OT: Corona virus

[MakeeLearn]

ORIGINAL: MakeeLearn

Cuomo Says 21 Percent of Those Tested in N.Y.C. Had Virus Antibodies
Apr 23, 2020

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/23/nyre ... pdate.html

"About 21 percent of roughly 1,300 people in New York City who were tested for coronavirus antibodies this week tested positive, Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo said on Thursday.

The results come from a state program that randomly tested 3,000 supermarket customers across New York State. Nearly 14 percent of those tests came back positive, Mr. Cuomo said.

If those numbers translate to the true incidence of coronavirus, they would mean that more than 1.7 million people in New York City, and more than 2.6 million people statewide, have already been infected.

These numbers are far greater than the 250,000 confirmed cases of the virus itself that the state has recorded.

They would also mean that the fatality rate from the virus is relatively low — about 0.5 percent, Mr. Cuomo said."

No comments???????????????????

This goes along with the studies coming out of California.

[MakeeLearn]

ORIGINAL: MakeeLearn

Is your mail safe? 3 Jacksonville postal workers test positive for COVID-19
April 22, 2020


https://www.firstcoastnews.com/video/ne ... eccb594ed9


"The United States Postal Service announced Wednesday that employees working at mail distribution centers have coronavirus, USPS says that mail is still safe.

WHAT???

[MakeeLearn]

ORIGINAL: MakeeLearn

what is that bag made out of.... SUPER SPECIAL MATERIAL?

Come on people we need to find out what that bag is made out of.

We can make a fortune!!!!

[Canoerebel]

Further on in that local newspaper article, two restaurant owners are quoted as holding off on re-opening for another week or two. I'd probably do the same, in their shoes.

We didn't have "anti-shutdown" protests in this area. Nor, so far as I know, in the state. One reason may be that most regulations were imposed locally, rather than statewide or national. When it's your neighbors making decisions, there's a heightened level of confidence and accountability (IMO). As others have noted, many non-urban areas have a strong streak of independence, but here that's been tempered by caution.

[MakeeLearn]

My Father died when he was 21.

Good thing he did not die from a DEVASTATING virus when he was 95.

[Canoerebel]

While walking through a local cemetery on the morning of July 4, 2001, I found a paired-tombstone for Frank Holder, who died in 1919, and Emmie Holder, who died in 1992. After doing research, I wrote a story about the Spanish Flu Pandemic here. Frank was a young (20) saw miller when he died of the flu. Emmie was left to raise their one-year-old son. She never remarried, so died after being a widow for 72 years.

[MakeeLearn]

Boy from isolated Amazon tribe dies after being infected with coronavirus
April 12, 2020


https://www.thenews.com.pk/print/643234 ... oronavirus


"BRASILIA (Reuters) - A Yanomami youth has died after testing positive for coronavirus, health officials said on Friday, raising fears that the epidemic will spread among the largest indigenous tribe in northern Brazil.

Alvanei Xirixan, 15, died on Thursday night in intensive care in the main hospital of Boa Vista, capital of Roraima state, according to the local indigenous health service Dsei attached to the Ministry of Health."

"He died of severe respiratory complications on Thursday night, the Brazilian health ministry said in a statement."


isolated

[MakeeLearn]

ORIGINAL: Canoerebel

While walking through a local cemetery on the morning of July 4, 2001, I found a paired-tombstone for Frank Holder, who died in 1919, and Emmie Holder, who died in 1992. After doing research, I wrote a story about the Spanish Flu Pandemic here. Frank was a young (20) saw miller when he died of the flu. Emmie was left to raise their one-year-old son. She never remarried, so died after being a widow for 72 years.

In one of our oldest cemeteries, we have 2 sisters that died a week apart in the 1850's. A lady that was with me said that it was a bad flu year.

[MakeeLearn]

Tar, feathers, rails....

[MakeeLearn]

Chris Cuomo and CNN stage a fake coronavirus resurrection
April 21, 2020

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opin ... surrection


"Anchor Chris Cuomo, who says he had the coronavirus, “emerged” this week from his basement quarantine, claiming he has been cleared by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

That is not the weird part. The weird part is that Cuomo makes it sounds as if this is his first time out of isolation since he announced on March 31 that he had been diagnosed with the virus.

Cuomo has previously admitted that he broke quarantine on Easter Sunday to take his wife and children to look at an undeveloped property in East Hampton, New York — a full 30-minute drive from their home in Southampton."

[Macclan5]

ORIGINAL: BBfanboy

ORIGINAL: AW1Steve

ORIGINAL: RangerJoe




I always like to ask people who claim that they are French Canadian. Are you French? Or are you Canadian?

That said, at least one of my ancestors did live in France for awhile. [8|] There are still people living there with that same last name is y understanding.

I AM AN American. My ancestors were Canadian. And French before that. And Normans before that. And before that, some kind of viking. That's them. I'm and American , and always have been. [:D]

Quebec has the largest group of French-speaking people outside France, and their language and culture are precious to them. The French were the first to explore Canada and establish communities here in the early 1500s. As part of our heritage, and in recognition of their contributions in repelling American invasions, the French have been granted special treatment in many ways. Provinces have been encouraged to include French language instruction in their school curricula, although there was a lot of resistance from provinces that were jealous of Quebec's special treatment. Thankfully, younger generations who have had the opportunity to travel to Quebec with an open mind have come to realize the value of that culture and language. If you wonder about this, take a trip to Quebec City in summertime.

So when a person is French-Canadian, they have divided emotions. They are Canadian so long as Canada respects their language and culture but have considered separating if the rest of Canada threatens to try and make Quebec an Anglophone province. Canada has been learning how to do multi-culturalism for some time and we can handle it - no need to make everyone conform to whatever one group thinks it should be.

+100 [8D]

A very good summary BB - well articulated. Thank you.

Additionally 'scholars have postulated' - that Quebec has represented Canada dealing with 'multiculturalism' for far longer than any other western democracy. This in turn has lead to 'collaborative' governance as a principal of parliamentary democracy right down to the manner in which Supreme Court Justices are selected. . There have been many many benefits to this - and in honesty some drawbacks.

However this balancing of cultural plurality as well as Regional Differences among Canadians ( Anglo Canadians as opposed to Canadiens) forces "big tent" politics within our major National Political Parties - accommodating diverse views. Our Liberals in past iterations have balanced budgets. Our Conservatives in past iterations have invested in social spending.

Populism of the left or right is never broad enough to gain National support ( merely a fraction of the vote and Parliment) although they can "influence policy"

Consistent with my National Identity

I am sorry if this sounds like an advertisement for Canada but we are quietly VERY proud of our Nation.

I would not apologize if this was a hockey rink forum... I would throw punches ... then buy you a beer after the game by way of apology without saying the words [;)]

[HansBolter]

ORIGINAL: MakeeLearn

Chris Cuomo and CNN stage a fake coronavirus resurrection
April 21, 2020

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opin ... surrection


"Anchor Chris Cuomo, who says he had the coronavirus, “emerged” this week from his basement quarantine, claiming he has been cleared by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

That is not the weird part. The weird part is that Cuomo makes it sounds as if this is his first time out of isolation since he announced on March 31 that he had been diagnosed with the virus.

Cuomo has previously admitted that he broke quarantine on Easter Sunday to take his wife and children to look at an undeveloped property in East Hampton, New York — a full 30-minute drive from their home in Southampton."

Any comment I make is likely to cross the red line Bill laid down.......mum's the word.

[MakeeLearn]

My favorite French Canadians, "The Suit Trappers" from Kids in the Hall

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbfA5L3YAO0

[witpqs]

ORIGINAL: Macclan5

ORIGINAL: BBfanboy

ORIGINAL: AW1Steve




I AM AN American. My ancestors were Canadian. And French before that. And Normans before that. And before that, some kind of viking. That's them. I'm and American , and always have been. [:D]

Quebec has the largest group of French-speaking people outside France, and their language and culture are precious to them. The French were the first to explore Canada and establish communities here in the early 1500s. As part of our heritage, and in recognition of their contributions in repelling American invasions, the French have been granted special treatment in many ways. Provinces have been encouraged to include French language instruction in their school curricula, although there was a lot of resistance from provinces that were jealous of Quebec's special treatment. Thankfully, younger generations who have had the opportunity to travel to Quebec with an open mind have come to realize the value of that culture and language. If you wonder about this, take a trip to Quebec City in summertime.

So when a person is French-Canadian, they have divided emotions. They are Canadian so long as Canada respects their language and culture but have considered separating if the rest of Canada threatens to try and make Quebec an Anglophone province. Canada has been learning how to do multi-culturalism for some time and we can handle it - no need to make everyone conform to whatever one group thinks it should be.

+100 [8D]

A very good summary BB - well articulated. Thank you.

Additionally 'scholars have postulated' - that Quebec has represented Canada dealing with 'multiculturalism' for far longer than any other western democracy. This in turn has lead to 'collaborative' governance as a principal of parliamentary democracy right down to the manner in which Supreme Court Justices are selected. . There have been many many benefits to this - and in honesty some drawbacks.

However this balancing of cultural plurality as well as Regional Differences among Canadians ( Anglo Canadians as opposed to Canadiens) forces "big tent" politics within our major National Political Parties - accommodating diverse views. Our Liberals in past iterations have balanced budgets. Our Conservatives in past iterations have invested in social spending.

Populism of the left or right is never broad enough to gain National support ( merely a fraction of the vote and Parliment) although they can "influence policy"

Consistent with my National Identity

I am sorry if this sounds like an advertisement for Canada but we are quietly VERY proud of our Nation.

I would not apologize if this was a hockey rink forum... I would throw punches ... then buy you a beer after the game by way of apology without saying the words [;)]

I have worked with a number of people in Canada (and others from Canada), including Quebec. There was one thing which many of the French-Canadian Quebecois strongly disagreed with. Residents of Quebec who were of French-Canadian ethnicity were required by law to send their children to primarily French-speaking schools, the notion being to preserve the culture. They disagreed with that because they felt it should be their choice what sort of school they sent their children to, not a government decision based on their ethnicity.

I don't know if the law is still that way in Quebec.

[witpqs]

ORIGINAL: Chickenboy

Bad news from abroad. My Aunt (and Godmother) who was in a nursing home in Quebec has been moved to the hospital after testing positive for COVID-19. She is 91. [:(]

Fingers crossed. [:(]

[MakeeLearn]

ORIGINAL: HansBolter

ORIGINAL: MakeeLearn

Chris Cuomo and CNN stage a fake coronavirus resurrection
April 21, 2020

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opin ... surrection


"Anchor Chris Cuomo, who says he had the coronavirus, “emerged” this week from his basement quarantine, claiming he has been cleared by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

That is not the weird part. The weird part is that Cuomo makes it sounds as if this is his first time out of isolation since he announced on March 31 that he had been diagnosed with the virus.

Cuomo has previously admitted that he broke quarantine on Easter Sunday to take his wife and children to look at an undeveloped property in East Hampton, New York — a full 30-minute drive from their home in Southampton."

Any comment I make is likely to cross the red line Bill laid down.......mum's the word.

And he threatens a man who saw him out and about.

"“I said to him, ‘Your brother is the coronavirus czar, and you’re not even following his rules — unnecessary travel,’” David told the Post.

According to David, Mr Cuomo said “Who the hell are you? I can do what I want.”"

Chris Cuomo: CNN host hit with police complaint after threatening elderly man
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 77181.html

[MakeeLearn]

Thou shouldst not have been old till thou hadst been wise.
- The Fool, King Lear

[RangerJoe]

ORIGINAL: Canoerebel

In easing countermeasures, Georgia is allowing certain business to re-open today (salons, bowling allies, and some others). Restaurants can re-open Monday.

Here's an excerpt from our local newspaper today, describing how some businesses planning to re-open are handling things (p.s. - no new cases reported yesterday, and the case level has been basically flat the past week):


Some local businesses are cautiously getting ready to get things back to something like normal.

Kim R*****, owner of the ****** *** Salon, has left a voicemail on her telephone informing customers that she will reopen slowly. She asks her regulars for patience as they have over a month’s worth of appointments to try to reschedule.

“If you have an appointment we are requesting that you wear a mask, stay in your car and text your stylist to let them know you’re here,” the voicemail says. “They will let you know when to come in. We have to watch our numbers.”

Salon ***** will also reopen Friday.

Owner Cindy T***** has gotten a laser thermometer to check the foreheads of customers as they return. Anyone with a temperature over 99 will not be permitted inside the salon, she said. The shop was cleaned professionally Thursday prior to the reopening. One of the reasons clients are being asked to wait in their cars is to give the stylists a chance to clean thoroughly following each appointment. The waiting area will not be used for the time being.

“We are not allowing anybody to bring extra people to the appointment,” ****** said. “We’re not going to have mom and dad and three kids coming in all together. That goes over our limit of people we can have.”

Bart K******, who operates both of Rome’s bowling alleys, said he plans to open Friday — but will limit activity to every other pair of lanes. He said that is well beyond the 6-foot social distance rule.

“We will have someone taking names at the door and counting people,” K****** said. “People will have to wait outside in their cars and as lanes become available we will call them in.”

Employees will be cleaning the alley seating area, bowling balls and public access areas frequently as turnover takes place.

There is a joke here about a child asking her Mom what she did at the bowling ally after it reopened. I just won't post it here . . . [:'(]

[Chickenboy]

BBfanboy and Macclan5 have provided me with some helpful information regarding travel to Canada. In particular, this is a good Wikipedia page as a running record of the outbreak in Canada:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_coro ... _in_Canada

Based on that, it looks like *all* gatherings are still forbidden in Quebec. All Air Canada flights to the United States are grounded beginning April 26. All 'non-essential' travel to the country has been suspended, including Americans. All returning Canadians and anybody else travelling to Canada must self-quarantine for 14 days once in country. Self-quarantine must not include lodging with any particularly vulnerable population (e.g., older relatives (>65) or people with pre-existing conditions).

I haven't been able to ascertain whether travelling for a funeral would be considered 'essential', but it looks like it would be impractical or untimely regardless.

Nationally, most provincial epidemic curves have flattened, with the exception of Quebec and Nova Scotia. These 'new case' curves are still in the log growth phase. National new cases about where we are too, maybe a few days behind us in terms of max number new cases / day. National testing is about where we are: 17,000/M vs. about 14,800/M.

It looks like Quebec has been hit disproportionately hard-more cases and deaths than the other provinces put together. Particularly problematic in nursing homes in Quebec. Some of the reasons for this include rotation of nursing service workers through different homes, use of non-native workers in these facilities with mixed understanding of proper hygiene following and possibly funding issues with those private companies running the retirement homes. Nursing home deaths comprise half of Quebec's death toll. The Regional health director in Montreal estimates that 75% of nursing homes in the area will be affected. And now members of the Canadian Armed Forces have been marshalled to assist with some of these facilities.:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_coro ... _in_Quebec

So as we've said that "there's NY/NJ and then there's everybody else" stateside, it looks like Quebec (and Nova Scotia?) will be Canada's bellweather.

[MakeeLearn]

Coronavirus: Legault pushes ‘herd immunity’ ahead of gradual reopening of schools
April 23, 2020 10:25 pm

https://globalnews.ca/news/6860689/coro ... c-schools/


"Premier François Legault pushed the concept of “herd immunity” on Thursday as he prepared to lay the groundwork next week for a plan to gradually restart the economy and get children back to schools.

The approach would involve exposing a large proportion of Quebecers to the novel coronavirus in a measured, gradual way, to help them develop a natural immunity."