ORIGINAL: RFalvo69
ORIGINAL: Canoerebel
[In reply to RFalvo:]
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This is the third time a forumite has raised the "additional deaths" argument against those he disagrees with. That's....well, any word inserted is too charged. Put it this way - it's a loathsome way to try and make points, suggesting that others favor or are responsible for or will cause deaths.
I'll address this, because I think that it is an important point.
I disagree that this approach is "loathsome".
This virus is putting all of us in a very unique situation: we all could become a loaded gun; a gun that "shoots" when it wants, not us.
OK, I'll look inside my country only. As I told (dozens of pages ago) when Lombardy declared the quarantine scores of people "escaped" to Southern Italy. Right on cue, after the average incubation period, cases in S.Italy spiked. This is on those people.
Then me. A few days ago I suffered from a mild case of hay fever: mild running nose, coughing, red eyes and a mild fever, for two days.
Now,
rationally I knew that it was my usual hay fever... possibly. Truth was: "What if this is CODIV19?" And I didn't thought about me. I thought about my daughter, about her boyfriend, about her boyfriend's parents... and so on.
Like it or not, we all are now a potential viral scatter gun. You want to kill yourself? Fine. But don't involve others in this decision.
And all of this is
new: a new way for suffering and death to happen. It doesn't cancel the others. But, by not denying this, at least we can do something about this.
But, wait... let's pull back a bit and examine this "more people die under a bus than from Coronavirus" sentence that it is being passed around like a magic formula. Let's try to look at it from a different perspective.
You are the bus
driver.
You took an exam. You have procedures to follow. If you act recklessly you will cause for more people to suffer and die.
... you will cause for more people to suffer and die. On top of all other reasons.
There is a reason as why they nail you if you are DUIing.
Sorry, but this is how I see it. Men always fought (*) to reduce causes of death. Now there is a new one. What we can do? I'm open to suggestions, ideas and even criticism (as long as it is factual and constructive). I'm not open to consider our attitudes towards Coronavirus "political" or "too charged words to consider".
We.
Can.
Act.
Give me graphs but also give me
ideas. Ideas based on the hard facts, and actions based to these, not to vague "beliefs" born in another era, because the current one is unprecedented. The faster we recognise this, the sooner we will be across. Then we will think about the other bridges.
(*) Yes, I'm aware of the implicit irony. [:)]
; Julia Child
