Hell Hath Frozen Over (Scout1 (J) vs Lowpe (A)

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Why on earth he sent 2 ocean liners, the biggest available, to Iba??? that is a really stupid move,

it is also and exploitation of the Japanese early amphibious bonus, there is no way on earth they could have unloaded at a quick rate unless docked at port
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This is a big turn, if not really too exciting, I guess it is a kind of sad turn too, I suspect if all goes well it will probably mean a very early Allied auto-victory. Probably would even if it just goes satisfactorily.

Scott simply isn't using any of his units well.[:(]

by auto-victory, do you mean your opponent conceding defeat? I don't see you can get an early auto-victory otherwise
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Dec 23 and 34, 1942

Cats strike...IJA troopers drown.



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The other issue with this: Why pack so many troops, 13,000, on 2 transports? On transports that are way too big to unload on Luzon at this point?

There's enough shipping for the Empire to spread it out, and anyway any troops being sent to Luzon should be in Amphib mode right now, because there isn't a decent port available.

That's also puzzling
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Why on earth he sent 2 ocean liners, the biggest available, to Iba??? that is a really stupid move,

it is also and exploitation of the Japanese early amphibious bonus, there is no way on earth they could have unloaded at a quick rate unless docked at port
3 of those 21 speed liners can handle a whole division, this trinity is like a Queen type for the Japanese. I try to never put them in harms way, they are the best long range troop express Japan will ever have. That "exploitation" is actually a boon to the Allies because of the opportunity to kill those ships.
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Ok, so the game plan is to use FPs as disruptive cover...... I did some trial runs, and some runs cost me an old CL. Is day 1 Singkawang worth a 20% chance of losing a CL among a few other misc shipping?
You did not specify anything about settings and forces you used and draw universal conclusions? Not the way to refer to your tests methinks. There are several AVs at start, there are combat ships with several FPs that are relatively useless elsewhere. My FP cover works just fine against unescorted bombers all the time
Running off the runs I did in the past.... I was using the starting naval forces at Cam Ranh Bay. 1 AV with 6ish FPs, 100% cap, altitude 8000. Combat replay shows the CAP intercepting. I am asking these questions as part of a learning journey, since obviously I have knowledge gaps......
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I put up a graphic in the open thread about this disaster, it would be really helpful if you could point some of this stuff out to Scout1 by commenting there.

Many thanks.[:)]
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The 3 Asama marus are great for liners, should be used to "transport" troops from the HI to big important ports like Singapore, Bangkok or Soerabaja

For me the question is should I escort them? [X(]
they have a fast cruise speed that get reduced significantly if I attach DDs
this is even more pronounced on the QEs... they cruise comfortably at speeds that for other ships would be flank



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The 3 Asama marus are great for liners, should be used to "transport" troops from the HI to big important ports like Singapore, Bangkok or Soerabaja

For me the question is should I escort them? [X(]
they have a fast cruise speed that get reduced significantly if I attach DDs
this is even more pronounced on the QEs... they cruise comfortably at speeds that for other ships would be flank
Even though the speed of The Queen is really great, in an early game I found her still quite vulnerable to IJN subs. Maybe just a minor game shortcoming.

So, yes, I would escort them unless they are transiting places you are quite certain are free of enemy subs.
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The 3 Asama marus are great for liners, should be used to "transport" troops from the HI to big important ports like Singapore, Bangkok or Soerabaja

For me the question is should I escort them? [X(]
they have a fast cruise speed that get reduced significantly if I attach DDs
this is even more pronounced on the QEs... they cruise comfortably at speeds that for other ships would be flank
Even though the speed of The Queen is really great, in an early game I found her still quite vulnerable to IJN subs. Maybe just a minor game shortcoming.

So, yes, I would escort them unless they are transiting places you are quite certain are free of enemy subs.

Her starting Captain is horrible and starting crew experience beyond horrible.
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This is a big turn, if not really too exciting, I guess it is a kind of sad turn too, I suspect if all goes well it will probably mean a very early Allied auto-victory. Probably would even if it just goes satisfactorily.

Scott simply isn't using any of his units well.[:(]

by auto-victory, do you mean your opponent conceding defeat? I don't see you can get an early auto-victory otherwise

Although the former may happen, I specifically meant the latter.

Oh, ye of little faith.[:)]
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The 3 Asama marus are great for liners, should be used to "transport" troops from the HI to big important ports like Singapore, Bangkok or Soerabaja

For me the question is should I escort them? [X(]
they have a fast cruise speed that get reduced significantly if I attach DDs
this is even more pronounced on the QEs... they cruise comfortably at speeds that for other ships would be flank
Even though the speed of The Queen is really great, in an early game I found her still quite vulnerable to IJN subs. Maybe just a minor game shortcoming.

So, yes, I would escort them unless they are transiting places you are quite certain are free of enemy subs.

Her starting Captain is horrible and starting crew experience beyond horrible.
Doubt I even looked...
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This is a big turn, if not really too exciting, I guess it is a kind of sad turn too, I suspect if all goes well it will probably mean a very early Allied auto-victory. Probably would even if it just goes satisfactorily.

Scott simply isn't using any of his units well.[:(]

by auto-victory, do you mean your opponent conceding defeat? I don't see you can get an early auto-victory otherwise

Although the former may happen, I specifically meant the latter.

Oh, ye of little faith.[:)]

Maybe this is a ploy, to see how to defend as an Allied player . . .
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Even though the speed of The Queen is really great, in an early game I found her still quite vulnerable to IJN subs. Maybe just a minor game shortcoming.

So, yes, I would escort them unless they are transiting places you are quite certain are free of enemy subs.

Her starting Captain is horrible and starting crew experience beyond horrible.
Doubt I even looked...

I think she starts at 7 experience, and peaks at 15. The Captain is under 20 naval.
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Her starting Captain is horrible and starting crew experience beyond horrible.
Doubt I even looked...

I think she starts at 7 experience, and peaks at 15. The Captain is under 20 naval.
[X(]
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Captain Edward Smith I presume... "If I go fast enough, we'll be safe, can I get some tea please...?"
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the real captain of a QE liner would have more years of sea experience than the entire officers' crew of a WW2 cruiser

liners were always at sea, moving from port to port in a regular schedule, their crews were very competent and experienced

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Dec 25th and 26th, 1941

Wake Island....not detected....dare I keep unloading for another two days. I think not, no reason to be greedy. All the CD guns are down, minefields laid, Stuarts in prepared positions.

Nothing detected, and no DL on the sub pickets.



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Japan is a tough task master when it comes to driving pilots and planes hard.



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No clue what IJ's plan is for China...

Supply now at 202K, the first Indian Mtn Gun is marching to Kweiyang, 254th Armor is at Lashio preparing for a road march to Paoshan. Ledo building quickly. Allies have accomplished all their early goals here.

IJA attacks Foochaw, and Chinese corp beats them off with a 1-2. Need to decide if I should retreat here, since it is open, but it could divert bombers from Luzon. Probably will leave. Only 1 Corp is present, the better corp already left.

Already have forts 2 in a lot of off base festungs. At this pace Japan will be facing forts 4-5.

Loyang and the base to its south is held by a measly fraction of a corp, can't believe Japan doesn't take them.



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