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******* *****

7 letters space then 5 letters..."An unflattering English expression used to describe a disfavored group"

Anyone got it? Give us the first letter maybe.
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******* *****

7 letters space then 5 letters..."An unflattering English expression used to describe a disfavored group"

Anyone got it? Give us the first letter maybe.
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N****** T****

Ooooh its just like hangman!
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Fauci throws down the gauntlet and shocks the genteel epidemiological community by accusing the Chicoms of a "delay in transparency" [X(]

He's being far too polite. Unless the CCP cellphone was discharged or the mail was lost most people would call this "lying"

During an interview broadcast on Friday’s “PBS NewsHour,” Coronavirus Task Force member Dr. Anthony Fauci stated that without China’s “delay in transparency” on the coronavirus, “other countries would have maybe been more quick on the trigger to try and inhibit travel from China to their country.” Fauci also stated that nothing “would have prevented the spread of this virus.”

Fauci stated that in “early January…it became clear that what the Chinese had claimed originally, that this was just a virus that jumped from an animal reservoir to a human, and wasn’t being transmitted from human to human, well, it became very clear pretty quickly that that was not the case. … And when the numbers started coming in as to what the morbidity and the mortality was, it was during that period in early to mid-January that it became clear to me that this was not just another SARS, it wasn’t another MERS, or Middle East Respiratory Syndrome.”


He added, “I don’t think anything would have prevented the spread of this virus. Once it emerged into society, with its capability of efficient spread and morbidity and mortality, that was it. But what could have been different…is that, if we had known that this was highly transmissible early on, when it was just in China, I think other countries would have maybe been more quick on the trigger to try and inhibit travel from China to their country. … So, that delay in transparency, I think, likely had an impact on what I just said, the awareness that this could seed the rest of the world.”

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The Chinese kinda remind me of a scene with Robert Duvall in Joe Kidd (great movie btw). He (Frank Harlan) and his thugs stop at a Mexican woman's (Helen Sanchez) house who they suspect of supporting Luis Chama, the man he wants dead.

After rousting around her house and Lamarr finding her gun stash, Duvall finally asks her, "What do you think, honey?" (paraphrased)

Helen Sanchez' reply to him is "I think you are going to do what you want".


About the only thing I can say with certainty about the Chinese is that they missed the last (industrial) revolution; and they will do everything within their power to direct and own the next.
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The Chinese kinda remind me of a scene with Robert Duvall in Joe Kidd (great movie btw). He (Frank Harlan) and his thugs stop at a Mexican woman's (Helen Sanchez) house who they suspect of supporting Luis Chama, the man he wants dead.

After rousting around her house and Lamarr finding her gun stash, Duvall finally asks her, "What do you think, honey?" (paraphrased)

Helen Sanchez' reply to him is "I think you are going to do what you want".


About the only thing I can say with certainty about the Chinese communist government is that they missed the last (industrial) revolution; and they will do everything within their power to direct and own the next.
I altered your post slightly. I have lots of Chinese friends, indeed loved ones, and there is a big difference between that communist government and the vast majority of people who are Chinese. [8D]
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While it is true the governor said that, it was taken out of context and misrepresented by the press (naturally).

Previously, the governor had said (on at least two occasions I listened to) that the virus could spread from asymptomatic sick.

Wednesday, his statement was with respect to asymptomatic people who will never show symptoms. IE, some Covid sufferers will never show symptoms and never get sick. That's a pretty new finding and the governor was making that point but the press got all excited because they live on gotcha moments - but they were the ones who were got, though most listeners won't ever know it.

The statewide edict almost perfectly matches most of the county and municipal ordinances that were already in effect. I'm not aware of any major differences, though there may be some here and there.

I've looked at all articles I can find that relate to this story. I haven't seen one yet that takes anything out of context. Most give a good paragraph of his speech verbatim.

This is one that has a short piece noting that this evidence was out there for some time, and most places around the world and in the states were acting on it. (my bold)

In Georgia, where at least 154 people have died of COVID-19, Republican Governor Brian Kemp on Wednesday told residents to prepare for a shelter-in-place order beginning on Friday. Governor Kemp’s announcement came weeks after medical professionals warned coronavirus infections would explode across Georgia without strict social distancing measures.

Gov. Brian Kemp: “What we’ve been telling people, from directives from the CDC, for weeks now, that if you start feeling bad, stay home. Those individuals could have been infecting people before they ever felt bad. But we didn’t know that until the last 24 hours. And as Dr. Toomey told me, she goes, 'This is a game changer.'”
In fact, a report in The New England Journal of Medicine published in late January warned asymptomatic people can spread the coronavirus, and the finding has informed public policy worldwide for weeks.


The mistrust of the press has dire consequences right now, as we've seen with students ignoring warnings and going on spring break, people going about business as usual in some areas with direct local or state directives to stay at home, and in the brash and more subtle ways that people ignore protection and distancing.

Georgia happens to have some very dense concentrations of this virus around right now and it seems this statewide order is coming a bit late. They may not have known asymptomatic cases could transmit the disease, but as government leaders who can influence life or death for millions of people, they should have. I hope that people have been paying attention to the media, the warnings, and doing this themselves. The travel map on the left below does show that some were not over the past week (darker indicating more movement).



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Signed up to be an NHS volunteer last week.

Got my confirmation through so will be "on call" for transport related issues on Monday.

I used to work for the NHS and absolutely it was the most boring job I have ever had! Sure as hell its not going to be at the moment.
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N****** Trash
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N****** Trash
obrain seems to be missing.

I did not know the first one.
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Signed up to be an NHS volunteer last week.

Got my confirmation through so will be "on call" for transport related issues on Monday.

I used to work for the NHS and absolutely it was the most boring job I have ever had! Sure as hell its not going to be at the moment.

Thank you sir. Be safe!
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ORIGINAL: Orm

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N****** Trash
obrain seems to be missing.

I did not know the first one.
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No, I was being polite. Naughty Twits doesn't really cut it, does it? It's not difficult to work out though, its just very basic Anglo-Saxon beginning with F and... well you know the rest. It describes these selfish bastards appropriately. Those two young nurses dying yesterday really hit home - if it didn't before - how much potential danger my two nephews are in on the front line.

Sad times that need people pulling together for the common good [:(]
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How about Nobrain Twats?
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How about Nobrain Twats?
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Yes that works, but it doesn't provide one with the satisfaction a certain word provides. Sometimes, the situation requires that word to be deployed with all the venom and bile one can muster.

It won't make a bit of difference to them, but it helps to release the tension.
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Excerpted some deep thoughts from the Nextdoor ap:

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I wonder if that guy has ever visited the planet earth?

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Obvert, I mistrust the press because of its overt and admitted bias over many years, including issues that are particularly important to me but admittedly not to those aligned with viewpoints of the press. My mistrust of the press is warranted and certainly doesn't pose any threat to any person.

Regarding the governor, as I said before, I heard him specifically talk about asymptomatic people spreading the virus as far back as two or three weeks ago. His comment a few days back was specifically in context of the further more recent development that asymptomatic suffers may never develop symptoms. This was very clear to those who listen to the full stream of things instead of popping in midstream unaware of prior statements that give context and accuracy. (Or do you really think that a governor of one of the mot populous states is that clueless?)

It's been said over and over in here that Georgia specifically left it to local jurisdictions to impose regulations and that they did so early and widespread. You know, for instance, that Georgia schools closed before England's.

Some of the Georgia outbreaks came very early, before those in most other places. Albany, in the SW corner, had two funerals that resulted in big outbreaks starting weeks ago. And Athens, Clarke County, in NE Georgia was one of the earliest and most stringent in imposing countermeasures, yet now has a fairly stout outbreak.

In an interview on local radio Wednesday, I explained why Georgia has been handling this very well. Not perfectly, but very well. I'm glad to be here.

I hope my sentiments don't amount to "Georgia exceptionalism." I think many/most other states are handling things very well. Most (all?) states are using their best judgment to, in good faith, respond to a novel situation.




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While it is true the governor said that, it was taken out of context and misrepresented by the press (naturally).

Previously, the governor had said (on at least two occasions I listened to) that the virus could spread from asymptomatic sick.

Wednesday, his statement was with respect to asymptomatic people who will never show symptoms. IE, some Covid sufferers will never show symptoms and never get sick. That's a pretty new finding and the governor was making that point but the press got all excited because they live on gotcha moments - but they were the ones who were got, though most listeners won't ever know it.

The statewide edict almost perfectly matches most of the county and municipal ordinances that were already in effect. I'm not aware of any major differences, though there may be some here and there.

I've looked at all articles I can find that relate to this story. I haven't seen one yet that takes anything out of context. Most give a good paragraph of his speech verbatim.

This is one that has a short piece noting that this evidence was out there for some time, and most places around the world and in the states were acting on it. (my bold)

In Georgia, where at least 154 people have died of COVID-19, Republican Governor Brian Kemp on Wednesday told residents to prepare for a shelter-in-place order beginning on Friday. Governor Kemp’s announcement came weeks after medical professionals warned coronavirus infections would explode across Georgia without strict social distancing measures.

Gov. Brian Kemp: “What we’ve been telling people, from directives from the CDC, for weeks now, that if you start feeling bad, stay home. Those individuals could have been infecting people before they ever felt bad. But we didn’t know that until the last 24 hours. And as Dr. Toomey told me, she goes, 'This is a game changer.'”
In fact, a report in The New England Journal of Medicine published in late January warned asymptomatic people can spread the coronavirus, and the finding has informed public policy worldwide for weeks.


The mistrust of the press has dire consequences right now, as we've seen with students ignoring warnings and going on spring break, people going about business as usual in some areas with direct local or state directives to stay at home, and in the brash and more subtle ways that people ignore protection and distancing.

Georgia happens to have some very dense concentrations of this virus around right now and it seems this statewide order is coming a bit late. They may not have known asymptomatic cases could transmit the disease, but as government leaders who can influence life or death for millions of people, they should have. I hope that people have been paying attention to the media, the warnings, and doing this themselves. The travel map on the left below does show that some were not over the past week (darker indicating more movement).
"Rats set fire to Mr. Cooper’s store in Fort Valley. No damage done." Columbus (Ga) Enquirer-Sun, October 2, 1880.
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It's good to know that I am simply a dipsh*t for trying to follow the news and make a comment about it.

Edit: I reckon I should believe that there is no covid-19 outbreak. I reckon I should not believe that the governor issued a statewide edict for Georgia - after all, he did not personally tell me.
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What?! [&:]

Edit: Thank you for the clarification. [:)]
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