Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues

KLAB · Post by **KLAB** » Sat Aug 15, 2020 1:02 pm

<type>ADDENDUM CHANGE</type>
<summary>ENABLE AT-9 SPIRAL 2 (9M120) LOADOUT #15675 FOR KA-52 and amend title</summary>
<detail>
Add the load out #15675 which is listed in the DB486 as an option for the relevant #2929 Ka-52 Hokum B -- Russia [1992-] (Army), 2017

#15675 Ka-52, Russia: AT-9 Spiral-2 [9M120 Ataka-V], S-8KO 80mm Rockets -- Not operational?
Also Change title to:
#15675 Ka-52, Russia: AT-9 Spiral-2 [9M120 Ataka-V], S-8KO 80mm Rockets
12 x #1241 AT-9 Spiral II
40 x S-8 80mm Rockets

The Ataka 9M120-1 (AT-9 Spiral II) laser ACLOS version is by far the most common missile employed by the KA-52 not the Vikhr contrary to many sources.
Production quantities of the Vikhr 9M127 were not even ordered until 2015.
</detail>
<evidence>
https://www.npovk.ru/en/produktsiya/pro ... shturm-vu/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kamov_Ka- ... _êà-52.jpg
https://southfront.org/ka-52-alligator- ... ographics/
https://youtu.be/fRoYTJFwGtQ?t=156
https://www.reddit.com/r/Warthunder/com ... ospiral_2/
https://www.ainonline.com/aviation-news ... ebut-syria
</evidence>
Thanks
K

Blast33 · Post by **Blast33** » Sat Aug 15, 2020 1:38 pm

<type>Update</type>
<summary>Greece Mirage-2000 Mica & SCALP loadouts update</summary>
<detail>HAF Mirage-2000-5 Mk2 with two drop tank, one SCALP-EG, four MICA IR and two MICA ER.
At the present loadout, only 2 Mica missiles can be carried in combination with the SCALP missle. </detail>
<evidence>
https://twitter.com/TheDeadDistrict/sta ... 9714917376
https://twitter.com/Mynamei91516847/sta ... 29/photo/1
</evidence>

Blast33 · Post by **Blast33** » Sat Aug 15, 2020 4:46 pm

<type>Update</type>
<summary>Russia has not three but two working Persona Imagery satellites update</summary>
<detail>Russia currently has only two operational optical reconnaissance satellites in orbit, both of which may already have exceeded their design lifetime. They are to be replaced by more capable satellites carrying a primary mirror about the same size as of those believed to be flown aboard American reconnaissance satellites, but it is unclear when these will be ready to fly.

fter several years of delays, the first Persona satellite was launched as Kosmos-2441 on July 26, 2008, but Russian press reports at the time said it was lost barely two months later because memory boards in its on-board computer had been rendered useless by charged particles. The next satellite, Kosmos-2486, fitted with hardened electronic components, went into orbit on June 7, 2013. Speculation in the Russian press that this satellite soon ran into trouble as well was confirmed by court documents published in 2017. These revealed that in-orbit tests of the satellite had to be interrupted from August 2013 to February 2014 due to unspecified on-board problems and were not completed until October 2014.[1] Persona nr. 3 (Kosmos-2506) was launched on June 23, 2015, into an orbit synchronized with that of the second satellite to provide maximum coverage of areas of interest on Earth. According to the same court documents, it also encountered technical problems during initial in-orbit testing and was not declared operational until November 2016. </detail>
<evidence>
https://www.thespacereview.com/article/4006/1
</evidence>

Tookatee · Post by **Tookatee** » Sat Aug 15, 2020 11:21 pm

<type>UPDATE</type>
<summary>Variants of the C-27J are missing the "probe refueling" property</summary>
<detail> The #4986 EC-26 plus the #613 and #4564 C-27J's are all missing the "probe refueling" property despite the fact that the aircraft delivered to these nations in question (Italy and Lithuania) came with a refueling probe for use in drogue-refueling. </detail>
<evidence>
1:

Lithuanian Air-force C-27J with refueling probe clearly visible.
2:

Italian C-27J conducting aerial refueling from a KC-767 during initial testing.
3: https://www.leonardocompany.com/en/products/c-27j-1 Manufacturer's product page displaying aerial refueling probe on existing aircraft.
4:

EC-27J with refueling probe visible.
5: https://youtu.be/SiAW6u4Yt1w?t=195 Italian Air Force C-27J flying through Death Valley in 2019, refueling probe clearly visible.
</evidence>

UncertainlyCertain · Post by **UncertainlyCertain** » Sun Aug 16, 2020 11:08 am

<type>UPDATE</type>
<summary>Update on the KC-390 capabilities</summary>
<detail>Here is some data about the KC-390 (aircraft DB ID #4013) capabilities taken from wikipedia and a brochure from Embraer:

- max. payload is up to 26t, tough this is for a heavily loaded aircraft

- (relatively) short TOD/LAD: at max. payload of 23t the TOD is 1524m and 1165m for 16t. LAD for a 26t laden aircraft is 1000m. This along with a low stall speed (104kts) and the capability to fly as slow as 120kts for AR of helicopters (as per wikipedia in the Design section and in the brochure) hints that the TOD/LAD may be changed to 901-1400m to better reflect actual capabilities

- flight range for a ferry flight, 14t, 23t and 26t payload as well as extended ferry are listed in the brochure, currently in-game this figures are quite close to the officially declared values, just for reference

- the aircraft is built with a refueling probe as standard but lacks such feature under the proprieties tab

- the aircraft is designed to be able to double as tanker with 2 wing drogues, currently in-game it lacks such feature. According to wikipedia the total fuel capacity is listed as 35t i.e. 12t payload fuel (3x aux. internal fuel tanks) + 23t own fuel. Portuguese wikipedia puts the max. AR mission range as 2495 km (1348 nm c.a.)

- the aircraft is able to paradrop loads up to 19t (42000 lb) and deliver by LAPES up to 10t (22000 lb). Currently in-game it lacks a cargo air drop feature. Info found on the brochure, link #2

- the aircraft is supposed to have fly-by-wire, currently it lacks such feature under the proprieties tab

- it supposedly mounts, as standard, countermeasures in the form of: chaff & flares, DIRCM, RWR, LWR and MAWS, generic versions of such systems as present in the DB may be used to represent them. Reference in the wikipedia and the brochure links

- following the (unsuccessful) Embraer-Boeing joint venture the aircraft was re-branded as C-390 Millenium. I suggest a name amendment: Embraer KC-390 -- Brazil (Air Force), 2018 --> C-390 Millennium [KC-390] -- Brazil (Air Force), 2018

- apart from 28 orders by the Forza Aerea Brasileira, there are also 12 orders from Colombia, 6 by Argentina, 6 by Chile, 6 by Portugal (5+1 optional), 2 by Czech Republic, so you may add this users too if you wish, at least the Portuguese order is certain
</detail>
<evidence>1: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embraer_C-390_Millennium
2: https://defense.embraer.com/global/en/c-390
</evidence>

Tookatee · Post by **Tookatee** » Sun Aug 16, 2020 1:56 pm

<type>ADD</type>
<summary>Countries missing the C-27J</summary>
<detail>The following countries are missing the C-27J despite the aircraft having been ordered and put into service by them all;

The USA with an IOC of 2010 (with its first combat deployment in Afghanistan in 2011), although all 38 of the C-27J's were retired from the USAF by 2013. However, at that time seven of them were transferred to US SOCOM and 14 of them went to the Coast Guard, with these undergoing renovation to become the HC-27J which itself has an IOC of 2017.) None of the US aircraft had refueling probes, but in all other respects were near identical to the #613 C-27.

Greece with an IOC of 2004 and a total of eight aircraft, all still in service. Similar to #613 except with no refueling probe.

Mexico with an IOC of 2011 and a total of four aircraft, all still in service. Similar to #613 except with no refueling probe.

Morocco with an IOC of 2010 and a total of four aircraft, all still in service. Similar to #613 except with no refueling probe.

Peru with an IOC of 2015 and a total of four aircraft, all still in service. Similar to #613 except with no refueling probe.

Romania with an IOC of 2010 and a total of seven aircraft, all still in service. Similar to #613 except with no refueling probe.

Slovakia with an IOC of 2015 and a total of two aircraft, all still in service. Similar to #613 except with no refueling probe.

Chad (a country that's also missing from the database by the way) with an IOC of 2013 and a total of two aircraft, all still in service. Similar to #613 except with no refueling probe.

Zambia with an IOC of 2019 and a total of two aircraft, all still in service. Similar to #613 except with no refueling probe.

And Kenya with an IOC of 2020 and a total of two aircraft, all still in service. Similar to #613 except with no refueling probe.
</detail>
<evidence>
1: https://web.archive.org/web/20120723011 ... artan.aspx
2: https://www.dcms.uscg.mil/Our-Organizat ... m-Profile/
3:

American HC-27J and C-27J.
4:

Greek C-27J.
5: https://www.flightglobal.com/download?ac=66025
6: https://www.flightglobal.com/mexican-ai ... 55.article
7: SIPRI Arms Transfer Database
8: https://theaviationist.com/2011/09/21/m ... nal-debut/
9:

Mexican C-27J.
10:

Moroccan C-27J.
11: https://www.flightglobal.com/peruvian-a ... 99.article
12:

Peruvian C-27J.
13:

Romanian and several other European C-27J's at Exercise European Spartan 2019 in Romania.
14:

Brigadier Githinji on behalf of the Kenya Air Force receiving the final certificate of inspection from the LEORNARDO SpA Company Vice President Mr.Luka Napolitano.
15: http://www.mod.go.ke/?p=13065#:~:text=T ... nya%20Navy. Kenyan Ministry of Defenses' website on the C-27J commissioning.
16:

Chad C-27J.
17: https://web.archive.org/web/20151117063 ... ricom.html
18: https://www.defenceweb.co.za/aerospace/ ... delivered/
19:

Zambian C-27J.
</evidence>

BDukes · Post by **BDukes** » Mon Aug 17, 2020 10:46 am

<type>NEW</type>
<summary>Add Spanish Ro-Ro MPS Ships. Add A-04 Martín Posadillo (1990) and A-05 El Camino Español (1999-2019) </summary>
<detail>Add A-04 Martín Posadillo (1990) and A-05 El Camino Español (1999-2019). See links for stat. Civilian Nav Radars. Helo pad for Chinook on Posadillo</detail>
<evidence>
https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/20 ... -missions/
https://www.losbarcosdeeugenio.com/barc ... e_A05.html
https://www.losbarcosdeeugenio.com/barc ... e_A04.html
</evidence>

BDukes · Post by **BDukes** » Mon Aug 17, 2020 11:00 am

<type>Update</type>
<summary>Add GBU-31 + GBU-54 or GBU/38 loadout for F-15E </summary>
<detail>Found picture of F-15E loadout. Wing- Amraam, SidewinderX, Fuel tank, Center- Sniper pod, Lantirn, 6 GBU-54 or 6 GBU-38 and 1 GBU-31</detail>
<evidence>
https://twitter.com/USAFCENT/status/122 ... 01/photo/4
https://twitter.com/kadonkey/status/129 ... 52/photo/1
https://twitter.com/CENTCOM/status/1245 ... 20/photo/2
</evidence>

BDukes · Post by **BDukes** » Mon Aug 17, 2020 11:18 am

<type>Update</type>
<summary>Add Bulgarian SU-22M-4R 1984 </summary>
<detail>Bulgarian Communists got SU-22M-4R recce variant with standard SU-22M-4. Similar to #2667</detail>
<evidence>
https://twitter.com/Fighting_Fitter/sta ... 1411908614
</evidence>

BDukes · Post by **BDukes** » Mon Aug 17, 2020 11:23 am

<type>Add</type>
<summary>Add Iranian SU-22M3 2016</summary>
<detail>Iran get both SU-33M3 variant from Iraq. Included in modernization recently. Notice smooth M3 and Block M4 tail mountings in picture.</detail>
<evidence>
https://twitter.com/Fighting_Fitter/sta ... 65/photo/1
</evidence>

BDukes · Post by **BDukes** » Mon Aug 17, 2020 11:46 am

fguerin35 · Post by **fguerin35** » Tue Aug 18, 2020 8:07 am

Hi there,

Would it be possible to make 2 entries for the ship #231 C612 Colbert?
- 1 for the original status (1959-1969) would be in the CWDB
- 1 for the final status (1972-1991) : has aircraft facilities for Dauphin/Alouette helo
link: http://www.netmarine.net/bat/croiseur/c ... racter.htm

Thanks in advance, regards,
François "Gunny" Guérin

ArcticWolf33 · Post by **ArcticWolf33** » Tue Aug 18, 2020 11:05 pm

<type>Update</type>
<summary>Aegis DDG's and CG's dont have Link-16</summary>
<detail>A lot of the DDG and CG unit's for the US side are missing Link-16, most aegis cruisers and destroyers are equipped with Link-16 capability</detail>
<evidence>I can't post links</evidence>

BDukes · Post by **BDukes** » Wed Aug 19, 2020 2:06 pm

<type>Update</type>
<summary>Replace #361 with Mig-23MS Variant. 1990 </summary>
<detail>Libya "donate" Mig-23MS hulks to Sudan. Flight history not great but restoration recently. Current version is Mig-23BM that is different aircraft. Could not find record of Sudan having that kind.</detail>
<evidence>
https://www.oryxspioenkop.com/2016/09/b ... g-23s.html
</evidence>

BDukes · Post by **BDukes** » Wed Aug 19, 2020 2:15 pm

<type>NEW</type>
<summary>Add Sudanese BO-105 1978</summary>
<detail>Sudan get 8 BO-105 from Germany in 1978. Carry gun and rocket pod. #1455 in database look close.</detail>
<evidence>
https://www.oryxspioenkop.com/2016/06/b ... -105s.html
https://www.defenceweb.co.za/aerospace/ ... 5-crashes/
</evidence>

BDukes · Post by **BDukes** » Wed Aug 19, 2020 2:26 pm

<type>NEW</type>
<summary>Add U.N. Falco Drone x5 2014</summary>
<detail>United Nation buy Italian Falco Drone. First use in 2013.Copy #4382</detail>
<evidence>
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-25197754
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selex_ES_Falco
</evidence>

BDukes · Post by **BDukes** » Wed Aug 19, 2020 2:45 pm

<type>Update</type>
<summary>Russia Tac Air and PVO retire Mig-29A in 2013 and Mig-29C in 2016.</summary>
<detail>Russia Tac Air and PVO retire Mig-29A(#1050)in 2013 and Mig-29C(#1049)in 2016.Replace with Flankers. SU-30+ #2017 is what is in Armenias</detail>
<evidence>
https://www.edrmagazine.eu/retirement-o ... af-mig-29s
https://www.scramble.nl/orbats/russia
</evidence>

BDukes · Post by **BDukes** » Wed Aug 19, 2020 3:15 pm

<type>New</type>
<summary>Add Chinese BL-755 to loadouts to Q-5, JH-7, JH-7A</summary>
<detail>Chinese manufacture BL-755 340kg cluster bomb clone. Q-5s use JH-7 and JH-7A as well. Like receive in 1990s when relation with UK arms establish or when exporting arms to Zimbabwe.</detail>
<evidence>
https://twitter.com/HaoGao12/status/1294521804246065153
https://i.imgur.com/P8asU.jpg
http://the-monitor.org/en-gb/reports/20 ... olicy.aspx
</evidence>

BDukes · Post by **BDukes** » Wed Aug 19, 2020 5:23 pm

<type>Update</type>
<summary>Add Long Range loadout for Z-10 and Z-19 and heavy loadout for Z-19.</summary>
<detail>Add Long Range loadout for Z-10 (#2493) and Z-19 (3305). Look at exercise picture see 2 droptank (look like 77 gallon similar to Cobras) on each wing, and then a 7 90mm rocket launch on one wing and 4 ATGM on other. Z-19 Also has heavy 16 ATGM loadout, assume same for Z-10.</detail>
<evidence>
https://imgur.com/v1T72jD
https://imgur.com/48xe7rG
https://imgur.com/QJLrquM
https://www.businessinsider.in/Fully-Ar ... 418346.cms
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/3 ... e-exercise
</evidence>

BDukes · Post by **BDukes** » Wed Aug 19, 2020 5:52 pm

<type>Update</type>
<summary>Add M1A2 SEP tanks with Trophy US Army 2020. </summary>
<detail>Need to add variant with Trophy system. Make harder to hit.Look like M1A2 SEPv2 (2018), SEPv3(2020) get and Sepv4 will get (2021+). Trophy in db already added to Merkava IV #2447. Perhaps add army data link good idea.That start with SEP V3 in 2010</detail>
<evidence>
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/2 ... or-emerges
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/1 ... ion-system
https://militaryleak.com/2020/07/20/us- ... o-germany/
https://asc.army.mil/web/portfolio-item ... ttle-tank/
https://armyrecognition.com/october_201 ... ystem.html
https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/ ... ank-117576
</evidence>

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