What if JJ switched to Buckyballs for ammo?ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake
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Is that wood?ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake
Just in case you think I was making that up about the Wellington...the Stardust story is true too.
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No, metal. Aluminum I am pretty sure. Skin is fabric.
At dawn we slept...in the cab on the way back from Olongapo
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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo
I think the rivets are corroded because it was fished out of Loch Ness. Looks like restoration work was down on the forward frame lattice. Nose appears to be solid as are the wing leading edges.

RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo
For everyone else who didn't know about Buckyballs ...
https://neoballs.com/pages/what-happened-to-buckyballs
https://neoballs.com/pages/what-happened-to-buckyballs
No matter how bad a situation is, you can always make it worse. - Chris Hadfield : An Astronaut's Guide To Life On Earth
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For everyone else who didn't know about Buckyballs ...
https://neoballs.com/pages/what-happened-to-buckyballs
They are named after Buckminster Fuller who invented the geodesic dome and many other things but not the Wellington bomber...which really isn't "geodesic" but utilizes a triangular lattice for stability which seems to foreshadow Fuller's design. It does make me wonder if he knew about the Wellington.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buckminster_Fuller

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He took the concept and made it fuller.ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake
ORIGINAL: BBfanboy
For everyone else who didn't know about Buckyballs ...
https://neoballs.com/pages/what-happened-to-buckyballs
They are named after Buckminster Fuller who invented the geodesic dome and many other things but not the Wellington bomber...which really isn't "geodesic" but utilizes a triangular lattice for stability which seems to foreshadow Fuller's design. It does make me wonder if he knew about the Wellington.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buckminster_Fuller
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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo
Johnny Cash had a song about him (Buckminster) but it didn't go along with "How do you do" so they changed it to "Sue"

RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo
While B. Fuller is credited with the invention - he didn't really do it first by a long shot. There was a demonstration building put up somewhere 20 years before he said he invented it (at some German tech fair). From Wikipedia:ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake
ORIGINAL: BBfanboy
For everyone else who didn't know about Buckyballs ...
https://neoballs.com/pages/what-happened-to-buckyballs
They are named after Buckminster Fuller who invented the geodesic dome and many other things but not the Wellington bomber...which really isn't "geodesic" but utilizes a triangular lattice for stability which seems to foreshadow Fuller's design. It does make me wonder if he knew about the Wellington.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buckminster_Fuller
"The first dome that could be called "geodesic" in every respect was designed after World War I by Walther Bauersfeld,[1] chief engineer of the Carl Zeiss optical company, for a planetarium to house his planetarium projector. A first, small dome was patented, constructed by the firm of Dykerhoff and Wydmann on the roof of the Zeiss plant in Jena, Germany. A larger dome, called "The Wonder of Jena", opened to the public in July 1926.[2] Some 20 years later, R. Buckminster Fuller named the dome "geodesic" from field experiments with artist Kenneth Snelson at Black Mountain College in 1948 and 1949. Although Fuller was not the original inventor, he is credited with the U.S. popularization of the idea by falsely claiming its design for which he received U.S. Patent 2,682,235A on 29 June 1954."
Pretty sure he did know about the Wellington (if memory serves)
Other fun facts:
-Nikola Tesla was fooling around taking x-rays pictures of himself (and other things) several years before Roentgen - but he didn't think to publish. He did started publishing after he saw what it did for Roentgen, and is generally credited with first writing about the bad effects xrays could have on the body (after he burned himself with them).
- Leo Szilard patented the design for the cyclotron (wasn't called that then) before Ernest Lawrence thought of it. Lawrence did eventually build one, and got the Nobel prize for it.
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Yeah, but does Roentgen have a car named after him floating in space?ORIGINAL: rtrapasso
Other fun facts:ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake
ORIGINAL: BBfanboy
For everyone else who didn't know about Buckyballs ...
https://neoballs.com/pages/what-happened-to-buckyballs
They are named after Buckminster Fuller who invented the geodesic dome and many other things but not the Wellington bomber...which really isn't "geodesic" but utilizes a triangular lattice for stability which seems to foreshadow Fuller's design. It does make me wonder if he knew about the Wellington.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buckminster_Fuller
-Nikola Tesla was fooling around taking x-rays pictures of himself (and other things) several years before Roentgen - but he didn't think to publish. He did started publishing after he saw what it did for Roentgen, and is generally credited with first writing about the bad effects xrays could have on the body (after he burned himself with them).
- Leo Szilard patented the design for the cyclotron (wasn't called that then) before Ernest Lawrence thought of it. Lawrence did eventually build one, and got the Nobel prize for it.
No matter how bad a situation is, you can always make it worse. - Chris Hadfield : An Astronaut's Guide To Life On Earth
RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo
[:D] [:D] [:D]ORIGINAL: BBfanboy
Yeah, but does Roentgen have a car named after him floating in space?ORIGINAL: rtrapasso
Other fun facts:ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake
They are named after Buckminster Fuller who invented the geodesic dome and many other things but not the Wellington bomber...which really isn't "geodesic" but utilizes a triangular lattice for stability which seems to foreshadow Fuller's design. It does make me wonder if he knew about the Wellington.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buckminster_Fuller
-Nikola Tesla was fooling around taking x-rays pictures of himself (and other things) several years before Roentgen - but he didn't think to publish. He did started publishing after he saw what it did for Roentgen, and is generally credited with first writing about the bad effects xrays could have on the body (after he burned himself with them).
- Leo Szilard patented the design for the cyclotron (wasn't called that then) before Ernest Lawrence thought of it. Lawrence did eventually build one, and got the Nobel prize for it.
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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo
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We did something similar - buzzword bingo! Just make a bingo matrix with a buzzword in each box and hand them out to participants. Everyone hides them in their leather-bound folder and appears to be taking notes studiously during the meeting, making the boss happy and the participants entertained. [:)]ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake
Back in the day, when I was President of the corporation (before all the Asian women took over) a staff flunkie screwed up and lost a big health plan contract so 30,000 patients disappear overnight. We had just taken long-term leases on new office space and hired a bunch of people...bad mojo. We were happy with the previous arrangement but the Health System big shots wanted to "serve the community better" (i.e. steal patients from other hospitals)[:D]
Anyway, any idiot could see we had to downsize so we arranged 7 AM meetings every morning for two weeks to hash it out. It was no fun....at the start..but by half way through the first meeting I had compiled a list of idiotic business jargon that the guys and gals on the other side of a huge conference table spouted like it was the gospel of Luke. I can't even remember all the silliness at this point but some were:
"Drill down"....nominally, to investigate further after a probing question by the doctors but what it really means is "oh shit, we didn't think of that"
"Best practice"....when you first hear this it sounds like some kind of lofty, rational, almost mathematical unified theory of the universe..but what it really means is.."We will tell you what you have to do later after we decide what costs less"
"Burning platform"...yes..I know what you are thinking.."did I not read enough books in college..I feel inadequate..is it Biblical...maybe Admiral Nelson mentioned it at Trafalgar""..but after the second person on the other side of the table said the same thing I realized it REALLY means "The Big Boss told us this is important and we will scramble about like Kapuchin monkeys picking up the bright and shiny objects until we make our nightly take"
I compiled a glossary and gave it out secretly to the other medical group members. The meeting started on day 2. We all drink our coffee and have our bagels. Someone on the other side says "drill down" and everyone on our side looks at their shoes. Someone says "best practice" and all the doctors try to maintain. Finally, about 30 minutes in someones utters "burning platform" and it's all over. I never got invited to a higher board. I wonder why.
We sold "Bullshit Bingo" cards in the lobby between sets. I've been one of the fortunate few to whisper "BINGO!" loudly into my colleague's ear while brandishing my winning card with pat check-offs such as "Polymerase Chain Reaction", "Enzyme-linked Immunosorbent Assay" and "Avian Influenza".

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We did something similar - buzzword bingo! Just make a bingo matrix with a buzzword in each box and hand them out to participants. Everyone hides them in their leather-bound folder and appears to be taking notes studiously during the meeting, making the boss happy and the participants entertained. [:)]ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake
Back in the day, when I was President of the corporation (before all the Asian women took over) a staff flunkie screwed up and lost a big health plan contract so 30,000 patients disappear overnight. We had just taken long-term leases on new office space and hired a bunch of people...bad mojo. We were happy with the previous arrangement but the Health System big shots wanted to "serve the community better" (i.e. steal patients from other hospitals)[:D]
Anyway, any idiot could see we had to downsize so we arranged 7 AM meetings every morning for two weeks to hash it out. It was no fun....at the start..but by half way through the first meeting I had compiled a list of idiotic business jargon that the guys and gals on the other side of a huge conference table spouted like it was the gospel of Luke. I can't even remember all the silliness at this point but some were:
"Drill down"....nominally, to investigate further after a probing question by the doctors but what it really means is "oh shit, we didn't think of that"
"Best practice"....when you first hear this it sounds like some kind of lofty, rational, almost mathematical unified theory of the universe..but what it really means is.."We will tell you what you have to do later after we decide what costs less"
"Burning platform"...yes..I know what you are thinking.."did I not read enough books in college..I feel inadequate..is it Biblical...maybe Admiral Nelson mentioned it at Trafalgar""..but after the second person on the other side of the table said the same thing I realized it REALLY means "The Big Boss told us this is important and we will scramble about like Kapuchin monkeys picking up the bright and shiny objects until we make our nightly take"
I compiled a glossary and gave it out secretly to the other medical group members. The meeting started on day 2. We all drink our coffee and have our bagels. Someone on the other side says "drill down" and everyone on our side looks at their shoes. Someone says "best practice" and all the doctors try to maintain. Finally, about 30 minutes in someones utters "burning platform" and it's all over. I never got invited to a higher board. I wonder why.
We sold "Bullshit Bingo" cards in the lobby between sets. I've been one of the fortunate few to whisper "BINGO!" loudly into my colleague's ear while brandishing my winning card with pat check-offs such as "Polymerase Chain Reaction", "Enzyme-linked Immunosorbent Assay" and "Avian Influenza".
How do you get a bunch of old ladies to swear - quite possibly in a church? Yell "BINGO" before they do!
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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo
Church bingo players are just as addicted as sports betters or a guy that goes to the track 7 days a week. Maybe they don't drink as much.

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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo
Just got back from a fly-fishing trip on the Madison and Henry's Fork of the Snake. Great fun although two days were rainy and near freezing. Got warm at the end and the bite picked up.

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Here is a 24 1/2 inch rainbow on Henry's Fork. The other angler in my boat was not happy because it was cold and sleeting.


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My brother-in-law caught a 25 inch male rainbow that was even fatter 2 days earlier. Same guide. 2 biggest fish landed in last 7 years on Henry's Fork.

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Here is my biggest rainbow from the day on the Snake. Not a bad fish but pathetic compared to the royal example above. I caught some 20+ inch Whitefish on the Snake but nobody takes a picture of that.
Caught some 20 inch Browns on the Madison.
It was 34 F when we started out with horizontal rain and sleet. Fortunately, the rain slowed down or we would all have turned to Troutsickles.

Caught some 20 inch Browns on the Madison.
It was 34 F when we started out with horizontal rain and sleet. Fortunately, the rain slowed down or we would all have turned to Troutsickles.

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****************March 16, 1943(e)**************
Sundas and such: I start to make preparations for a possible Jap landing on Kai-elanden. I send some PT squadrons up toward Dobo to stage to cover Kai-elanden and perhaps bait some Jap bombers into a Cap-trap. Two squadrons each go to Taberfane and Dobo. Roti and Koepang and Saumlaki and Babar are mostly sanitized of planes because they are more exposed.
Sundas and such: I start to make preparations for a possible Jap landing on Kai-elanden. I send some PT squadrons up toward Dobo to stage to cover Kai-elanden and perhaps bait some Jap bombers into a Cap-trap. Two squadrons each go to Taberfane and Dobo. Roti and Koepang and Saumlaki and Babar are mostly sanitized of planes because they are more exposed.

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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back from Olongapo
Saumlaki gets hammered.
and
Night Naval bombardment of Saumlaki at 78,117
Japanese Ships
BB Musashi
DD Yugao
DD Mikazuki
DD Satsuki
DD Hayashio
Allied ground losses:
276 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 6 destroyed, 24 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Airbase hits 9
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 24
Port hits 14
Port supply hits 2
and
Night Naval bombardment of Saumlaki at 78,117
Japanese Ships
BB Hyuga
BB Ise
BB Fuso
DD Kikuzuki
DD Umikaze
DD Minegumo
DD Natsugumo
DD Arashi
DD Tokitsukaze
DD Maikaze
DD Makigumo
Allied ground losses:
647 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 38 destroyed, 41 disabled
Engineers: 3 destroyed, 4 disabled
Guns lost 19 (10 destroyed, 9 disabled)
Vehicles lost 10 (3 destroyed, 7 disabled)
Airbase hits 16
Airbase supply hits 8
Runway hits 20
Port hits 17
Port supply hits 3

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Babar gets two cruisers.
and a BB
Night Naval bombardment of Babar at 76,117
Japanese Ships
CA Kumano
CA Mikuma
DD Kawakaze
DD Yukikaze
DD Oyashio
DD Kagero
Allied ground losses:
75 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 5 destroyed, 7 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 7 (5 destroyed, 2 disabled)
Vehicles lost 3 (2 destroyed, 1 disabled)
Airbase hits 4
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 10
Port hits 1
Port supply hits 2
and a BB
Night Naval bombardment of Babar at 76,117
Japanese Ships
BB Hiei
DD Yugiri
DD Uranami
DD Isonami
Allied ground losses:
92 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 4 destroyed, 6 disabled
Engineers: 2 destroyed, 4 disabled
Vehicles lost 5 (3 destroyed, 2 disabled)
Airbase hits 3
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 9
Port hits 1






