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Interesting, certainly hope it turns out to be true.
https://judithcurry.com/2020/05/10/why-herd-immunity-to-covid-19-is-reached-much-earlier-than-thought/]Why herd immunity to COVID-19 is reached much earlier than thought[/link]
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WSJ story behind paywall of the FBI top brass plotting to entrap Flynn AFTER the original investigators determined the investigation of Flynn should be ended for lack of evidence. Comey is at the meeting. Comey admitted to scheduling the meeting with Flynn (who is not a lawyer) while purposely NOT calling WH counsel to notify. They duped Flynn into thinking he was meeting to coordinate future activities with the incoming WH. There are DOJ rules against "perjury traps" for good reasons. The notes from the FBI planning meeting are chilling.

The DOJ just asked a judge to toss out the case against Flynn https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-vindic ... 1588893542
And far more revelations, plus lots more articles and analysis out there. It remains to be seen if and how some of the media who peddled the falsehoods will cover the revelations.
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And far more revelations, plus lots more articles and analysis out there. It remains to be seen if and how some of the media who peddled the falsehoods will cover the revelations.

Sadly from what I have seen it is:

the rule of law at risk because the case was dropped
Putin is getting his money's worth
but he plead guilty

and the NBC deception I posted above.

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Yesterday I had my first experience of being with someone as they slowly died. He was mentally disabled, and had very little verbal communication. In the past few weeks our bond had became stronger. In the past month The only time he wanted to get out of bed and sit in his chair was when I was there.

Yesterday he kept wanting me to get him out of bed. I could not do it. It was too painful for him for me to move him and I did not want to put neither one of us through it.


I was alone with him for hours yesterday morning. Three times he told me "It's Sunday". Sunday was a special day for him. No one had heard that in months.


Then he told me "They're coming". A minute later "No...No."



It had nothing to do with Coronavirus.







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And far more revelations, plus lots more articles and analysis out there. It remains to be seen if and how some of the media who peddled the falsehoods will cover the revelations.

Sadly from what I have seen it is:

the rule of law at risk because the case was dropped
Putin is getting his money's worth
but he plead guilty

and the NBC deception I posted above.

I know. [:(]
Even though:
- the law prohibits prosecuting someone wrongfully;
- It was the DNC and Clinton campaign which paid 50%/50% for the false dossier;
- they showed him a transcript with a doctored (false) version of his statements (his actual statements did not constitute any crime), he still maintained his innocence, then they said they would indict his son that day unless he plead guilty.
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Yesterday I had my first experience of being with someone as they slowly died. He was mentally disabled, and had very little verbal communication. In the past few weeks our bond had became stronger. In the past month The only time he wanted to get out of bed and sit in his chair was when I was there.

Yesterday he kept wanting me to get him out of bed. I could not do it. It was too painful for him for me to move him and I did not want to put neither one of us through it.


I was alone with him for hours yesterday morning. Three times he told me "It's Sunday". Sunday was a special day for him. No one had heard that in months.


Then he told me "They're coming". A minute later "No...No."



It had nothing to do with Coronavirus.

My condolences. It is not easy to be there as someone dies. [:(]
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And far more revelations, plus lots more articles and analysis out there. It remains to be seen if and how some of the media who peddled the falsehoods will cover the revelations.

Sadly from what I have seen it is:

the rule of law at risk because the case was dropped
Putin is getting his money's worth
but he plead guilty

and the NBC deception I posted above.

I know. [:(]
Even though:
- the law prohibits prosecuting someone wrongfully;
- It was the DNC and Clinton campaign which paid 50%/50% for the false dossier;
- they showed him a transcript with a doctored (false) version of his statements (his actual statements did not constitute any crime), he still maintained his innocence, then they said they would indict his son that day unless he plead guilty.

[:(]

Put those FBI people in with the lifers with no special protections.[8D]
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Yesterday I had my first experience of being with someone as they slowly died. He was mentally disabled, and had very little verbal communication. In the past few weeks our bond had became stronger. In the past month The only time he wanted to get out of bed and sit in his chair was when I was there.

Yesterday he kept wanting me to get him out of bed. I could not do it. It was too painful for him for me to move him and I did not want to put neither one of us through it.


I was alone with him for hours yesterday morning. Three times he told me "It's Sunday". Sunday was a special day for him. No one had heard that in months.


Then he told me "They're coming". A minute later "No...No."



It had nothing to do with Coronavirus.


Man, that is hard. Hope he wasn't truly fearful in the end [:(]
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You know, the worst thing about Jimmy Comey is..if he just had the slightest bit of athletic ability he could have been WAAAY more popular than Larry Bird
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WSJ story behind paywall of the FBI top brass plotting to entrap Flynn AFTER the original investigators determined the investigation of Flynn should be ended for lack of evidence. Comey is at the meeting. Comey admitted to scheduling the meeting with Flynn (who is not a lawyer) while purposely NOT calling WH counsel to notify. They duped Flynn into thinking he was meeting to coordinate future activities with the incoming WH. There are DOJ rules against "perjury traps" for good reasons. The notes from the FBI planning meeting are chilling.

The DOJ just asked a judge to toss out the case against Flynn https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-vindic ... 1588893542

Ah, unfortunate about the paywall.

Given that Flynn's hearing, his own lawyer (who would, one would hope, understand perjury) responded in the negative with regards to if Flynn had been entrapped, I don't think that one flies.

As for the DOJ, my opinion of that branch of the US government went down in flames after the events surrounding the release of the Mueller report.
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M-M

WSJ story behind paywall of the FBI top brass plotting to entrap Flynn AFTER the original investigators determined the investigation of Flynn should be ended for lack of evidence. Comey is at the meeting. Comey admitted to scheduling the meeting with Flynn (who is not a lawyer) while purposely NOT calling WH counsel to notify. They duped Flynn into thinking he was meeting to coordinate future activities with the incoming WH. There are DOJ rules against "perjury traps" for good reasons. The notes from the FBI planning meeting are chilling.

The DOJ just asked a judge to toss out the case against Flynn https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-vindic ... 1588893542

Ah, unfortunate about the paywall.

Given that Flynn's hearing, his own lawyer (who would, one would hope, understand perjury) responded in the negative with regards to if Flynn had been entrapped, I don't think that one flies.

As for the DOJ, my opinion of that branch of the US government went down in flames after the events surrounding the release of the Mueller report.

If you are talking about Flynn's initial lawyers, well then I suspect they are in for a world class lawsuit for malfeasance and evidence continues to surface that they colluded with the prosecution. I would not be surprised that they get disbarred.

DOJ went down in flames well before Mueller report.[:(]
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Interesting website graphing Rt value for US states with easy comparisons to different time frames.

https://rt.live/

Here is a focus on GA:



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Take your vitamin d...

Study reveals that vitamin D likely to reduce serious coronavirus complications

https://www.msn.com/en-ie/news/coronavi ... r-BB13Uk3P

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Take your vitamin d...

Study reveals that vitamin D likely to reduce serious coronavirus complications

https://www.msn.com/en-ie/news/coronavi ... r-BB13Uk3P

I saw something about that before. That could also explain why people with the natural tans could be hit harder.
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Andrew McCarthy, former federal prosecutor explains the FBI Flynn interview problems.
Explosive internal FBI documents unsealed Wednesday show bureau officials executed a "meticulously planned-out scheme" in January 2017 to set up then-national security adviser Michael Flynn, former federal prosecutor Andy McCarthy told Fox News Wednesday.


"What we are seeing is a meticulously planned-out scheme to try to get a 33-year combat veteran of the United States to say something that was inaccurate so that they would have a basis to try to charge him with false statements or otherwise get him fired," McCarthy told "The Story."

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"I think what we are seeing is a meticulously planned out scheme to try to get a 33-year combat veteran of the United States to say something that was inaccurate."

— Andy McCarthy, 'The Story'
The documents turned over by the Justice Department late Wednesday include handwritten notes in which FBI officials openly indicated that their "goal" was "to get him [Flynn] to lie, so we can prosecute him or get him fired" during special counsel Robert Mueller's investigation into alleged collusion by Americans with Russian officials at the time of the 2016 election.

The handwritten notes -- written by the FBI's former head of counterintelligence Bill Priestap after a meeting with then-FBI Director James Comey and then-FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe -- indicated that agents planned to get Flynn “to admit to breaking the Logan Act” and catch him in a lie.

The Logan Act is an obscure statute that has never been used in a criminal prosecution. Enacted in 1799, it was intended to prevent individuals from falsely claiming to represent the United States abroad.

FBI DISCUSSED INTERVIEWING FLYNN 'TO GET HIM TO LIE'

"For years, a number of us have been arguing that this looked like a perjury trap," McCarthy said. "That was common sense for a long time."


Flynn has previously claimed top FBI officials, including then-Deputy Director Andrew McCabe, pressed him not to have an attorney present while he was questioned by two agents. That questioning ultimately led to Flynn's guilty plea on a single charge of lying to federal authorities about conversations with Russia's then-ambassador to Washington, Sergey Kislyak.

One of the agents who questioned Flynn was Peter Strzok, who was later fired from the bureau after his anti-Trump text messages came to light.

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Unsealed FBI notes reveal the intent of the FBI’s 1/24/17 interview of Flynn:

“What is our goal? Truth/Admission or to get him to lie, so we can prosecute [Flynn] or get him fired?”

FBI Notes confirm it was all a pretext.

"They did not have a legitimate investigative reason for doing this and there was no criminal predicate or reason to treat him [Flynn] like a criminal suspect," McCarthy explained.

"They did the interview outside of the established protocols of how the FBI is supposed to interview someone on the White House staff. They are supposed to go through the Justice Department and the White House counsel's office. They obviously purposely did not do that and they were clearly trying to make a case on this."

Mueller eventually concluded that there was no evidence of collusion with Russian foreign nationals and President Trump's campaign. However, in 2017 Flynn pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI about conversations with Russia’s ambassador before President Trump took office

In January, Flynn attempted to withdraw the guilty plea, saying federal prosecutors had acted in “bad faith” and broke their end of the bargain when they sought prison time for him.

Then-FBI Director James Comey admitted the Flynn interview didn't follow protocol, and came at his direction. He said the decision to "send a couple of guys over" to the White House to interview Flynn was “something I probably wouldn't have done or maybe gotten away with in a more … organized administration.”


"People should understand," McCarthy explained, "if General Flynn was a gangbanger or Mafia guy, they would have sat down with them or they would have told him, 'This is a criminal investigation,' they would have identified themselves as FBI agents, told him the reason for the interview, told him he had a right not to answer questions and told him if he made false statements, that could be grounds for prosecution. And if he made true statements, that can be used against him in a prosecution.

"They would do all of those things for criminals," he added.

Flynn's lead attorney, Sidney Powell, has demanded for months that the Department of Justice provide the exculpatory information that prosecutors are required by law to reveal to defendants they have charged with crimes.

Last month, President Trump said he was considering a full pardon for Flynn.
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My mom went back to her house after staying with my sister. She is happy as a lark but I don't think she realizes the danger still. I will talk to her. She talks to her neighbor and they yell at each other across the street. "Don't come any closer Maryann, we'll talk there." [:D]
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WSJ story behind paywall of the FBI top brass plotting to entrap Flynn AFTER the original investigators determined the investigation of Flynn should be ended for lack of evidence. Comey is at the meeting. Comey admitted to scheduling the meeting with Flynn (who is not a lawyer) while purposely NOT calling WH counsel to notify. They duped Flynn into thinking he was meeting to coordinate future activities with the incoming WH. There are DOJ rules against "perjury traps" for good reasons. The notes from the FBI planning meeting are chilling.

The DOJ just asked a judge to toss out the case against Flynn https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-vindic ... 1588893542

And here it says that the people that released Flynn were "hand picked" by the administration. Flynn

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WSJ story behind paywall of the FBI top brass plotting to entrap Flynn AFTER the original investigators determined the investigation of Flynn should be ended for lack of evidence. Comey is at the meeting. Comey admitted to scheduling the meeting with Flynn (who is not a lawyer) while purposely NOT calling WH counsel to notify. They duped Flynn into thinking he was meeting to coordinate future activities with the incoming WH. There are DOJ rules against "perjury traps" for good reasons. The notes from the FBI planning meeting are chilling.

The DOJ just asked a judge to toss out the case against Flynn https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-vindic ... 1588893542

And here it says that the people that released Flynn were "hand picked" by the administration. Flynn


That's how they got to be "FORMER" DOJ officials. [:D] Swamp creatures fighting back.
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M-M

WSJ story behind paywall of the FBI top brass plotting to entrap Flynn AFTER the original investigators determined the investigation of Flynn should be ended for lack of evidence. Comey is at the meeting. Comey admitted to scheduling the meeting with Flynn (who is not a lawyer) while purposely NOT calling WH counsel to notify. They duped Flynn into thinking he was meeting to coordinate future activities with the incoming WH. There are DOJ rules against "perjury traps" for good reasons. The notes from the FBI planning meeting are chilling.

The DOJ just asked a judge to toss out the case against Flynn https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-vindic ... 1588893542

And here it says that the people that released Flynn were "hand picked" by the administration. Flynn


That's how they got to be "FORMER" DOJ officials. [:D] Swamp creatures fighting back.

Please drain the swamp.
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Here is a sad story about Covid-19 and the Navajo. https://apnews.com/c77cc3c537c9a2510b67dcb631b4d988
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