OT: Corona virus

[MakeeLearn]

https://covidtracking.com/data/

[Chickenboy]

ORIGINAL: Sammy5IsAlive

ORIGINAL: Chickenboy

ORIGINAL: USSAmerica




Already there as of 6:00 pm, eastern. [:(]

It shouldn't be a surprise that, as our diagnostic testing capabilities get rolling in earnest, our positive case count climbs. We *could* be like Russia (and Japan) and neither test nor report, but I'd really feel better with achieving 'ground truth' as soon as possible.

Like stock markets-the uncertainty is the worst part. I'd much rather have 'bad news' (higher case counts via testing) than uncertainty.

Does anybody here with strong Google-fu have access to the denominator of the equation? Numerator= number of cases positive. Denominator= number of (approved) tests conducted overall.

I don't think there is anything complicated behind the rapid increase of cases in the US. The USA covers pretty much the same land mass as Europe. Europe's land mass is split between c.50 (depending on which countries you count) different nations.

As things are being reported at the moment, Italy; Spain; Germany; France and the UK are reported separately. If you transplanted them onto a map of the US they would all fit within your single country. The total cases of those five countries is c224,000.

That said, on the last chart I saw of case increases by region (i.e. showing Lombardy, Madrid, Hubei etc) New York's trend was looking the worst of anywhere. I think it could get very bad, very fast there. More positively Washington and maybe California were looking as if they may have 'flattened the curve'. Will try and find the chart and post it.

Edit - this is the chart I was talking about - I don't know how to embed it so if somebody sends me a PM with instructions I'll edit the post show it shows properly. Even more worryingly for NY it is showing deaths and not cases.

https://www.ft.com/__origami/service/im ... width=1260

Came through fine, Sammy5IsAlive. Interesting and scary. Poor New York. [:(] Glad to See California and Washington separated out and much lower too...

[Chickenboy]

ORIGINAL: MakeeLearn

https://covidtracking.com/data/

[&o]

[MakeeLearn]

My modesty allows me only one ROAR!!!

[alanschu]

ORIGINAL: Q-Ball

Looks like US will be #1 in total cases by tomorrow morning; as of right now, just a little behind Italy and China, but we are growing much faster.

Took me a moment to get my bearings as I just refreshed it as China wasn't in the #1 spot haha.

[Cap Mandrake]

ORIGINAL: alanschu

ORIGINAL: Q-Ball

Looks like US will be #1 in total cases by tomorrow morning; as of right now, just a little behind Italy and China, but we are growing much faster.

Took me a moment to get my bearings as I just refreshed it as China wasn't in the #1 spot haha.

That doesn't strike me as funny alanschu

[Sammy5IsAlive]

ORIGINAL: Chickenboy

Came through fine, Sammy5IsAlive. Interesting and scary. Poor New York. [:(] Glad to See California and Washington separated out and much lower too...

Potentially it is very bad for NY but encouraging for the US overall. I'm assuming all of the unlabelled grey lines are the other US states. If that is the case then they are almost all trending below Wuhan and well below the worst affected areas in Europe.

[Cap Mandrake]

Trusting the Chicoms to accurately report their Covid-19 cases is like expecting Trump AND Obama to play a round of golf and both accurately record their scores.

These are the same homies who suppressed reports of an outbreak, did the same exact damn thing with SARS, disappeared 21 million Chinese cell phone accounts during the time of the epidemic, hid the Tienanmen massacre and the epic disaster of the Cultural Revolution AND put a toxic chemical in dog food to fake protein testing.

[CaptBeefheart]

Rader: Good luck to you. Where are you based?

Korea Update: We are getting about 100 new cases a day, with about 300 recoveries. About 20% of those new cases are imports. That has caused some social trouble. There's a lot of class envy here, and a lot of those import cases are Korean students living in the rich area of Gangnam (literally "south of the river") in Seoul coming back from New York City. So, you may imagine the social media sphere is upset at these "rich spoiled kids" adding to the cases (they may be on scholarship for all I know, but it doesn't matter to these people). I heard the movie "Parasite" covered classism, although I didn't see it. The irony about classism here is this place has one of the lowest gini coefficients (i.e. income disparity is actually pretty low).

A few of those import cases are actual foreigners. I think there was one from France yesterday. So, the missus warns me there's a bit of a backlash brewing against whitey and she read me the Riot Act about wearing a mask in public. So, I've been wearing one the last few days.

Anyway, small stuff compared to what's happening in many places. Good luck to all of you.

Cheers,
CB

[Cap Mandrake]

ORIGINAL: CaptBeefheart

Rader: Good luck to you. Where are you based?

Korea Update: We are getting about 100 new cases a day, with about 300 recoveries. About 20% of those new cases are imports. That has caused some social trouble. There's a lot of class envy here, and a lot of those import cases are Korean students living in the rich area of Gangnam (literally "south of the river") in Seoul coming back from New York City. So, you may imagine the social media sphere is upset at these "rich spoiled kids" adding to the cases (they may be on scholarship for all I know, but it doesn't matter to these people). I heard the movie "Parasite" covered classism, although I didn't see it. The irony about classism here is this place has one of the lowest gini coefficients (i.e. income disparity is actually pretty low).

A few of those import cases are actual foreigners. I think there was one from France yesterday. So, the missus warns me there's a bit of a backlash brewing against whitey and she read me the Riot Act about wearing a mask in public. So, I've been wearing one the last few days.

Anyway, small stuff compared to what's happening in many places. Good luck to all of you.

Cheers,
CB

"Gangnam style"

[rader]

ORIGINAL: CaptBeefheart

Rader: Good luck to you. Where are you based?

Thanks! I'm in Los Angeles.

[Sammy5IsAlive]

Thought this was a little interesting. Satellite images of light pollution in Europe - have a look at northern Italy and also Holland and Belgium which seem to be reporting fairly high case numbers proportionate to their populations:

https://www.telesurenglish.net/__export ... 483346.jpg

Just as a point of interest I think the narrow line of light running N-S are the Rhone/Rhine rivers and associated industrial areas.

By way of comparision this is a similar image of the US

https://www.nasa.gov/sites/default/file ... 38a1_o.jpg


It may well mean nothing - maybe they just like to leave their lights on in northern Italy.

[CaptBeefheart]

ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake

Trusting the Chicoms to accurately report their Covid-19 cases is like expecting Trump AND Obama to play a round of golf and both accurately record their scores.

These are the same homies who suppressed reports of an outbreak, did the same exact damn thing with SARS, disappeared 21 million Chinese cell phone accounts during the time of the epidemic, hid the Tienanmen massacre and the epic disaster of the Cultural Revolution AND put a toxic chemical in dog food to fake protein testing.

You forgot a company putting melanine in baby formula causing kidney failure and death for many babies which was covered up by local officials. You make a good point.

Cheers,
CB

[CaptBeefheart]

ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake

"Gangnam style"

If I never hear that song again it'll still be too soon.

Cheers,
CB

[alanschu]

ORIGINAL: Sammy5IsAlive

Thought this was a little interesting. Satellite images of light pollution in Europe - have a look at northern Italy and also Holland and Belgium which seem to be reporting fairly high case numbers proportionate to their populations:

https://www.telesurenglish.net/__export ... 483346.jpg


By way of comparision this is a similar image of the US

https://www.nasa.gov/sites/default/file ... 38a1_o.jpg


It may well mean nothing - maybe they just like to leave their lights on in northern Italy.

There is definitely some regional aspects. You can't quite see it as it's just chopped off, but light map of Alberta is actually pretty intense for its population levels. In part because there was a philosophy of having the area be one of the best lit areas in the world (for some reason...).

[BBfanboy]

ORIGINAL: alanschu

ORIGINAL: Sammy5IsAlive

Thought this was a little interesting. Satellite images of light pollution in Europe - have a look at northern Italy and also Holland and Belgium which seem to be reporting fairly high case numbers proportionate to their populations:

https://www.telesurenglish.net/__export ... 483346.jpg


By way of comparision this is a similar image of the US

https://www.nasa.gov/sites/default/file ... 38a1_o.jpg


It may well mean nothing - maybe they just like to leave their lights on in northern Italy.

There is definitely some regional aspects. You can't quite see it as it's just chopped off, but light map of Alberta is actually pretty intense for its population levels. In part because there was a philosophy of having the area be one of the best lit areas in the world (for some reason...).

Like North Dakota, Alberta has bright spots because they flare gas in their oilfields and refineries.

[BBfanboy]

ORIGINAL: Sammy5IsAlive

ORIGINAL: Chickenboy

ORIGINAL: USSAmerica




Already there as of 6:00 pm, eastern. [:(]

It shouldn't be a surprise that, as our diagnostic testing capabilities get rolling in earnest, our positive case count climbs. We *could* be like Russia (and Japan) and neither test nor report, but I'd really feel better with achieving 'ground truth' as soon as possible.

Like stock markets-the uncertainty is the worst part. I'd much rather have 'bad news' (higher case counts via testing) than uncertainty.

Does anybody here with strong Google-fu have access to the denominator of the equation? Numerator= number of cases positive. Denominator= number of (approved) tests conducted overall.

I don't think there is anything complicated behind the rapid increase of cases in the US. The USA covers pretty much the same land mass as Europe. Europe's land mass is split between c.50 (depending on which countries you count) different nations.

As things are being reported at the moment, Italy; Spain; Germany; France and the UK are reported separately. If you transplanted them onto a map of the US they would all fit within your single country. The total cases of those five countries is c224,000.

That said, on the last chart I saw of case increases by region (i.e. showing Lombardy, Madrid, Hubei etc) New York's trend was looking the worst of anywhere. I think it could get very bad, very fast there. More positively Washington and maybe California were looking as if they may have 'flattened the curve'. Will try and find the chart and post it.

Edit - this is the chart I was talking about - I don't know how to embed it so if somebody sends me a PM with instructions I'll edit the post show it shows properly. Even more worryingly for NY it is showing deaths and not cases. In case anyone is wondering Catalonia is essentially Barcalona and Ile-De-France is essentially Paris.

https://www.ft.com/__origami/service/im ... width=1260

That has to be an old chart. The line for New York ends around 10 days into the X axis. New York has been fighting this much longer than this and definitely had its 10th death from the virus more than 10 days ago.

[Chickenboy]

ORIGINAL: BBfanboy
That has to be an old chart. The line for New York ends around 10 days into the X axis. New York has been fighting this much longer than this and definitely had its 10th death from the virus more than 10 days ago.

Good point. Although the bottom of the visual has a time stamp of 3.26.20. Not sure how to jibe the discrepancy.

[Sammy5IsAlive]

ORIGINAL: BBfanboy

That has to be an old chart. The line for New York ends around 10 days into the X axis. New York has been fighting this much longer than this and definitely had its 10th death from the virus more than 10 days ago.

Wikipedia has NY state as reporting total 12 deaths on 16/03.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_coro ... rk_(state)

[Chickenboy]

I like to compare Apples to Apples, so it's my preference to compare per capita figures. I know we're about 340 MM people here domestically, and that a "bad" flu season would be circa 50,000 deaths. That equals 147/MM people here. The far right column in this chart shows whose mortality level is approaching or exceeding that subjective comparative threshhold.

Unfortunately, it looks like Italy is already there and will probably far exceed that threshhold. I would venture that Spain will be there soon too...[:(]