Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues

[UncertainlyCertain]

To Parel803

This is going slightly off topic, but you can just create a reference point on any given position and then rename it as you see fit. For example: Probable enemy sub, dd/mm/yyyy at xx:xx.

This is also useful when playing as a sub commander and tracking some vessels, by placing reference points everytime you get a contact update you can work out its course and speed, then plot an intercept course.

[FTBSS]

FFG-62 Agility should be named FFG 62 Knox and also has an issue it has 6 + hours of fuel at cruising speed.

[KLAB]

The image of the many LS6 bombs being dropped is overtly a photoshop montage, I believe from marketing images for the system.
So is it actually an in service load out or conceptual artists offering?
Plus presuming that all Russian weapons that can mount on the Su-30 are used by the J-15/16 is assuming that its been economically worthwhile in training crews and certifying old and in some ways obsolete weapons on new types.
If the obsolete or old weapon offers a significant capability that can't be replicated by something newer and indigenous then there may be an argument that it is in use.
Anyway only an opinion not criticism of the request . K

ORIGINAL: DracheTek

ADD

Please consider adding smaller precision guided munition to Chinese aircrafts.

Chinese air force does have smaller LS-6 variants (50kg, 100kg etc.) for their multirole aircrafts. They are shown on the Zhuhai Air Show 2012.
I noticed that LS-6-50 variant is already in game and is used by Zambia air force with Chinese originated trainer/light attacker L-15. So I am PERSUMING that Chinese aircrafts can carry such bombs as well.
Besides, FT-7 (which is already a loadout of CH-5 UAV) should be available to every Chinese 3rd gen aircraft lineup.
Furthermore, we can merge all Russian air to ground weapons to Chinese Sukhoi lineup, including J-15/J-16. Since dear community added [COPY] tag to every Chinese Sukhoi-like aircraft, I am again PERSUMING that there is some backward compatibility in it.

Back to the topic.



This is the 100kg variant of LS-6. It should have ~50 dp in game.



This is a J-16 dispensing the aforementioned bomb. Note the 6* multirack under the wing, each J-16 should be able to carry 24 of such bomb, and its strike radius should be similar to

[DracheTek]

With that said, I did count the bomb dropped. There is ~15 bombs in the air, 6 on left outer wing rack and 4(?) on right outer wing rack, and it adds up to roughly 24. As for why this plane throws these precise bombs in a carpet bombing pattern (like F-15E using unguided bombs), I can only presume that the artist (cameraman) feel like its COOOOOOOL.

Russian arsenal contains some key items that helps fights near China, Currently the Chinese air to ground arsenal only contain the following:
1. unguided bombs/rockets
2. LT-2 laser guided bomb
3. LS-6-500 INS/GPS bomb/glide bomb
4. FT-7 INS/GPS glide penetrator bomb that is only available to CH-5.
4. KD-88 (large infrared imaging missile designed to bring down a building or ship, not a single tank)
5. YJ-91 (large Anti Radiation Missile. Meant to be used against ship, so have name "Ying Ji" (the codename of Chinese anti ship missile lineup.))
--------- THE END ------------
With that said, using these weapons against most targets that light infantry may encounter (infantry group, IFV group, tank group) is like "butchering a chicken using a knife for cow" (Chinese dictum), or like letting infantry choose from bayonet and heavy cannons and not offering rifles.
to name a few "obsolete" weapon that does great help in low cost regional conflict (to BTHO TW and IN cost efficiently):

1. Unguided/guided cluster weapon/dispensers aimed to platoon/company level tank groups (Namely RBK-500). There is info about Chinese standoff dispenser from some air shows, but info on the internet is no more than a few pictures.
2. Heavy guided bombs(KAB-1500 laser/IR imaging bomb/penetrator), which helps attacking fortified air bunkers, Chinese ATG arsenal in game has NO penetration bombs whatsoever.

In one word, Chinese arsenal have no tactical CAS weapon whatsoever.

ORIGINAL: KLAB

The image of the many LS6 bombs being dropped is overtly a photoshop montage, I believe from marketing images for the system.
So is it actually an in service load out or conceptual artists offering?
Plus presuming that all Russian weapons that can mount on the Su-30 are used by the J-15/16 is assuming that its been economically worthwhile in training crews and certifying old and in some ways obsolete weapons on new types.
If the obsolete or old weapon offers a significant capability that can't be replicated by something newer and indigenous then there may be an argument that it is in use.
Anyway only an opinion not criticism of the request . K

ORIGINAL: DracheTek

ADD

Please consider adding smaller precision guided munition to Chinese aircrafts.

Chinese air force does have smaller LS-6 variants (50kg, 100kg etc.) for their multirole aircrafts. They are shown on the Zhuhai Air Show 2012.
I noticed that LS-6-50 variant is already in game and is used by Zambia air force with Chinese originated trainer/light attacker L-15. So I am PERSUMING that Chinese aircrafts can carry such bombs as well.
Besides, FT-7 (which is already a loadout of CH-5 UAV) should be available to every Chinese 3rd gen aircraft lineup.
Furthermore, we can merge all Russian air to ground weapons to Chinese Sukhoi lineup, including J-15/J-16. Since dear community added [COPY] tag to every Chinese Sukhoi-like aircraft, I am again PERSUMING that there is some backward compatibility in it.

Back to the topic.



This is the 100kg variant of LS-6. It should have ~50 dp in game.



This is a J-16 dispensing the aforementioned bomb. Note the 6* multirack under the wing, each J-16 should be able to carry 24 of such bomb, and its strike radius should be similar to when it carry four LS-6-500

[BDukes]

<type>UPDATE</type>
<summary>D66 Visakhapatnam entry need update. </summary>
<detail>Several details on D66 Visakhaptam #2361 change since entry made. IOC will be 2021 and there will be 4 of them. The deck gun ins 127mm and is likely the US Mk 45 Mod 4 (look on Burke DDG-same) as India purchase 13 of them in 2019. Kavach decoy system will be used (same for P15A destroyer and others from 2012)
</detail>
<evidence>
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visakhapa ... _destroyer
https://www.newindianexpress.com/nation ... 93908.html
https://www.navyrecognition.com/index.p ... tates.html
http://archive.indianexpress.com/news/a ... vy/953720/
https://www.naval-technology.com/news/n ... oy-systems
https://www.reddit.com/r/MilitaryPorn/c ... _a_kavach/
</evidence>

[BDukes]

<type>UPDATE</type>
<summary>Thailand BAE-90 has name, pennant and second ship variant </summary>
<detail> Thailand BAE-90 #3205 is P 551 Krabi.The ship is armed with an Oto Melara 76mm Super Rapid naval gun, two MSI Defence DS30M 30mm remote weapon systems, two 12.7mm heavy machine guns. Does have LIROD fire control for Deck gun. Gun system mounts in DB. Second ship P552 Prachuap Khiri Khan (IOC 2021) has 2 twin launcher Harpoon II.
</detail>
<evidence>
https://www.naval-technology.com/projec ... l-vessels/
https://www.asiapacificdefensejournal.c ... class.html
MSI DS30M
https://asianmilitaryreview.com/2020/05 ... thai-navy/

</evidence>

[BDukes]

<type>ADD</type>
<summary> RAT-31DL Radar Sales to Thailand and Indonesia in 2020</summary>
<detail> Thailand and Indonesia both receive RAT-31DL Radars </detail>
<evidence>https://www.defaiya.com/news/Internatio ... -air-force
http://armstrade.sipri.org/armstrade/pa ... gister.php
</evidence>

[BDukes]

<type>ADD</type>
<summary> Thailand receive Lanza LRR Radar</summary>
<detail> Thailand and Indonesia both receive RAT-31DL Radars. May already exist in db to copy #1872 </detail>
<evidence>https://monch.com/mpg/news/ew-c4i-chann ... a-lrr.html
https://asianmilitaryreview.com/2018/09 ... air-force/
http://armstrade.sipri.org/armstrade/pa ... gister.php
https://www.indracompany.com/sites/defa ... _v19_0.pdf
</evidence>

[BDukes]

<type>UPDATE</type>
<summary>Thailand BAE-90 #3205 fire control, EW and Radar Update </summary>
<detail> The sensors to be delivered are the VARIANT surveillance radar, STIR 1.2 EO Mk2 fire control radar and VIGILE Electronic Support Measures with SKWS chaff launcher
</detail>
<evidence>
http://armstrade.sipri.org/armstrade/pa ... gister.php
https://www.thalesgroup.com/en/worldwid ... pabilities
</evidence>

[BDukes]

<type>UPDATE</type>
<summary> Singapore F-5S and F-5T retired 2015</summary>
<detail> Singapore Retire F-5 Fleet in 2015</detail>
<evidence>
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/144_Squad ... _Air_Force
https://www.ainonline.com/aviation-news ... er-upgrade
</evidence>

[BDukes]

<type>UPDATE</type>
<summary> Thailand F-5 modernization to F-5T and F-5THF-Tigris and Super Tigris updates</summary>
<detail> Thailand modernizes F-5. Small update in 2003(Tigris) and then bigger one for 2020(Super Tigris). In 2003 get Python 4 (see SIPRI link) and helmet mounted sights but by 2020 have significant updates similar to what Brazils did. Replace radar with EL/M-2032, add Litening 3 pod to A to G loadout, Python V, IRIS-T missile, Rafael Skyshield DECM Pod. Derby listed but no evidence </detail>
<evidence>
https://www.ainonline.com/aviation-news ... er-upgrade
https://thaimilitaryandasianregion.word ... air-force/
http://armstrade.sipri.org/armstrade/pa ... gister.php
https://www.ainonline.com/aviation-news ... sraeli-kit
</evidence>

[BDukes]

<type>UPDATE</type>
<summary> 911 Chakri Naruebet Updates</summary>
<detail> Thailand carrier 911 Chakri Naruebet #2275 get updated, 2014 replace air search radar with Sea Giraffe AMB</detail>
<evidence>
http://armstrade.sipri.org/armstrade/pa ... gister.php
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTMS_Chakri_Naruebet
</evidence>

[BDukes]

<type>NEW</type>
<summary> Thailand Chao Pria Frigates get C-802 by 2014</summary>
<detail> Entry #1009 and #188 replace C-801 Mounts with C-802 (4 Dual Launcher)
<evidence>
http://armstrade.sipri.org/armstrade/pa ... gister.php
https://www.flickr.com/photos/acstudio/ ... /lightbox/
https://i.imgur.com/kbWitAj.jpg
</evidence>

[BDukes]

<type>NEW</type>
<summary>Add Thai Army Hermes 450</summary>
<detail> Thailand Army buy 4 of these. IOC 2018. Copy #2580
<evidence>
http://armstrade.sipri.org/armstrade/pa ... gister.php
https://www.ainonline.com/aviation-news ... es-450-uas
https://www.uasvision.com/2018/06/27/th ... ermes-450/
</evidence>

[BDukes]

<type>NEW</type>
<summary>Add Thai FFG-471 Bhumibol Adulyadej [DW-3000] frigate</summary>
<detail> Thailand buy Korean Frigate. In service 2020. Sea links for components. 1 large helo pad and hangar.</detail>
<evidence>
http://armstrade.sipri.org/armstrade/pa ... gister.php
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTMS_Bhumibol_Adulyadej
https://www.fleetmon.com/maritime-news/ ... stponed-s/
https://asiapacificdefencenews.com/inde ... -ceremony/

</evidence>

[BDukes]

<type>NEW</type>
<summary>Add Thai 511 Pattani OPV</summary>
<detail> There are 2 of these and IOC was 2005. Has small hangar and pad for lynx. Data in links below. </detail>
<evidence>
http://armstrade.sipri.org/armstrade/pa ... gister.php
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTMS_Pattani
</evidence>

[BDukes]

<type>NEW</type>
<summary>Add SR-5 Rocket System</summary>
<detail> Popular 122mm and 220mm Chinese Export Rocket System. Each vehicle has 2 pods. A pod can be 20 122mm or 6 220mm.
In service Bahrain 2016, Algeria 2017, Venezuala 2014, UAE 2020</detail>
<evidence>
http://www.military-today.com/artillery/sr5.htm
https://www.armyrecognition.com/china_a ... 01162.html
http://armstrade.sipri.org/armstrade/pa ... gister.php
https://www.militaryfactory.com/armor/d ... mor_id=819
https://armyrecognition.com/november_20 ... geria.html
https://twitter.com/kad_ghani/status/11 ... 7797105664
https://twitter.com/TNI_AL/status/793033661859758080
https://www.janes.com/defence-news/news ... cquisition
</evidence>

[BDukes]

<type>NEW</type>
<summary>Update Chinese 122mm Rocket Systems with guided rockets</summary>
<detail> Chinese have King Dragon 60 GR1 220 mm terminal-guided rocket and the Fire Dragon BRE7 122mm guided rocket from 2012. Add new entry of #1964 to accounts</detail>
<evidence>
https://www.armyrecognition.com/china_a ... 01162.html
</evidence>

[UncertainlyCertain]

<type>UPDATE</type>
<summary>Type 26 frigates mission bay</summary>
<detail>The type 26 frigates feature a modular mission bay that is currently not modeled in any of its current DB entries (two Royal Navy DB ID #2514 and #2795, by the way both entries are virtually identical; one Royal Canadian Navy DB ID #3192).Here are some descriptions and images I found.</detail>
<evidence>1a
2a</evidence>

[ParachuteProne]

ORIGINAL: UncertainlyCertain

<type>UPDATE</type>
<summary>Type 26 frigates mission bay</summary>
<detail>The type 26 frigates feature a modular mission bay that is currently not modeled in any of its current DB entries (two Royal Navy DB ID #2514 and #2795, by the way both entries are virtually identical; one Royal Canadian Navy DB ID #3192).Here are some descriptions and images I found.</detail>
<evidence>1a
2a</evidence>

You can find more info on these ships on page 188 of this thread.