Pacific War 3.0 (No Encircled please!)

[RangerJoe]

Bombard and bomb. Don't forget to shut down the airfield. Any supply hits will make it that much faster. Don't kill any units outside Chungking if you can avoid doing so.

[PaxMondo]

ORIGINAL: rader

And aircraft losses. The Zero is by far the most downed airplane type but it's also been doing almost all the work for the Japanese.

As well it should … wish I could get the IJA units into A6M as well. [:'(]

[traskott]

suscribed! good luck!

[rader]

I'm bombing Chungking heavily every day and getting something like ~10 supply hits which should be enough to destroy all the supply the Chinese produce. Yet his AV is actually increasing, meaning that he's recovering disabled squads.

I am wondering about the sequence of supply distribution. It's pretty clear to me that Chungking has zero supply in reserve in the base, but it produces 400 or more unstoppable supply every turn. Exactly when is this distributed to land units?

Possibility 1: The supply is distributed to hungry land units immediately as it's produced. This would mean that supply hits on airfields really have no effect on the Chungking garrison, because by the time the bombing phase comes about, all the supply has already been distributed to land units and there is none in the base to hit.

Possibility 2: The supply is distributed to hungry land units after it must sit in the base for a turn, or at least a bombing phase. This would mean that bombing Chungking can deprive the land units of every ounce of their supply, because it gets vaporized before the LCUs get fed.

Does anyone know which it is?

[rader]

Also, late war musings: It would seem logical that kamikaze aircraft can fly double their normal range because they don't have to save fuel for the return trip. Is this true, or are they restricted to their usual combat radius?

If kamikazes could fly double range, it would make some of those crappy short range trainer aircraft a lot more useful.

[PaxMondo]

ORIGINAL: rader

I'm bombing Chungking heavily every day and getting something like ~10 supply hits which should be enough to destroy all the supply the Chinese produce. Yet his AV is actually increasing, meaning that he's recovering disabled squads.

And/or units are showing up. CHI gets a few new units in '42, and then any lost units re-appear in CK after ~45 days. That's the reason to take CK. No replacement units will arrive …

[RangerJoe]

ORIGINAL: PaxMondo

ORIGINAL: rader

I'm bombing Chungking heavily every day and getting something like ~10 supply hits which should be enough to destroy all the supply the Chinese produce. Yet his AV is actually increasing, meaning that he's recovering disabled squads.

And/or units are showing up. CHI gets a few new units in '42, and then any lost units re-appear in CK after ~45 days. That's the reason to take CK. No replacement units will arrive …

I believe that the other replacement city is Chengtu.

[PaxMondo]

ORIGINAL: RangerJoe

ORIGINAL: PaxMondo

ORIGINAL: rader

I'm bombing Chungking heavily every day and getting something like ~10 supply hits which should be enough to destroy all the supply the Chinese produce. Yet his AV is actually increasing, meaning that he's recovering disabled squads.

And/or units are showing up. CHI gets a few new units in '42, and then any lost units re-appear in CK after ~45 days. That's the reason to take CK. No replacement units will arrive …

I believe that the other replacement city is Chengtu.

correct. you want to take it first …

[Alfred]

1.  Production and distribution occurs in the housekeeping pulse which follows the combat.
 
2.  The kamikaze mission does not increase an aircraft's range.
 
Alfred

[rader]

ORIGINAL: Alfred

1.  Production and distribution occurs in the housekeeping pulse which follows the combat.

2.  The kamikaze mission does not increase an aircraft's range.

Alfred

Wow thanks Alfred! So if I understand correctly, production occurs immediately before distribution, so the answer is effectively #1 and there is no way to prevent the Chinese LCUs from receiving their intrinsic supply by bombing. Thus I'm probably dropping a lot of ordnance on nothing [:'(]

[rader]

Burma.

This seems to be the bleeding open wound of Japan - the only place you share an irrevocable land border with the Allies, albeit one that's a bit difficult to use due to supply movement.

In the short run, I think it's important for Japan to hold it. In the long run, it seems to me a trap that risks having a big army cut off and a commitment that keeps your units tied up.

I think my plan is to hold the key Mandalay region until sometime in mid to late 1943. I can defend this clear area, and with strong artillery and reserves available (plus achievable air parity at least), I can probably defeat any Allied move here. But sometime around late 1943, I will probably voluntarily cede Burma to the Allies to conserve my forces for action elsewhere.

[PaxMondo]

ORIGINAL: rader

ORIGINAL: Alfred

1.  Production and distribution occurs in the housekeeping pulse which follows the combat.

2.  The kamikaze mission does not increase an aircraft's range.

Alfred

Wow thanks Alfred! So if I understand correctly, production occurs immediately before distribution, so the answer is effectively #1 and there is no way to prevent the Chinese LCUs from receiving their intrinsic supply by bombing. Thus I'm probably dropping a lot of ordnance on nothing [:'(]

Not nothing, you are lowering morale. keeping the units from recovering … it helps a lot

My experience is that there are diminishing returns though … something to consider …

[rader]

How is it lowering morale if I'm just bombing the airfield? Should I switch to bombing some ground troops too?

[rader]

Am I correct in assuming that there is no disadvantage to overloading my carriers a bit as long as I'm below 115%?

[Chickenboy]

ORIGINAL: rader

ORIGINAL: Alfred

1.  Production and distribution occurs in the housekeeping pulse which follows the combat.

2.  The kamikaze mission does not increase an aircraft's range.

Alfred

Wow thanks Alfred! So if I understand correctly, production occurs immediately before distribution, so the answer is effectively #1 and there is no way to prevent the Chinese LCUs from receiving their intrinsic supply by bombing. Thus I'm probably dropping a lot of ordnance on nothing [:'(]

As others have said, make sure you keep the airfields damaged. Not only will you get some supply hits, but engineers will preferentially repair the airfield versus rebuilding forts. After you / when you drop forts down from 6 to 5, you sure don't want to see them go back up again!

[rader]

ORIGINAL: Chickenboy

ORIGINAL: rader

ORIGINAL: Alfred

1.  Production and distribution occurs in the housekeeping pulse which follows the combat.

2.  The kamikaze mission does not increase an aircraft's range.

Alfred

Wow thanks Alfred! So if I understand correctly, production occurs immediately before distribution, so the answer is effectively #1 and there is no way to prevent the Chinese LCUs from receiving their intrinsic supply by bombing. Thus I'm probably dropping a lot of ordnance on nothing [:'(]

As others have said, make sure you keep the airfields damaged. Not only will you get some supply hits, but engineers will preferentially repair the airfield versus rebuilding forts. After you / when you drop forts down from 6 to 5, you sure don't want to see them go back up again!

Well, yeah but they are currently at 6 and with his obvious supply problems I doubt he's tried to go higher than that. I'm still bombing his airfields for supply but pretty sure it isn't doing anything because he doesn't have any (except intrinsic which is being distributed before I can get to it).

[RangerJoe]

Are you bombing his troops as well? That would also increase fatigue and disruption along with the bombardments. Eventually you should win with enough force, time, and patience.

[rader]

July 2, 1942.

A nice DD raid near the West Coast, within 1000 miles of San Francisco. Unfortunately, these tankers were empty, returning from the South Pacific.

[rader]

July 3, 1942. The fall of Chengtu.

Chungking won't be so easy...

[RangerJoe]

If you press "W" it would show hexside control to help understand the map and control of the hexes.