Numbers that Correlate to Winning

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eddieballgame
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Numbers that Correlate to Winning

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I get that this game recognizes the 'Populace %' & 'Planet %' as the main numbers to determine a victor based on the amount of.
I was wondering what other numbers are as important as these 2 in determining how well one is progressing, such as 'QoL' & all the numbers that appear in that block as well as the 'Empire Dashboard' report.

In other words, would it be better to include all of these 'numbers' to determine a victor (via some formula) as opposed to just the original 2?
After all, it does give a more vivid picture of one's...strengths & weaknesses.
With all the data at one's fingertips per how well one is doing or not, it is shame that the 'Victor Score' is based on just 2 categories.

Yes, I know that everything affects everything else; but I feel this great game deserves a bit more...meat in the 'Victory Score' department.

Playing vs a friend per a 'lastplanetgenerated' file, we are of the opinion that all/some of the numbers could/should be a viable way to determine a victor in the event that a game does not end per the established game's method.
lloydster4
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RE: Numbers that Correlate to Winning

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The current system is functional for competing with the AI, but I can see it being a bit bland for comparing human opponents.

With rare exception, all victories are conquest victories. In that context, I appreciate the current victory score. Essentially, its only function is to stop the game when total conquest becomes inevitable.
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RE: Numbers that Correlate to Winning

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Pushing for a high population avoids too much emphasis on a conquest victory. That is something I like. That's not to say that peace is a real option usually, it just means that you don't have to kill everyone else to win, or even come close to having done so.
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RE: Numbers that Correlate to Winning

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ORIGINAL: lloydster4

The current system is functional for competing with the AI, but I can see it being a bit bland for comparing human opponents.

With rare exception, all victories are conquest victories. In that context, I appreciate the current victory score. Essentially, its only function is to stop the game when total conquest becomes inevitable.

Bland is a good word.
I consider it very simplistic considering the amount of content the game offers.

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RE: Numbers that Correlate to Winning

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ORIGINAL: eddieballgame

ORIGINAL: lloydster4

The current system is functional for competing with the AI, but I can see it being a bit bland for comparing human opponents.

With rare exception, all victories are conquest victories. In that context, I appreciate the current victory score. Essentially, its only function is to stop the game when total conquest becomes inevitable.

Bland is a good word.
I consider it very simplistic considering the amount of content the game offers to gauge one's progress, or lack there of.

Playing 'tall' is not a winning game option but still fun as I like to see how many friendly neighbors (Majors & Minors) I can maintain while developing my empire for conquering later down the road...if time allows for it.

zgrssd
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RE: Numbers that Correlate to Winning

Post by zgrssd »

There are some interesting Stratagems. Like the one Meritocracy for Secret Service wich basically allows you to steal population from a enemy.
Atracting Free Folk should also help you buff that number.

As long as you got the 50% Land (wich should be doable), you can get the population other ways.

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GodwinW
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RE: Numbers that Correlate to Winning

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ORIGINAL: eddieballgame

I get that this game recognizes the 'Populace %' & 'Planet %' as the main numbers to determine a victor based on the amount of.
I was wondering what other numbers are as important as these 2 in determining how well one is progressing, such as 'QoL' & all the numbers that appear in that block as well as the 'Empire Dashboard' report.

Well I have found that for example making a Friendship Pact with a major at 24 points gave that Major 3 victory points next turn (I had 49) that he really wouldn't get without (tried both ways, due to a bug).
It also gave me 2 or so I think, not sure. Maybe less.
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