OT: Coronavirus 2, the No Politics Version

[JohnDillworth]

“Public Health in the Untied States is a State and Local Issue” is simply not true. This is a global pandemic. This is a national issue whether we choose to accept that or not. Treating this as a local issue is near sighted and ignorant. That attitude has resulted in the single largest health crisis in the history of our nation. The notion is simply wrong and one need simply to count the bodies or the 3 million cases to see how wrong it is. That approach is killing people needlessly every day. Once again we see Florida trying to hide and obscure data, this time unsuccessfully https://www.yahoo.com/news/florida-sheriff-wins-battle-with-de-santis-administration-over-coronavirus-data-174305203.html. BTW, DeSantis is clearly not up to the task. Maybe he is lying to himself or is simply stupid. The results of his incompetence speak for themselves. On a personal note, I’ve know a lot of drunks in my life and can pick them out a mile away. Take a look at DeSantis thirsty face, clearly he needs to resign and dry out

[RangerJoe]

ORIGINAL: JohnDillworth

“Public Health in the Untied States is a State and Local Issue” is simply not true. This is a global pandemic. This is a national issue whether we choose to accept that or not. Treating this as a local issue is near sighted and ignorant. That attitude has resulted in the single largest health crisis in the history of our nation. The notion is simply wrong and one need simply to count the bodies or the 3 million cases to see how wrong it is. That approach is killing people needlessly every day. Once again we see Florida trying to hide and obscure data, this time unsuccessfully https://www.yahoo.com/news/florida-sheriff-wins-battle-with-de-santis-administration-over-coronavirus-data-174305203.html. BTW, DeSantis is clearly not up to the task. Maybe he is lying to himself or is simply stupid. The results of his incompetence speak for themselves. On a personal note, I’ve know a lot of drunks in my life and can pick them out a mile away. Take a look at DeSantis thirsty face, clearly he needs to resign and dry out

Maybe “Public Health in the Untied States is a State and Local Responsibility” would be a better way to put it. Yes the Federal government is involved but that is more through the national organizations, some of which are because of interstate commerce.

Please leave personal attacks on politicians who are not here out of this thread. Those people can't defend themselves.

[obvert]

ORIGINAL: JohnDillworth

“Public Health in the Untied States is a State and Local Issue” is simply not true. This is a global pandemic. This is a national issue whether we choose to accept that or not. Treating this as a local issue is near sighted and ignorant. That attitude has resulted in the single largest health crisis in the history of our nation. The notion is simply wrong and one need simply to count the bodies or the 3 million cases to see how wrong it is. That approach is killing people needlessly every day. Once again we see Florida trying to hide and obscure data, this time unsuccessfully https://www.yahoo.com/news/florida-sheriff-wins-battle-with-de-santis-administration-over-coronavirus-data-174305203.html. BTW, DeSantis is clearly not up to the task. Maybe he is lying to himself or is simply stupid. The results of his incompetence speak for themselves. On a personal note, I’ve know a lot of drunks in my life and can pick them out a mile away. Take a look at DeSantis thirsty face, clearly he needs to resign and dry out

While I agree with some things you're saying here and the administration in Florida seems to be continually attempting to manipulate reporting around Covid, the comments at the bottom about DeSantis need something to back them up.

He's a Yale grad and went on to Harvard Law so on that track record "stupid" may not be an accurate descriptor. Hubris and political self-interest can make the smartest leaders make bad decisions. As for the claims you can tell from video and images that he's a "drunk," you may suspect that but do you have any way of knowing that. Does this come from some source?

I'd be shocked and angry to be labelled that way by someone I'd never met.

[fcooke]

ORIGINAL: sPzAbt653

With my allergies I'm not sure clipping off my nose would work

Not to clip off your nose, lol, just to reduce or eliminate the space between the mask and your nose. I wear glasses and have the same fogging issues, but I've also worn N-95's for years because of my job and I am used to it. Currently I don't use my N-95's in general use because the virus shouldn't be that thick in a store or restaurant. I wear a cotton mask with a pipe cleaner bridge support when I need to look official, and when I go to a store or restaurant I wear a folded bandana. As soon as I am outside I am mask free. Either way there is always some fogging [especially in winter] and difficulty breathing, but you won't catch me driving or jogging with a mask on [what is wrong with people?] [:)]

I have a few masks, some basic contractor jobs, one a custom cloth job a friend made for me. In any case I'm not great about which vehicle I leave them in. So a few weeks back I had driven to a store about 15 min away and realized the masks were in the other car. I was wearing a t shirt and a sweatshirt so stripped down in the parking lot and turned my t shirt into a bandana, and put the sweatshirt back on. I got a number of strange looks but the store let me in [:D]

[fcooke]

ORIGINAL: JohnDillworth

“Public Health in the Untied States is a State and Local Issue” is simply not true. This is a global pandemic. This is a national issue whether we choose to accept that or not. Treating this as a local issue is near sighted and ignorant. That attitude has resulted in the single largest health crisis in the history of our nation. The notion is simply wrong and one need simply to count the bodies or the 3 million cases to see how wrong it is. That approach is killing people needlessly every day. Once again we see Florida trying to hide and obscure data, this time unsuccessfully https://www.yahoo.com/news/florida-sheriff-wins-battle-with-de-santis-administration-over-coronavirus-data-174305203.html. BTW, DeSantis is clearly not up to the task. Maybe he is lying to himself or is simply stupid. The results of his incompetence speak for themselves. On a personal note, I’ve know a lot of drunks in my life and can pick them out a mile away. Take a look at DeSantis thirsty face, clearly he needs to resign and dry out

Just for the record, not the worst health crisis in the history of our nation. It may become so, but I think the Flu post WW1 still took out more people, and from all smaller total population.

[BBfanboy]

ORIGINAL: fcooke

ORIGINAL: JohnDillworth

“Public Health in the Untied States is a State and Local Issue” is simply not true. This is a global pandemic. This is a national issue whether we choose to accept that or not. Treating this as a local issue is near sighted and ignorant. That attitude has resulted in the single largest health crisis in the history of our nation. The notion is simply wrong and one need simply to count the bodies or the 3 million cases to see how wrong it is. That approach is killing people needlessly every day. Once again we see Florida trying to hide and obscure data, this time unsuccessfully https://www.yahoo.com/news/florida-sheriff-wins-battle-with-de-santis-administration-over-coronavirus-data-174305203.html. BTW, DeSantis is clearly not up to the task. Maybe he is lying to himself or is simply stupid. The results of his incompetence speak for themselves. On a personal note, I’ve know a lot of drunks in my life and can pick them out a mile away. Take a look at DeSantis thirsty face, clearly he needs to resign and dry out

Just for the record, not the worst health crisis in the history of our nation. It may become so, but I think the Flu post WW1 still took out more people, and from all smaller total population.

The 1919/21 flu is over, but this COVID thing is not nearly through with us. And then there are secondary effects, like people so frustrated by the lockdown that they shoot somebody at home or at random outside because of some small dispute ... I don't know why our schools don't teach us how to chill/meditate to clear our minds of all our fears and accept what we cannot control. Right now the model for resuming lockdowns seems to be "it will happen when people's fear of the virus exceeds their fear of loss of income/freedom of movement/something interesting to do". That bottles up a lot of fear either way.
I am fortunate not to be raising a family right now, retired, financially secure and playing WITP-AE to satisfy my need for entertainment!

[RangerJoe]

Yellow fever was much worse:

Yellow fever appeared in the U.S. in the late 17th century. The deadly virus continued to strike cities, mostly eastern seaports and Gulf Coast cities, for the next two hundred years, killing hundreds, sometimes thousands in a single summer.

1. Philadelphia; August-November 1793; approximately 5,000 dead
This outbreak killed about 10% of the city's population, and thousands more fled, including an infected Alexander Hamilton and his wife. Dr. Benjamin Rush, who stayed, issued guidelines for avoiding infection and helped set up a "fever hospital" for victims.

2. New York City; July-October 1795; 730 dead
New York City, which in 1793 had turned away refugees from the epidemic in Philadelphia, suffered its own epidemic two summers later.

3. Boston, New York City and Philadelphia; Summer 1798; more than 5,000 dead
Concurrent epidemics hit the nation's three major cities.

4. Baltimore; Summer 1800; 1,200 dead
As the 19th century wore on, yellow fever outbreaks would increasingly be confined to the southern United States.

5. New Orleans; Summer 1853; 8000 or more dead
This outbreak illustrated a racial disparity in yellow fever mortality; 7.4% of white residents died, but only 0.2% of blacks.

6. Norfolk; June-Oct 1855; 2,000 dead
This epidemic, like many others in America, began with the arrival of a disease-carrying ship from the West Indies.

7. Mississippi Valley; May-Oct 1878; 20,000 dead
Starting in New Orleans, this epidemic spread up the Mississippi Valley to Memphis. More than half of the 47,000 residents of Memphis fled the city; more than 5,000 died that summer of yellow fever.

8. Cuba; Summer 1898; hundreds dead
Disease killed more than five times as many American soldiers as enemy bullets during the Spanish-American war; yellow fever was among the culprits, and its impact led to the establishment of a U.S. Army Yellow Fever Board led by Walter Reed that would unravel the mystery of yellow fever transmission and lead to its eradication in America.

9. New Orleans; May-October 1905; more than 900 dead
Yellow fever epidemics took more than 41,000 lives in New Orleans from 1817-1905, but the 1905 outbreak was America's last. Today, yellow fever continues to appear in small outbreaks in South America and more serious epidemics in West and Central Africa.

https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperi ... low-fever/

[fcooke]

ORIGINAL: BBfanboy

ORIGINAL: fcooke

ORIGINAL: JohnDillworth

“Public Health in the Untied States is a State and Local Issue” is simply not true. This is a global pandemic. This is a national issue whether we choose to accept that or not. Treating this as a local issue is near sighted and ignorant. That attitude has resulted in the single largest health crisis in the history of our nation. The notion is simply wrong and one need simply to count the bodies or the 3 million cases to see how wrong it is. That approach is killing people needlessly every day. Once again we see Florida trying to hide and obscure data, this time unsuccessfully https://www.yahoo.com/news/florida-sheriff-wins-battle-with-de-santis-administration-over-coronavirus-data-174305203.html. BTW, DeSantis is clearly not up to the task. Maybe he is lying to himself or is simply stupid. The results of his incompetence speak for themselves. On a personal note, I’ve know a lot of drunks in my life and can pick them out a mile away. Take a look at DeSantis thirsty face, clearly he needs to resign and dry out

Just for the record, not the worst health crisis in the history of our nation. It may become so, but I think the Flu post WW1 still took out more people, and from all smaller total population.

The 1919/21 flu is over, but this COVID thing is not nearly through with us. And then there are secondary effects, like people so frustrated by the lockdown that they shoot somebody at home or at random outside because of some small dispute ... I don't know why our schools don't teach us how to chill/meditate to clear our minds of all our fears and accept what we cannot control. Right now the model for resuming lockdowns seems to be "it will happen when people's fear of the virus exceeds their fear of loss of income/freedom of movement/something interesting to do". That bottles up a lot of fear either way.
I am fortunate not to be raising a family right now, retired, financially secure and playing WITP-AE to satisfy my need for entertainment!

Gladly in the same situation as regards being retired and financially secure. But many are not. And the loss of income/stress/mental heath impact will likely never be correlated to this bugger. And the hyperbole in the media is....well I won't say because then it might become political.

[Sammy5IsAlive]

This sounds a little ominous [:(]


https://www.forbes.com/sites/kenrapoza/ ... ead14a422a

[Cheesesteak]

on a lighter note: https://imgur.com/gallery/UQknnJN

[RangerJoe]

ORIGINAL: Cheesesteak

on a lighter note: https://imgur.com/gallery/UQknnJN

An uptick in babies born in 8 to 9 months?

[Bo Rearguard]

ORIGINAL: Cheesesteak

on a lighter note: https://imgur.com/gallery/UQknnJN

After a night's bombing another victim of the London Blitz is pulled to safety.

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ORIGINAL: Cheesesteak

on a lighter note: https://imgur.com/gallery/UQknnJN

Looking at those pictures only one thing comes to mind, God is so going to smite us.

[DD696]

This is not in reply to the person this post replies to.

So much crappy politics here. All of the time I think that you are still the crying bunch of lunatic babies that pissed me off so much because I did not buy into your PBEM players are so far superior to EVERYONE else routine.

Obliviously, it only becomes politics when the moderator says it is - regardless of their political leanings.

[BBfanboy]

ORIGINAL: DD696

This is not in reply to the person this post replies to.

So much crappy politics here. All of the time I think that you are still the crying bunch of lunatic babies that pissed me off so much because I did not buy into your PBEM players are so far superior to EVERYONE else routine.

Obliviously, it only becomes politics when the moderator says it is - regardless of their political leanings.

Uh-oh! Sounds like you need to install the new "-noGun" switch for the game to ensure your monitor keeps working .... [;)]

[RangerJoe]

ORIGINAL: BBfanboy

ORIGINAL: DD696

This is not in reply to the person this post replies to.

So much crappy politics here. All of the time I think that you are still the crying bunch of lunatic babies that pissed me off so much because I did not buy into your PBEM players are so far superior to EVERYONE else routine.

Obliviously, it only becomes politics when the moderator says it is - regardless of their political leanings.

Uh-oh! Sounds like you need to install the new "-noGun" switch for the game to ensure your monitor keeps working .... [;)]

Well, I have never played ONE PBEM game yet so I must not be included.[;)]

[fcooke]

DD - you might want to have another drink. Or not. Chill. We cannot change history, only learn from it.

[obvert]

ORIGINAL: Bo Rearguard

ORIGINAL: Cheesesteak

on a lighter note: https://imgur.com/gallery/UQknnJN

After a night's bombing another victim of the London Blitz is pulled to safety.

During the past few months we forgot what fun looks like for most of Britain! [:D]

I am worried, on a serious note, that things could go very wrong here in a few weeks. Many places are much better though. My wife went out to dinner and had a great time last night. Said all was done very carefully, she ate outside, everyone behaved. So hopefully this is a small visible portion of the community and the majority are heading warnings and staying a bit more safe.

[RangerJoe]

Researchers find rise in broken heart syndrome during COVID-19 pandemic
Broken heart syndrome, or stress cardiomyopathy, occurs in response to stressful events

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2 ... 141603.htm

[RangerJoe]

Doctors start seeing new coronavirus symptom patterns in young patients

https://bgr.com/2020/07/11/coronavirus- ... rrhea-cdc/