OT - The New Coronavirus

[sPzAbt653]

I wonder what the 'facial tissue' aisle looks like? Oh nice, they left a couple packages.

[Canoerebel]

I can't speak for Canada, but in many ways the US got ahead of many European countries. That's mainly due to the act that Europe "went first." We got to see what was happening there and how countries were imposing countermeasures.

The US has multiple levels of government that still play a big role in things. In my state (Georgia), the state, county and city governments were in many ways ahead of the federal government. Most or all of our schools shut down a week before England's did. Strict countermeasures went into effect about nine days ago. That was just a few days after Italy, but Italy had a two-week head start in terms of the maturing of the outbreak there.

These numbers aren't absolute - there are lots of variations here and there. Overall, though the US should do okay.

ORIGINAL: MrsWargamer

No numbers, no stats, no references. I am just plain worried that Canada and the US have not been aggressive enough with this.

We've seen it at work in places that have been aggressive, and it has been rough on them.
I'm concerned that our populations are going to get a real kick in the teeth shortly.

Whether from the virus itself or from our own ill-advised actions.

[sPzAbt653]

I often feel uncomfortable here in the glutinous USA when walking thru the stores with shelves full to overflowing. Not so today, as many shelves are scavenged to bareness. I can't blame people, because not knowing how long this will last, if I had a wife and kids I'm sure I would have grabbed as much as I could also. But of course, I actually would have been better prepared in the first place, as I am now. I'm not a prepper but I worked for FEMA for a while and I know that you can't really rely on anyone else, nor should you. And its also a mistake to think that things can't get worse.

[PipFromSlitherine]

In a week everything will be restocked. Happened here. There are not issues with the supply chain.

Cheers

Pip

[Lobster]

ORIGINAL: MrsWargamer

No numbers, no stats, no references. I am just plain worried that Canada and the US have not been aggressive enough with this.

We've seen it at work in places that have been aggressive, and it has been rough on them.
I'm concerned that our populations are going to get a real kick in the teeth shortly.

Whether from the virus itself or from our own ill-advised actions.

I agree. And now there is talk about doing away with social distancing in the U.S. to 'save the economy'. What about saving people?

[Lobster]

According to Worldometer website.

[TulliusDetritus]

Panic buying is harming the old and disabled people. Truck drivers too: they need to work twice. Fear is understandable and universal though.

[Lobster]

WHO situation report:

https://www.who.int/docs/default-source ... 703b2c40_2

I thought China had no new cases. [&:]

And/or any new cases were imported as opposed to transmitted.

[RangerJoe]

Just develop Obsessive Compulsive Behavior and keep enough essentials for at least two weeks. Canned or dry, if canned just make sure that you have a mechanical can opener. Bottled water for awhile as well as a means to get more clean fluid - even if it is tree sap!

[Lobster]

I've had the same P38 can openers for 50 years. [:D]

[RangerJoe]

ORIGINAL: Lobster

I've had the same P38 can openers for 50 years. [:D]

They work great but I have the larger version.

[rommel222]

Greetings to All,
I am astounded by emperor Cuomo deciding not to buy thousands of ventilators in 2015 to prepare for epidemics after HiN1 swine flu scare.
Instead formed "death panels" for who would be placed on them and who would not.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump- ... rs-in-2015

Now he wants ventilators. He is a three term gov and is coming up for a fourth term which has never been done in NY state.

[rommel222]

Greetings to All Again,
Corona Virus cases in NY doubling every 3 days-Gov Cuomo:
https://www.wamc.org/post/coronavirus-n ... cuomo-says

[Curtis Lemay]

Today's worldwide figures (I'm sure not seeing any "flattening of the curve" here):

[z1812]

This article is very interesting. It lists the Flu Mortality rate in Italy, year by year, from 2013 to 2017. It seems the current death rate while extremely tragic, is not unusual for the country.

Make of it what you will.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/a ... 1219303285

[MrRoadrunner]

19677/433172 = 4.5%

RR

[Lobster]

ORIGINAL: z1812

This article is very interesting. It lists the Flu Mortality rate in Italy, year by year, from 2013 to 2017. It seems the current death rate while extremely tragic, is not unusual for the country.

Make of it what you will.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/a ... 1219303285

It could be related to Italy's aging population. If I recall theirs has the highest average age of the EU.

[Erik Rutins]

ORIGINAL: z1812
This article is very interesting. It lists the Flu Mortality rate in Italy, year by year, from 2013 to 2017. It seems the current death rate while extremely tragic, is not unusual for the country.

Statistics aside, I think the clear evidence in front of us is that Italy's hospitals and ICUs are not filled to overflowing and forced to choose who will get a ventilator on a normal flu year. If it were allowed to just spread like the flu is allowed to, the number of deaths relative to a normal flu year would be incomparable. This virus can do in a much shorter time what flu normally does over half a year.

Regards,

- Erik

[Lobster]

W.H.O. situation report:
https://www.who.int/docs/default-source ... 2b74edd8_2
Worldometer:
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

[Zovs]

This is very encouraging news! The U.K. has downgraded Covid-19.

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/high-conseq ... eases-hcid