I could see. All was normal.

I also did some math according to 2018-19 statistics for the "normal" Flu. 300,000 to 600,000 died. I erred on the side of caution and used a figure of 200,000 and divided that by 195 ( number of world countries ), that works out to 1,025 deaths per country. Fortunately we are nowhere near that yet.

Also there are two different corona virus' at work. Link below.
https://www.newscientist.com/article/22 ... re-deadly/

It seems to me one is like a regular, but very virulent Flu and the other more like Sars. So the regular one would be the very contagious virus responsible for the lighter cases, where most recover, and the other would be like Sars; much less contagious but much more deadly. That would also account for the reports about young, and otherwise healthy adults, who have quickly succumbed to the illness. Mind you this is only my speculation.

I am not underestimating the seriousness of the situation, but facts, perspective, and context is important.

[z1812]

More bad news from Italy.

Leading Italian public health expert Nino Cartabellotta offers a stark perspective on the coronavirus outbreak in Italy.

https://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/featu ... 14339.html

[RangerJoe]

Here are some links:

https://blog.getpocket.com/2020/03/coro ... ket-newtab

How the Horrific 1918 Flu Spread Across America
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/ ... 180965222/

Coronavirus: nine reasons to be reassured
Yes, Covid-19 is serious, but context is key and the world is well placed to deal with it
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/ ... -reassured

[Erik Rutins]

This is also worth looking over:

https://twitter.com/mlipsitch/status/12 ... 4951305216

[Gilmer]

ORIGINAL: balto

Gilmer, you are golden if you had Corona. Corona symptoms are identical to the flu.., and of course you survived as does everyone with decent health. Go out and party everywhere because you are now immune.

Well, I hope it was not Coronavirus, because I probably infected people. They did say I was giving them the flu. And I wasn't. But, I wonder if they knew to check for anything other than the regular flu?

[TulliusDetritus]

ORIGINAL: TulliusDetritus
China [...] will soon be sending to the rest of the world equipment, experience, doctors and nurses... stay tuned [;)]

two days later errrrr

[rommel222]

Greetings to All,
Gov Cuomo deploys National Guard to to contain Corona Virus in NY state:
https://www.npr.org/2020/03/10/81416492 ... nyc-suburb

[RangerJoe]

3. How does not touching your face help against the virus?

Respiratory infections such as pneumonia or the flu, can spread through droplets in the air when someone sick coughs, sneezes or talks near an uninfected person, according to the Association for Professionals in Infection Control and Epidemiology (APIC). This runs similar to how the CDC believes COVID-19 spreads.

"Respiratory infections can be caused by many different bacteria, viruses, and other disease-causing germs," according to the APIC. "When you touch your face with dirty, unwashed hands, germs can take up residence in your mucus membranes which can lead to an infection."

Respiratory infections can not only spread through respiratory droplets, but through contact as well.

https://www.accuweather.com/en/weather- ... rts/697610

[RangerJoe]

Move to the hot, humid tropics!

Hong Kong University pathology professor John Nicholls said that he suspected three factors would potentially kill the virus, according to the transcript of a private conference call in early February.

"Three things the virus does not like: 1. Sunlight, 2. Temperature and 3. Humidity," Nicholls said in remarks that were leaked on social media. "The virus can remain intact at 4 degrees Celsius (39 degrees Fahrenheit) or 10 degrees C (50 F)...But at 30 degrees C (86 degrees F) then you get inactivation."

The CDC has cautioned that not enough is known about the virus to say for sure that weather will affect the spread, but a spokesperson said, "I’m happy to hope that it [the threat] goes down as the weather warms up."

https://www.accuweather.com/en/health-w ... rus/691967

[RangerJoe]

In other news related to this:

NASA images show amazing reduction in pollution over China believed to be linked to coronavirus outbreak

https://www.accuweather.com/en/weather- ... eak/693879

[Zorch]

Repurposed drugs may help scientists fight the new coronavirus https://www.sciencenews.org/article/cor ... ents-drugs

Work on similar viruses is giving researchers clues to develop drugs against the disease

[Erik Rutins]

Someone was wondering earlier how it does on surfaces and how to disinfect. Here's some info:

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/a ... 0120300463

[z1812]

ORIGINAL: Erik Rutins

Someone was wondering earlier how it does on surfaces and how to disinfect. Here's some info:

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/a ... 0120300463

That is truly frightening.

[RangerJoe]

How to Make Your Own Disinfectant Bleach Solution

The Centers for Disease Control (CDC) recommends using a 1:10 solution for disinfecting surfaces and objects that may have been tainted by contagions. Be sure to follow these steps exactly to make a safe and effective bleach solution.

https://www.verywellhealth.com/make-you ... ion-998274

For larger areas:

Cleaning and Sanitizing with Bleach after an Emergency
There is also a chart in the web page:

Using Cleaning & Sanitizing Products

First, wash surfaces with soap and warm, clean water to remove dirt and debris. Next, sanitize surfaces with household bleach.

It is critical to read and follow the safety instructions on any product you use. Below are the most important safety guidelines when using sanitizing products:

Never mix bleach with ammonia or any other cleaner.
Wear rubber or other non-porous boots, gloves, and eye protection.
Try not to breathe in product fumes. If using products indoors, open windows and doors to allow fresh air to enter.

https://www.cdc.gov/disasters/bleach.html

[Erik Rutins]

Good interview regarding COVID-19

https://youtu.be/cZFhjMQrVts

[z1812]

https://nypost.com/2020/02/16/chinese-b ... ronavirus/

[TulliusDetritus]

what a time to be alive...

"Coronavirus Conference Gets Canceled Because of Coronavirus"

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... oronavirus