Naval attack.

stormbringer3 · Post by **stormbringer3** » Sat Apr 18, 2020 2:30 pm

I've a Italian CL/DD Sqd adjacent to a British sub. When I right click to attack according to the manual I get "can't occupy same hex as enemy fleet." I'm confused, please help.
Thanks.

ncc1701e · Post by **ncc1701e** » Sat Apr 18, 2020 2:36 pm

Are you at war with UK? Strange it says enemy fleet, so I assume you are.

stormbringer3 · Post by **stormbringer3** » Sat Apr 18, 2020 2:39 pm

Yes.

stormbringer3 · Post by **stormbringer3** » Sat Apr 18, 2020 5:27 pm

I finally figured out the issue after going through the manual again. The sub wasn't next to a hex that was not all water. I kept looking at 15. Combat and not 8.3 Naval Units.

Dalwin · Post by **Dalwin** » Sat Apr 18, 2020 5:40 pm

ORIGINAL: stormbringer3

I finally figured out the issue after going through the manual again. The sub wasn't next to a hex that was not all water. I kept looking at 15. Combat and not 8.3 Naval Units.

Wait, are you saying that ships can only attack subs in coastal waters? That doesn't sound right at all.

PanzerMike · Post by **PanzerMike** » Sat Apr 18, 2020 5:46 pm

Escorts (corvettes, frigates, etc) attack subs when they raid convoy lanes.

stormbringer3 · Post by **stormbringer3** » Sat Apr 18, 2020 5:49 pm

Apparently so. The manual says that "only air groups, carrier groups or escorts protecting a convoy route may target a submarine group in any hex type."

PDiFolco · Post by **PDiFolco** » Sat Apr 18, 2020 5:57 pm

ORIGINAL: Dalwin

ORIGINAL: stormbringer3

I finally figured out the issue after going through the manual again. The sub wasn't next to a hex that was not all water. I kept looking at 15. Combat and not 8.3 Naval Units.
Wait, are you saying that ships can only attack subs in coastal waters? That doesn't sound right at all.

Yes, Patrol Groups should be able to attack subs anywhere...

RPKUPK · Post by **RPKUPK** » Sun Apr 19, 2020 12:47 pm

I agree.

ncc1701e · Post by **ncc1701e** » Sun Apr 19, 2020 1:27 pm

Seems fair. +1

AlvaroSousa · Post by **AlvaroSousa** » Sun Apr 19, 2020 1:34 pm

This isn't SC3 and that is not a mechanism I want to put in the game.

ncc1701e · Post by **ncc1701e** » Sun Apr 19, 2020 2:10 pm

Oh yes, I have not read correctly. So this brings one question. What is the name of the convoy lane used by the Italians to supply North Africa?

ncc1701e · Post by **ncc1701e** » Fri Apr 24, 2020 12:40 pm

ORIGINAL: ncc1701e

Oh yes, I have not read correctly. So this brings one question. What is the name of the convoy lane used by the Italians to supply North Africa?

Just to be sure, is it the Mediterranean convoy route that supply the Italian units in North Africa?
Because, if not, how the Italian are supposed to defend themselves against UK subs?

Thanks

OxfordGuy3 · Post by **OxfordGuy3** » Fri Apr 24, 2020 2:43 pm

ORIGINAL: ncc1701e

ORIGINAL: ncc1701e

Oh yes, I have not read correctly. So this brings one question. What is the name of the convoy lane used by the Italians to supply North Africa?

Just to be sure, is the Mediterranean convoy route that supply the Italian units in North Africa?
Because, if not, how the Italian are supposed to defend themselves against UK subs?

Build Convoy Escorts

ncc1701e · Post by **ncc1701e** » Fri Apr 24, 2020 2:47 pm

Oh yes, I can build Escorts. My question is to which route I must assign them?

stormbringer3 · Post by **stormbringer3** » Fri Apr 24, 2020 4:31 pm

I built an Italian Ground Attack Grp with Naval Air Training and I've already sunk two British subs. Right now I'm at Dec. 6, 1940 turn.

ncc1701e · Post by **ncc1701e** » Fri Apr 24, 2020 4:52 pm

ORIGINAL: stormbringer3

I built an Italian Ground Attack Grp with Naval Air Training and I've already sunk two British subs. Right now I'm at Dec. 6, 1940 turn.

This is indeed what I am doing as UK against Italian subs. Using carrier strikes and my air units to destroy the subs. But, this is only Air units.

So, here is the point. We are asked to build escorts to defend convoy routes. Fair.

But, for Italian in North Africa, what is the convoy route to defend for their supplies?
And, for UK in North Africa, what is the convoy route to defend for their supplies?

I fail to understand. Let's take examples. For Italian, how Tripoli harbor is supplied? For UK, how Alexandria harbor is supplied?

If we build escorts and there is no convoy route to defend, I am then questioning why Patrol Groups can't attack subs.

stormbringer3 · Post by **stormbringer3** » Fri Apr 24, 2020 5:08 pm

The only convoy route to which I was able to add Italian escorts was the Mediterranean.The other questions like how Tripoli harbor is supplied etc. I have no clue.

ncc1701e · Post by **ncc1701e** » Fri Apr 24, 2020 5:46 pm

And I have an immediate question. I have just invade the harbor of Misurata as UK. By which convoy route this harbor is supplied?

PanzerMike · Post by **PanzerMike** » Fri Apr 24, 2020 5:53 pm

Port are not supplied by convoy routes. Production is shipped by merchant Marine through convoy lanes, but supplies for front line troops are handled differently.

You don't see it on the map. You can interdict the supply chain however, by placing fleets near port or aircraft within range of the port. They will sink aupplies, potentially hurting the units dependent on the port supply.

I thought the game uses transports for these supplies instead of merchants. I think there was even a small chance a transport could be sunk in the case of successful Interdiction.

All of this on the top of my head, but I think that is the way it works.

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