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ORIGINAL: Jorge_Stanbury
the end of the good times for pandemia profiteers:
amazon cracking on Corona virus price gouging
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/14/tech ... llers.html
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ORIGINAL: Kull
ORIGINAL: obvert
This has been done already in China. One female doctor who recovered donated her plasma for this cause.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/202 ... -life.html
[font="Trebuchet MS"]The Chinese government has urged recovered patients to donate plasma, which experts say contains antibodies that could be used to treat the sick. Ms. Deng contacted a local blood bank soon after getting home.
She plans to go back to work as soon as the hospital allows it.
“It was the nation that saved me,” she said. “And I think I can pay it back to the nation.”[/font]
It seems they've been doing this since early February treat some patients at least.
https://time.com/5784286/covid-19-china ... treatment/
[font="Trebuchet MS"]China National Biotec Group Co. has been using this plasma, which contains highly potent antibodies, to treat more than 10 seriously ill patients since Feb. 8, the company said in an statement on its official WeChat account Thursday night. It claimed that those receiving the treatment improved within 24 hours, with reduced inflammation and viral loads along with better oxygen levels in the blood.[/font]
Which makes this even more encouraging. It's not a theory. It works!! And best of all, per the first story, none of this is "new technology". The hardware exists and the process exists.
In this episode, Dr. Peter Hotez M.D., Ph.D., Dean for the National School of Tropical Medicine Baylor College of Medicine, shares his expertise on viral disease and how it applies specifically to the coronavirus disease (COVID-19) and the virus that causes it (SARS-CoV-2). Dr. Hotez informs us about the current state of disease progression, which has many unknowns, but has thus far been greatly determined by the delayed response time and lack of testing. Moreover, we discuss what we can do on a country, state, community, and individual level in order to collectively slow transmission of the disease. He shares with us a potential hope in convalescent plasma therapy and underscores the need for US federal involvement – particularly in the creation of a specialty task force to address areas of concern and unknowns.
Disclaimer: This is information accurate as of March 13, 2020, when it was recorded.
I've seen it posted a few times that, essentially, China did not experience exponential growth of infections until such and such a date. I think the information in (and linked to in) this article shows the number of infections grew rapidly right from the start.ORIGINAL: witpqs
Chinese government knew about coronavirus one month earlier than it claimed: reportGovernment documents seen by the South China Morning Post show the first reported case of COVID-19 surfaced on November 17. Scientists believe that a 55-year-old person from Hubei, a province in central China, could be "patient zero" though that has not yet been confirmed.
Government documents seen by the South China Morning Post show the first reported case of COVID-19 surfaced on November 17. Scientists believe that a 55-year-old person from Hubei, a province in central China, could be "patient zero" though that has not yet been confirmed.
Of the first nine cases to be reported in November -- four men and five women -- none have turned out to be "patient zero," a term used to refer to the person identified as the first carrier of a communicable disease.
Each day after November 17, one to five new cases were reported, and by December 15, the number of infections had grown to 27. Five days later, the number reached 60, the SCMP said.
On December 27, Zhang Jixian, a Chinese doctor from Hubei Provincial Hospital of Integrated Chinese and Western Medicine, told health authorities that the peculiar pneumonia-like illness infecting people was actually caused by a new coronavirus. Three days later, the number of confirmed cases had jumped to 266. Twenty-four hours later, the number spiked to 381.
As late as January 11, Wuhan’s health authorities were still claiming there were just 41 confirmed cases.
ORIGINAL: Jorge_Stanbury
the end of the good times for pandemia profiteers:
amazon cracking on Corona virus price gouging
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/14/tech ... llers.html
; Julia Child ; Julia Child ; Julia ChildORIGINAL: BBfanboy
I presume that figure is worldwide. I am sure a lot of second and third world nations are just starting to get the capacity to test and know their numbers. Heaven knows how many may try and hide or downplay their numbers to encourage tourists to visit. During my 10 days in Jamaica there was no information on COVID-19 in that nation, although cruise ships were visiting and a steady stream of aircraft brought in visitors from many nations. I returned Feb. 27th when western governments were just starting to take major measures to find and isolate cases.
ORIGINAL: Kull
9-12 month shutdowns are not something that ANY business can sustain. I can't see any bar or restaurant businesses surviving, the cruise industry is gone, for-profit airlines will be a thing of the past, brick-and-mortar schools will be relics, the list goes on and on. What are all those workers going to do in the interim? How does society handle the long-term loss of a system which uses schools largely as daycare centers for kids so that parents can leave the house and hold jobs? The "law of unintended consequences" is going to play out in a big way here, and many of them are going to major and devastating.
ORIGINAL: RangerJoe
I would also like to point out that the Corona virus 19 appears to latch onto something on the human cell called ACE. Another treatment that is being tried is to flood the body with extra ACE so the virus latches onto that and then can't infect a cell. Whether or not this is the same ACE where some people with heart disease takes ACE inhibitors, I don't know.
ORIGINAL: Erik Rutins
ORIGINAL: RangerJoe
I would also like to point out that the Corona virus 19 appears to latch onto something on the human cell called ACE. Another treatment that is being tried is to flood the body with extra ACE so the virus latches onto that and then can't infect a cell. Whether or not this is the same ACE where some people with heart disease takes ACE inhibitors, I don't know.
If you're interested, this goes into detail on some of that:
http://www.nephjc.com/news/covidace2
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ORIGINAL: Jorge_Stanbury
the end of the good times for pandemia profiteers:
amazon cracking on Corona virus price gouging
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/14/tech ... llers.html
Amazon cracks down on Canadian coronavirus price-gouging couple
https://www.foxnews.com/world/amazon-cr ... ce-gougers
ORIGINAL: Scott_USN
ORIGINAL: RangerJoe
ORIGINAL: Jorge_Stanbury
the end of the good times for pandemia profiteers:
amazon cracking on Corona virus price gouging
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/14/tech ... llers.html
Amazon cracks down on Canadian coronavirus price-gouging couple
https://www.foxnews.com/world/amazon-cr ... ce-gougers
I am surprised someone has not started selling a "Cure". 80 bucks for 4 tubes of wipes? I have bleach under the counter and gallon of vinegar, not sure if vinegar would kill it though, it will kill influenza.
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