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This map is now interactive! It shows a rollover of the name of each county, number positive, and number/1,000 in that county. Very useful, I think.

I scrolled over one of the least densely populated areas I know of in the US, the SE corner of OR, in Malheur county. Even they have one case. This is the kind of territory that has signs when you leave a town (usually consisting of 5-10 buildings) that tell you how far it is to the next gas station.

I once got stuck out there with a 69 Buick in the ditch thanks to a herd of Black Angus cows crossing the road at dusk. Didn't hit any, and the car was so durably built it had only some cosmetic damage. Some BLM guys drove by and stopped, used the winch to pull it out. If not for them I could have been sleeping in it that night.

Anyway, check out the link and your local county if you're in the states. Wish there was one like this of the UK.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/202 ... pe=Article


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obvert thanks, I was looking for more comprehensive charts. The one I used yesterday was because of time limits. I had a chainsaw to fix.

Hope you got it working.

I'm on my way out to dig some new post-holes for my shed extension. Gotta take advantage of nap time around here or I can't get anything done. [;)]
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The Department of Justice is remaining vigilant in detecting, investigating, and prosecuting wrongdoing related to the crisis. In a memo to U.S. Attorneys, Attorney General Barr said, "The pandemic is dangerous enough without wrongdoers seeking to profit from public panic and this sort of conduct cannot be tolerated."

https://www.justice.gov/coronavirus

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Report it to the FBI at tips.fbi.gov
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obvert thanks, I was looking for more comprehensive charts. The one I used yesterday was because of time limits. I had a chainsaw to fix.

Hope you got it working.

I'm on my way out to dig some new post-holes for my shed extension. Gotta take advantage of nap time around here or I can't get anything done. [;)]


Yep, it's running now. Have a good day digging!







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My county is still Cases:1






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Two weeks ago, I posted "as goes Italy, so goes the world." A week ago, I added, "As goes NYC, so goes the USA."

I hope JohnD might update how the fight is going in NYC. Last week, he offered some hope that the numbers might be turning. I hope that's still the case. I know mortality peak lags behind active cases peak, but it's hard to get through all the chaff at the underlying numbers.

Regarding Italy, there's little doubt the curves in both categories have flattened, though the numbers remain stubbornly high.

That same trend will likely hold true in the US, when the time comes for flattening. In many/most places we may flatten the curve significantly but at the cost of lengthening the x-axis (an outcome many charts showed a few weeks ago, some of them posted in here). This was nevertheless our best option in fighting this given what we know and the possibility/likelihood that with additional time we'll be better able to go into Round 2, if there is one.
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Coronavirus Live Updates: Economic Picture Darkens as Detected Infections Approach One Million
2AP20

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/02/worl ... -news.html


"Whole sectors of the economy have been battered, and millions of people have lost their jobs. There is no precedent for the current fiscal challenge, and economic forecasts increasingly pointed to a deeper and longer lasting slump than previously imagined."






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The government is inefficient and cumbersome
Perhaps, but I don't see anybody else stepping up today. Folks seem pretty happy that me and my daughter (Veterans Administration)are putting on our PPE and putting ourselves in high risk areas to keep the world running. Not to mention my other daughter (pharmacy tech in a town with 800 cases). I personally played a major role in the construction in the largest 911 call taking and dispatch center in the world. And it is preforming magnificently although we are starting to run out of healthy folks to man it. Yes, I'm inefficient and cumbersome but if me and my coworkerks don't show up in NYC and other places this morning what do we have? I'm from the government. I'm here to help. There will be tens of thousands of 911 calls today and many of those calls are from people having the worst, and perhaps last, days of their lives. And someone, from the government, will show up to help. Not a lot of those folks are looking to shrink government to a size you could drown in a bathtub. I don’t see anyone from private industry showing up to take my place on the line today.

Not the time to blast government, John. I absolutely agree. Of course, the Mayor is not wasting any time blasting the Federales, is he? Arguably, supermarket workers ARE on the front lines. Ditto medical and even pharmacy staffs...etc. etc. In a public health emergency you need government. It's analogous to Chicom landing craft dropping their ramps on Long Island.

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Experts tell White House coronavirus can spread through talking or even just breathing
Thu April 2, 2020


https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/02/health/a ... index.html


"A prestigious scientific panel told the White House Wednesday night that research shows coronavirus can be spread not just by sneezes or coughs, but also just by talking, or possibly even just breathing.
"While the current [coronavirus] specific research is limited, the results of available studies are consistent with aerosolization of virus from normal breathing," according to the letter, written by Dr. Harvey Fineberg, chairman of a committee with the National Academy of Sciences.
Fineberg told CNN that he will wear start wearing a mask when he goes to the grocery story."


grocery story????????????????????






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I did get one interesting number from an ER nurse in NJ. 85% of the cases that go on vents do not survive. Now that might be because the ERs are only taking the worst cases right now. Also, NYC EMS is no longer transporting cardiac cases without a pulse. You will see it reported as “no longer taking cardiac cases”. Not exactly true. If you have a pulse or they can get one back to you your are going to get a ride
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Why is New Orleans' Coronavirus death rate 7 times New York's? Obesity is a factor
April 2, 2020

https://www.thejakartapost.com/life/202 ... actor.html


"The coronavirus has been a far deadlier threat in New Orleans than the rest of the United States, with a per-capita death rate much higher than in New York City. Doctors, public health officials and available data say the Big Easy's high levels of obesity and related ailments may be part of the problem."


"The prevalence of obesity, diabetes, hypertension and heart disease in New Orleans and Louisiana plays into that, she said."






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"Some 97% of those killed by COVID-19 in Louisiana had a preexisting condition, according to the state health department. Diabetes was seen in 40% of the deaths, obesity in 25%, chronic kidney disease in 23% and cardiac problems in 21%."






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My DEATH CHART was posted for discussion of comparison. It's NOT my creation nor my beliefs.

Modern politics is for CHILDREN. I've got news for both sides - "America is over" been heading that way for awhile.



"In 2019, around 42.4 million pregnancies ended in abortion worldwide.

According to Worldometers, which tabulates global statistics on abortion procedures based on the most current available figures from the World Health Organization, 40 to 50 million abortions are performed annually worldwide."

45 million /3


The main point of posting that chart: YOU GONNA DIE



The behavior Ive seen in public from people is DISGUSTING. And what we are allowing fear to do.....

What's going gonna happen when CV19 sends us Turn2 in the fall.

It puts things in perspective.


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Yes, please keep posting about abortions. We haven't discussed that enough, have we?
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“The ability to observe without evaluating is the highest form of intelligence”, - Jiddu Krishnamurti. Indian philosopher



Militarily this keeps things clear, until a decision is needed.






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“Viruses are themselves an enigma that exist on the edges of life. They are not simply small bacteria. Bacteria consist of only one cell, but they are fully alive. Each has a metabolism, requires food, produces waste, and reproduces by division.
Viruses do not eat or burn oxygen for energy. They do not engage in any process that could be considered metabolic. They do not produce waste. They do not have sex. They make no side products, by accident or design. They do not even reproduce independently. They are less than a fully living organism but more than an inert collection of chemicals

“Whatever the origin, a virus has only one function: to replicate itself. But unlike other life forms (if a virus is considered a life form), a virus does not even do that itself. It invades cells that have energy and then, like some alien puppet master, it subverts them, takes them over, forces them to make thousands, and in some cases hundreds of thousands, of new viruses. The power to do this lies in their genes.”

“Whenever an organism reproduces, its genes try to make exact copies of themselves. But sometimes mistakes (mutations) occur in this process.
This is true whether the genes belong to people, plants, or viruses. The more advanced the organism, however, the more mechanisms exist to prevent mutations. A person mutates at a much slower rate than bacteria, bacteria mutates at a much slower rate than a virus - and a DNA virus mutates at a much slower rate than an RNA virus.
DNA has a kind of built-in proofreading mechanism to cut down on copying mistakes. RNA has no proofreading mechanism whatsoever, no way to protect against mutation. So viruses that use RNA to carry their genetic information mutate much faster (from 10,000 to 1 million times faster) than any DNA virus.
Different RNA viruses mutate at different rates as well. A few mutate so rapidly that virologists consider them not so much a population of copies of the same virus as what they call a 'quasi species' or a 'mutant swarm.”

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Virus: Knock, Knock

Cell membrane:"Who's there?"

Virus: "mRNA"






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Falvo said:
Even happier news are the PTSD that will hit the whole World when all of this will be over. Don't fool yourself in thinking otherwise: we will be all suffering from PTSD (**). Doctors and nurses will be the hardest hit, then the Police/Army, politicians (no matter what your opinion is about them and what they are doing, a large number is sleeping for three hours/day while taking decisions that will affect tens of millions of people), and then us.

Man, did you nail that. Imagine all the decisions to let people die for lack of ventilators. All the family members who can't be with their sick loved ones. It's a freaking nightmare. I am not sleeping well and we are not in the worst of it by any means here. At the hospital Monday the Ob Nurse Practitioner gave me s*** for wearing fresh gloves to type on the common keyboard that 500 people use a day. "I'm getting tired of YOU DOCTORS not taking your gloves off after going into patient rooms". I wanted, literally, to kill her. I chanted silently to myself..."hare krishna, hare hare, hare lama" then I couldn't remember the next part but the murderous rage was subsiding.
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A Million N95 Masks Are Coming From China---on the Patriots' Plane
3 hrs ago
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/compani ... li=BBnb7Kz

"At 3:38 a.m. Wednesday morning, the New England Patriots’ team plane departed from an unusual locale: Shenzhen, China. On board the Boeing 767, in the cargo hold that used to be home to Tom Brady’s duffel bags, were 1.2 million N95 masks bound for the U.S."






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Falvo said:
Even happier news are the PTSD that will hit the whole World when all of this will be over. Don't fool yourself in thinking otherwise: we will be all suffering from PTSD (**). Doctors and nurses will be the hardest hit, then the Police/Army, politicians (no matter what your opinion is about them and what they are doing, a large number is sleeping for three hours/day while taking decisions that will affect tens of millions of people), and then us.

Man, did you nail that. Imagine all the decisions to let people die for lack of ventilators. All the family members who can't be with their sick loved ones. It's a freaking nightmare. I am not sleeping well and we are not in the worst of it by any means here. At the hospital Monday the Ob Nurse Practitioner gave me s*** for wearing fresh gloves to type on the common keyboard that 500 people use a day. "I'm getting tired of YOU DOCTORS not taking your gloves off after going into patient rooms". I wanted, literally, to kill her. I chanted silently to myself..."hare krishna, hare hare, hare lama" then I couldn't remember the next part but the murderous rage was subsiding.

Stress - the inability to choke the shit out of someone who so desperately needs it.

You should have informed her "I just put a fresh pair of gloves on so I would not possibly transmit the corona virus so YOU would not get it."
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