OT: Corona virus

[MakeeLearn]

As in CR"S post


Cuomo says he wants New York 'to reopen as soon as possible'
6 hrs ago



https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics ... li=BBnb7Kz



"Brutal storms target East after tornadoes batter South
Stephanopoulos tests positive for COVID-19 as wife recovers

Gov. Andrew Cuomo (D) said Sunday that he wants New York to reopen non-essential businesses and public places "as soon as possible.""


"88,000 cases of coronavirus have been confirmed in the state, the highest of anywhere in the country. More than 9,300 people have died from the disease across New York state."

[mind_messing]

ORIGINAL: Lokasenna

ORIGINAL: mind_messing

ORIGINAL: Lokasenna




I don't share your confidence in this conjecture.

Agreed. Accurate determination of cause of death is not as simple as would appear, and there's often a considerable time lag in order to reconcile the medical and government records.

I don't even mean accuracy in determining the cause of death.

I mean bothering in the first place.

After the revelation that the majority of coroners are elected, I am inclined to agree!

[MakeeLearn]

Factbox: Coronavirus spread closes North American meat plants
8 hrs ago



https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/compani ... li=BBnb7Kz


"CHICAGO (Reuters) - Major meat companies in the United States and Canada have closed plants temporarily due to cases of the new coronavirus and concerns about its spread. "

[witpqs]

ORIGINAL: Lokasenna

ORIGINAL: mind_messing

ORIGINAL: Lokasenna




I don't share your confidence in this conjecture.

Agreed. Accurate determination of cause of death is not as simple as would appear, and there's often a considerable time lag in order to reconcile the medical and government records.

I don't even mean accuracy in determining the cause of death.

I mean bothering in the first place.

Right.

[MakeeLearn]

'It's positively alpine!': Disbelief in big cities as air pollution falls
11 Apr 2020


https://www.theguardian.com/environment ... oronavirus


"A nationwide lockdown imposed across India almost two weeks ago to stop the spread of the coronavirus – the largest lockdown of its kind attempted anywhere – has led to widespread chaos and suffering, especially among the country’s 300 million poor. Yet in Delhi, the world’s most polluted city, it has also resulted in some of the freshest air the capital has seen in decades."

"It is not just Delhi experiencing the clearest skies in years. "

[Cap Mandrake]

Rolling restoration of economic activity on a regional basis is reasonable. Keep the schools closed until September..professional and college sports...concerts...but you have to start opening up restaurants and aerospace firms and barbershops etc. etc

Having the federal government borrow money and send it out in checks is not an economy. It's Venezuela scaled up to 330 million people.

[MakeeLearn]

North Carolina woman gets coronavirus despite staying home for three weeks
April 13, 2020

https://nypost.com/2020/04/13/nc-woman- ... ree-weeks/



"A North Carolina coronavirus patient said she was infected despite staying home for the three weeks leading up to her diagnosis last Thursday, a report said.

“This is the sickest I’ve ever been and it’s the most scared I’ve ever been,” Rachel Brummert told WCNC. “I’m absolutely terrified.”

Brummert, who suffers from an autoimmune disorder, told the outlet that she last left her Charlotte home for a trip to the pharmacy in mid-March."


"n one occasion, a woman who has since tested positive for the illness dropped off groceries on Brummert’s doorstep, the report said.

While Brummert didn’t come into contact with the woman, she said she retrieved the bags of food from her porch without gloves.

“I really thought I was doing everything right,” Brummert said.

“I’ve never had anything like this before,” she said. “I’ve had the flu. This is not the flu. It’s a whole other monster.”"

[MakeeLearn]

ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake

Rolling restoration of economic activity on a regional basis is reasonable. Keep the schools closed until September..professional and college sports...concerts...but you have to start opening up restaurants and aerospace firms and barbershops etc. etc

Having the federal government borrow money and send it out in checks is not an economy. It's Venezuela scaled up to 330 million people.

Why borrow money from "The Creature from Jekyll Island". Why even go through the expense of printing. Just enter numbers into a textbox on a computer.

[MakeeLearn]

I spent hours yesterday trying to explain to someone why they could not be taken to the emergency room for a minor injury because of CV19. It seemed like the more I explained, the more they wanted to go.

[MakeeLearn]

U.S. coronavirus death toll highest in the world
3 hrs ago


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/us-co ... li=BBnb7Kz

"The United States now has the lead with the most deaths from the coronavirus outbreak of any nation worldwide with nearly 22,000 lives lost."


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Is one reason because we have the healthiest environment for unhealthy people?

[Cap Mandrake]

ORIGINAL: MakeeLearn

ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake

Rolling restoration of economic activity on a regional basis is reasonable. Keep the schools closed until September..professional and college sports...concerts...but you have to start opening up restaurants and aerospace firms and barbershops etc. etc

Having the federal government borrow money and send it out in checks is not an economy. It's Venezuela scaled up to 330 million people.

Why borrow money from "The Creature from Jekyll Island". Why even go through the expense of printing. Just enter numbers into a textbox on a computer.

That is essentially what the Fed does with "quantitative easing". They just made up a fancy term that nobody understands. They are waaaaay smarter than Hugo Chavez was. The Fed was "tightening"(taking funny money off the books) before the pandemic...not that is out the window.

[Canoerebel]

I don't have confidence in Lokasenna's conjectures about my conjectures. [:)]

[Cap Mandrake]

ORIGINAL: MakeeLearn

U.S. coronavirus death toll highest in the world
3 hrs ago


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/us-co ... li=BBnb7Kz

"The United States now has the lead with the most deaths from the coronavirus outbreak of any nation worldwide with nearly 22,000 lives lost."


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Is one reason because we have the healthiest environment for unhealthy people?

Well, the Chinese probably had more...they just swept the ashes under the rug.

[Canoerebel]

+1

Arkansas reported two deaths yesterday. Two today.

They're not going to, nor do they need to, maintain a lock down there. Well, they never did close non-essential businesses nor issue a statewide shelter-in-place order (much to the angst of the media, those who buy into its views, and those willing to impose their notions on others).

ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake

Rolling restoration of economic activity on a regional basis is reasonable. Keep the schools closed until September..professional and college sports...concerts...but you have to start opening up restaurants and aerospace firms and barbershops etc. etc

Having the federal government borrow money and send it out in checks is not an economy. It's Venezuela scaled up to 330 million people.

[Lokasenna]

ORIGINAL: Canoerebel

+1

Arkansas reported two deaths yesterday. Two today.

They're not going to, nor do they need to, maintain a lock down there. Well, they never did close non-essential businesses nor issue a statewide shelter-in-place order (much to the angst of the media, those who buy into its views, and those willing to impose their notions on others).

Public health officials think otherwise.

Not imposing mandatory distancing is how this became a pandemic in the first place.

Viruses don't care about state lines. One bad apple spoils the whole bunch is applicable here. We're all in the same boat, and we're only as strong as our weakest link.


Insert further hackneyed sayings here.

[mind_messing]

ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake

ORIGINAL: MakeeLearn

U.S. coronavirus death toll highest in the world
3 hrs ago


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/us-co ... li=BBnb7Kz

"The United States now has the lead with the most deaths from the coronavirus outbreak of any nation worldwide with nearly 22,000 lives lost."


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Is one reason because we have the healthiest environment for unhealthy people?

Well, the Chinese probably had more...they just swept the ashes under the rug.

IIRC China has a higher rate of smokers compared to other countries as well.

ORIGINAL: Canoerebel

+1

Arkansas reported two deaths yesterday. Two today.

They're not going to, nor do they need to, maintain a lock down there. Well, they never did close non-essential businesses nor issue a statewide shelter-in-place order (much to the angst of the media, those who buy into its views, and those willing to impose their notions on others).

ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake

Rolling restoration of economic activity on a regional basis is reasonable. Keep the schools closed until September..professional and college sports...concerts...but you have to start opening up restaurants and aerospace firms and barbershops etc. etc

Having the federal government borrow money and send it out in checks is not an economy. It's Venezuela scaled up to 330 million people.

That strikes me as an exceptional social challenge for the US, given the individualistic social mindset. If Arkansas is open for business, but not Alabama, then the problem of enforcing effective restrictions becomes vastly more challenging to justify to the general public.

[witpqs]

ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake

ORIGINAL: MakeeLearn

U.S. coronavirus death toll highest in the world
3 hrs ago


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/us-co ... li=BBnb7Kz

"The United States now has the lead with the most deaths from the coronavirus outbreak of any nation worldwide with nearly 22,000 lives lost."


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Is one reason because we have the healthiest environment for unhealthy people?

Well, the Chinese probably had more...they just swept the ashes under the rug.

It is a very big rug. Didn't Mao say something like that?

[Lokasenna]

And here's the source to back up what I just said, straight from Fauci's mouth.

Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, has pushed for all 50 states to have stay-at-home orders. "If you look at what's going on in this country, I just don't understand why we're not doing that," he told CNN.

That sure sounds like doctor speak for "stop being stupid and taking needless risks."

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/dr-anthony ... 50-states/

But yes, I'm sure CBS misquoted what he said to CNN and everyone is misperceiving what he said because it happened to be on a CNN-hosted town hall.

Bonus link: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/stay-at-ho ... rs-states/

[RangerJoe]

ORIGINAL: Canoerebel

I don't have confidence in Lokasenna's conjectures about my conjectures. [:)]

Well, I no longer see his conjectures. Your conjectures seem fine to me.

[Canoerebel]

The folks who have gotten it consistently wrong are the ones who wish to impose their views on those who got it right.