brianG v tyronec anatomy of disaster all welcome

[Grognard1812]

Looking back to turn 15 and 16 you could see in hindsight the potential for a large Tula pocket. When multiple German units were situated east of Moscow on turn 16, I think the Soviet player should have moved all his units around Tula further east to straighten out his defensive line - leaving a large Kursk like bulge in 1941 or 1942 in this game I think usually only results in large pockets being formed by an experienced German player.

[eskuche]

I think another major point is stacking three units along a front that is already sketchy. IMHO hard walls in hard terrain with a minimal rear checkerboard, whereas active fronts with infantry and panzer need a minimum three deep line only AFTER which you can consider beefing up the front row. No point in concentrating forces that can be bypassed, or worse, encircled.

[BrianG]

I was intending to do a strong drive southwards this turn and had done HQB in preparation, as far as I can remember it was a combination left hook/right hook to seal the pocket.

I felt at risk in any direction.

If Tula retreated, he may just have gone East. or southeast or north west. just difficult . Losing the units north of Moscow was the doom.

From where i began turn 14 to this. very hard end of summer.

[BrianG]

Rostov counter.

They are back north of the DON. Not sure where Model went to.

the quote was

' it was a miracle'

[BrianG]

Late summer Moscow victory.

[BrianG]

rostov final

next mud or it better be

[BrianG]

south Moscow final.

I try to break thru but not chance.

He will have very long mp's to these tanks during the mud season.

[BrianG]

east Moscow.

I saved my 2 cities here but just horrible.

[BrianG]

North final

Im squeezed in between the german and fins

[BrianG]

air kia end of summer

[BrianG]

ground kia end of summer

[BrianG]

OOB end of summer

I have many troops trapped and starving. All over the map

[BrianG]

The weather chart is thrown for a loop

Snow turn 18 in the middle, and the north forecast is Snow turn 19.

[BrianG]

Here was where i found bad surrender issue (IMO)

This unit was supplied. And frankly not very far from supply.

Rout rule needs tweak. and oil change.

[BrianG]

OK so here is the very large mp's for German tanks in Mud.

Thus the question raised is will these tanks have lots of fuel at the end of mud If they dont move the whole time.
B/c they should be low while stuck in the mud.

[BrianG]

A very good Russian raid on German short range recon

[BrianG]

Russian mud attack on low supple German forward positions

Is this a good loss or a bad loss?

[BrianG]

The pocket.

Really way too many troops in the pocket.

final

[BrianG]

lower south

I think the front is wide open but i cant do anything about it

[BrianG]

moscow final