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The greater Savannah area has a population or around 550,000. Yesterday we had our first corona virus diagnosis in Effingham County and the patient is hospitalized. They are trying to trace and track contacts.

However, the Coastal Health District here has been issued 90 test kits. Just how well they will help diagnosis a population of 550,000 is the question. Obviously, there is not much testing going on except for the big clusters or if you are an NBA player.

Each test kit can test hundreds of people if there are enough of the supplies.
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What was it after 911?

"Go out, Go shopping"

Now...

"Fear everyone, Shelter in place."






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Look on the bright side,

This virus has the potential to solve many of our problems.






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Ranchers should be on high alert for thefts, scams during pandemic
Mar 20, 2020

https://kfor.com/health/coronavirus/ran ... -pandemic/



"“Economic and industry distress always increases the number of desperate people that will take fraudulent, dishonorable and criminal actions,” he said.

Williamson says during times of desperation, more people turn to theft and deception to make ends meet. He adds that more people buying or selling in a panicked state may cloud their judgment. "






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Status Report - Bishop CA

The Governor put us all in lockdown state-wide until further notice. Things are kinda crazy. We can go out and exercise on walks and bicycles - just keep the distance and practice good hygiene.

When I went to Vons last night with my wife, there were large sections of isles that were empty. Along with the empty toilet paper section - someone bought up all the good crystal cat litter! Apparently no one wants a stinky cat box.

There are a lot of people mind-tripping right now - unsure how they will pay bills and make ends meet. I told my kids to stock up on beans and rice. My wife is not too thrilled with that idea as beans give me gas...

In California I predict a population explosion to start taking place about 9 months from now, spiraling upwards in relation to the length of this emergency lockdown.



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Status Report - Bishop CA

The Governor put us all in lockdown state-wide until further notice. Things are kinda crazy. We can go out and exercise on walks and bicycles - just keep the distance and practice good hygiene.

When I went to Vons last night with my wife, there were large sections of isles that were empty. Along with the empty toilet paper section - someone bought up all the good crystal cat litter! Apparently no one wants a stinky cat box.

There are a lot of people mind-tripping right now - unsure how they will pay bills and make ends meet. I told my kids to stock up on beans and rice. My wife is not too thrilled with that idea as beans give me gas...

In California I predict a population explosion to start taking place about 9 months from now, spiraling upwards in relation to the length of this emergency lockdown.

Don't forget the sauerkraut at the same meal for the vitamin C.

BTW, you know the honeymoon is over when you fart in bed . . . [X(]
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Here you can see a column of military trucks carrying a TINY fraction of the dead from COVID-19 to the crematorium.


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Thanks for sharing this picture. If that doesn't drive home how bad things can get with this pandemic then I don't know what will.

I hate the thought of locking myself and family into the house for a few weeks. I hate this picture and all it implies worse.


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ORIGINAL: durnedwolf

Status Report - Bishop CA

The Governor put us all in lockdown state-wide until further notice. Things are kinda crazy. We can go out and exercise on walks and bicycles - just keep the distance and practice good hygiene.

When I went to Vons last night with my wife, there were large sections of isles that were empty. Along with the empty toilet paper section - someone bought up all the good crystal cat litter! Apparently no one wants a stinky cat box.

There are a lot of people mind-tripping right now - unsure how they will pay bills and make ends meet. I told my kids to stock up on beans and rice. My wife is not too thrilled with that idea as beans give me gas...

In California I predict a population explosion to start taking place about 9 months from now, spiraling upwards in relation to the length of this emergency lockdown.

Don't forget the sauerkraut at the same meal for the vitamin C.

BTW, you know the honeymoon is over when you fart in bed . . . [X(]

lol - we've been married since 98. It's been a good life so far. I was fortunate and "married up." [:)]


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"An army spokesman confirmed on Thursday that 15 trucks and 50 soldiers had been deployed to move bodies to neighbouring provinces. Earlier local authorities in Bergamo had appealed for help with cremations after they had overwhelmed its crematorium."

https://nationalpost.com/news/world/cov ... elmed-town






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Here's what we know so far about Italy's Coronavirus victims

https://www.thelocal.it/20200311/corona ... s-in-italy


"The picture is very similar to that given by previous statistics in Italy: the median age of the deceased is 80, the majority of victims are male, and they had an average of 2.7 pre-existing health conditions."


"Almost all patients were already suffering from serious health problems, including cancer, when the Coronavirus infection was detected, according to the newest data from the ISS."






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Edward Bernays

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Bernays



"Bernays organized a contingent of women to smoke cigarettes—"torches of freedom"—at the 1929 Easter Sunday parade in New York. The event was carefully scripted to promote the intended message."


"In the 1930s, his Dixie Cup campaign was designed to convince consumers that only disposable cups were sanitary by linking the imagery of an overflowing cup with subliminal images of vaginas and venereal disease."






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I now know 7 people in 3 different families who have COVID 19. Thankfully all are seemingly minor cases.

You know what they all have in common though? They were all stuck in customs at O'Hare Airport for 6+ hours last weekend because of a sudden order to screen for COVID 19. They were returning to US from different countries, but ended up in the same crowd. See attached picture; 7 people in this scrum were sick or got sick that I know of, so you know the actual count is much, much higher.

I'm sure the intentions were good--let's screen for COVID 19!--but if you are not smart about it you end up with this

Road to hell is paved with what?

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Italian province table updated thru 3/19. Even though the percentage increases continue to be higher in the "south", it's important to recognize that 3/4 of all cases are found in only 4 northern provinces (Lombardy, Emilia-Romagna, Veneto & Piedmont), and the daily increase for those 4 has stayed around 12% in the 5 days I've been tracking this (and has actually ticked up 3 days in a row (see last row on the table).

We really want to see a noticeable decrease there, particularly in Lombardy, but so far it's just not happening.

Note: All percentages at the bottom of the table show changes from one day to the next. These are not overall numbers.

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1) Daily Italian Stats by province here

2) Original post with regional map of Italy here

3) The 3/17 Update Post here

4) The 3/18 Update Post here

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Spain is the next train wreck. Today they moved into 3rd place in the world in terms of known cases (see attachment), but they've only tested 30,000 (they finally appeared in the wiki testing table today), substantially less than Italy's 182K.

This article talks about the state of testing in Spain. The tests they use take a long time to process, and while Spain has the ability to manufacture their own kits, they are dependent on parts from outside, and those sources are drying up. As a result, the testing guidelines specifically exclude using tests for contact tracing, so you can imagine what's coming.

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"Give me liberty, or give me death!"




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I now know 7 people in 3 different families who have COVID 19. Thankfully all are seemingly minor cases.

You know what they all have in common though? They were all stuck in customs at O'Hare Airport for 6+ hours last weekend because of a sudden order to screen for COVID 19. They were returning to US from different countries, but ended up in the same crowd. See attached picture; 7 people in this scrum were sick or got sick that I know of, so you know the actual count is much, much higher.

I'm sure the intentions were good--let's screen for COVID 19!--but if you are not smart about it you end up with this

Road to hell is paved with what?

That was before the ban on gatherings, so fine, right? [8|]

Amazing no one had that thought just looking at the crowd.
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Continued bad news from Italy today (we're all pulling for you, Italy!)

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Italian province table updated thru 3/19. Even though the percentage increases continue to be higher in the "south", it's important to recognize that 3/4 of all cases are found in only 4 northern provinces (Lombardy, Emilia-Romagna, Veneto & Piedmont), and the daily increase for those 4 has stayed around 12% in the 5 days I've been tracking this (and has actually ticked up 3 days in a row (see last row on the table).

We really want to see a noticeable decrease there, particularly in Lombardy, but so far it's just not happening.

Note: All percentages at the bottom of the table show changes from one day to the next. These are not overall numbers.

Pertinent links:

1) Daily Italian Stats by province here

2) Original post with regional map of Italy here

3) The 3/17 Update Post here

4) The 3/18 Update Post here

It looks like the testing numbers for Lombardy might be indicating that this region is approaching herd immunity levels. With 381/1000 tests positive, that should indicate a similar percentage or higher (mild or asymptomatic cases not being tested) actually have the virus.

If so the positive would be the Ro will soon be going down as more recover and become immune.
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ORIGINAL: Kull

Italian province table updated thru 3/19. Even though the percentage increases continue to be higher in the "south", it's important to recognize that 3/4 of all cases are found in only 4 northern provinces (Lombardy, Emilia-Romagna, Veneto & Piedmont), and the daily increase for those 4 has stayed around 12% in the 5 days I've been tracking this (and has actually ticked up 3 days in a row (see last row on the table).

We really want to see a noticeable decrease there, particularly in Lombardy, but so far it's just not happening.

Note: All percentages at the bottom of the table show changes from one day to the next. These are not overall numbers.

Pertinent links:

1) Daily Italian Stats by province here

2) Original post with regional map of Italy here

3) The 3/17 Update Post here

4) The 3/18 Update Post here

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Another worrying data point here is what it is happening in Calabria, my home region. For days and days the number of know cases stayed at 68 and looked contained. Now it is tripling.

Remember what we said about the ICU differences between the North and the rest of Italy? "Even an uptick can strain the fragile South". All of sudden the cases are tripling, with a daily trend upward - and I'm worried.
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Before dawn, I drove 40 miles to meet a friend (a retired superior court judge) at a McDonalds in the small town of Chatsworth. The dining room was closed (statewide order now), so we got ours to go. Then we went to Fort Mountain State Park and hiked about four miles, including a craggy, steep bushwhack up the Goldmine Branch gorge. It was a lovely, mild morning. Lots of neotropical migrants are present and singing now, including Louisiana waterthrush, black-and-white warbler, black-throated-green warbler and yellow-throated warbler. Star chickweed, bloodroot, toadshade trillium and lots of other flowers in bloom. Everything lush and lovely and perfectly normal.

My friend has about the same level of concern about the virus as everyone else I've come across in Georgia. He mentioned the immense death toll of WWI exacerbated by the Spanish flu pandemic and wondered how the people endured such duel cataclysms and how we'd react today.

Athens/Clarke County (University of Georgia location) has issued a "shelter in home" edict until something like April 7. I think that county had six cases as of yesterday. That level of lock down isn't widespread in Georgia yet. It probably will be in the next day or two.

For what it's worth, I remain optimistic about the outcome of this. Many underlying numbers continue to look encouraging (in most places). The level of response, can-do attitude, cheerfulness of the populace, and quality of healthcare are most encouraging.

No doubt countries will continue ramping up production and sharing, with those that have plenty reaching out to those really struggling. All over.
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