brianG v tyronec anatomy of disaster all welcome

[BrianG]

I am hesitant to show turn 16 and 17

They are just brutal.

[BrianG]

Now this attack was well fought but can i get a break please! This would have been a helpful win.

Model gives attack order and will depart immediately to parts unknown.

[BrianG]

Moscow open

So the north group captured and he pushes out his lines.

Only one more till mud.

[BrianG]

So after flying ( see leaders can fly), Model shows up at the end of the week and issues this attack doodle.

I am very upset i lost the Don river battle. Another crusher

[Shupov]

Your attack had a really tough loss at 1.95 to 1. I noticed that 33rd Army and Moskalenko (Inf=5) led the attack. In the last screen shot I see Vatutin (Inf=7) was commanding 18th Army. Of course there was no way to know the attack odds would be so close to 2.00 but your attack would have won had 18th Army had been the Commanding HQ and Vatutin had been the general.

Assuming 18th Army was also in the first battle it may have been worthwhile to force Vatutin to lead. If he had controlled the most CV's 18th Army probably would have been selected. In super important battles it's even worthwhile to spend a few AP's to effectively choose the leader. You could have changed some unit HHQ's to 18th Army before the battle and had better odds on the outcome.

Of course hindsight is 20/20 but in desperate times every trick needs to be played.

Also Coastal Army was from a different Front causing a -30% penalty. Every little bit hurts.

[BrianG]

Counter attack lineup to remove Germans which are south of the Don river.

The units in Rostov have to attack over the major river.

You will not see the result. It was bad and morale lowering.

[BrianG]

east Moscow.

[BrianG]

A little further north

lineup

[BrianG]

Another brutal loss

Very heavy Russian hoard attack casualties

[BrianG]

a little counter attack near Orel

[BrianG]

South final

one more turn till mud . I figure i can hold Rostov,. Most worried about big breakout of bridgehead.

[BrianG]

Kursk area final

[BrianG]

South Moscow final

This is where i made another huge mistake.

i was thinking tyronec would settle for what he has achieved. ah WRONG

[BrianG]

North moscow final.


I cut off 3 mech + armor divisions.

[BrianG]

far north

trying to save troops and at SAME TIME Hold the FORWARD Position

[tyronec]

South final

one more turn till mud . I figure i can hold Rostov,. Most worried about big breakout of bridgehead.

Crossing the river was a mistake on my part. The forces I had available were simply not strong enough to attempt to pocket Rostov.

[BrianG]

I hold the adjacent hex below the Don. I think this was 2 attacks.

Im feeling good ive held Rostov thru the mud.[:)]

I did not take photo of the Rostov attack

[BrianG]

And then i look to Moscow.

omg [:o]

[Shupov]

The Tula pocket was very impressive. Did all German armor come from the north? They crossed a major river and penetrated two-deep defenses seemingly with ease.

[tyronec]

I was intending to do a strong drive southwards this turn and had done HQB in preparation, as far as I can remember it was a combination left hook/right hook to seal the pocket.