Been thinking about the upcoming Okinawa invasion. I've done a pretty good job of minimizing losses in the war, while steadily advancing. But I think the time has come for a change in approach. Okinawa must be taken, and it is a tough target. Enemy troops are dug in, mines are there, it is within air range from Japan, and most importantly, enemy battleships and cruisers can attack the landing zones at night and be back in Japan during the day. It's going to be tough.
I need to change my mindset, I think, and use brute force at Okinawa. I need to accept losses in order to take the island. At this point in the war, I can certainly do so. I will need to flood Naha and Nago with minesweepers, and hit them with slow battleships daily. And cover the targets with battleships and cruisers to guard against enemy ships which certainly will arrive.
There will be losses. I need to accept that. Okinawa is a necessary step for the future landings on the southern island of Japan. It's time to throw the kitchen sink at it.
Did You Know I Used to Drive a Rollercoaster?: Apbarog(A) vs OPilot(J)
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RE: Did You Know I Used to Drive a Rollercoaster?: Apbarog(A) vs OPilot(J)
27 Feb 44
The usual 5 slow US battleship bombardment of Hong Kong. The British are slowly making their way to the hex between Hong Kong and Canton. The battleships are headed to Takao. They'll then head towards Okinawa with the carriers covering.
Sub Sterlet hit patrol boat Shirogane Maru near Toyohara. No indication of sinking. Could have been a false report. Tautog sank sub chaser CHa-31 near Fukue-jima. Searaven hit xAK Goyo Maru with a torpedo near Chichi-jima. No troops on board.
26 Georges swept Miyako-jima, and found 25 P-47s on CAP. It was shocking. 22 Thunderbolts were shot down with no Georges downed. The enemy swept at 30000 feet. The P-47s were at 25000 feet. A contributing factor could have been that there is no radar at the island. The base support was flown in, and the radar is inbound on a ship. The P-47 pilots were excellent. The George pilots must have been god-like.
Okinawa invasion shipping is leaving Manila. Other shipping is starting to load at Takao.
The usual 5 slow US battleship bombardment of Hong Kong. The British are slowly making their way to the hex between Hong Kong and Canton. The battleships are headed to Takao. They'll then head towards Okinawa with the carriers covering.
Sub Sterlet hit patrol boat Shirogane Maru near Toyohara. No indication of sinking. Could have been a false report. Tautog sank sub chaser CHa-31 near Fukue-jima. Searaven hit xAK Goyo Maru with a torpedo near Chichi-jima. No troops on board.
26 Georges swept Miyako-jima, and found 25 P-47s on CAP. It was shocking. 22 Thunderbolts were shot down with no Georges downed. The enemy swept at 30000 feet. The P-47s were at 25000 feet. A contributing factor could have been that there is no radar at the island. The base support was flown in, and the radar is inbound on a ship. The P-47 pilots were excellent. The George pilots must have been god-like.
Okinawa invasion shipping is leaving Manila. Other shipping is starting to load at Takao.
RE: Did You Know I Used to Drive a Rollercoaster?: Apbarog(A) vs OPilot(J)
28 Feb 44
Over 60 Franks swept Changsha. P-40Ns, Spitfires and P-38Js were on CAP. 16 Franks were downed, for the cost of 4 Chinese P-40Ns, 3 P-38Js and 3 Spitfires.
A bombing raid of Pucheng, east of the Chinese pocket, revealed the enemy 1st Raiding Regiment defending. Looks to be a unit that was sent from Japan to hold the line in front of Shanghai. The Americans weren't headed that way, but the enemy didn't know that. I'd seen transports coming and going from Shanghai, so troops were sent to China from Japan. I'm quite ok with that.
Still reducing the isolated enemy 1st Division at Temuloh in Malaya. They are being destroyed, but only slowly.
US carriers and slow battleships will move east of Formosa, beginning the run into Okinawa. Transports will leave Takao tomorrow and join up with others coming north from Manila.
Over 60 Franks swept Changsha. P-40Ns, Spitfires and P-38Js were on CAP. 16 Franks were downed, for the cost of 4 Chinese P-40Ns, 3 P-38Js and 3 Spitfires.
A bombing raid of Pucheng, east of the Chinese pocket, revealed the enemy 1st Raiding Regiment defending. Looks to be a unit that was sent from Japan to hold the line in front of Shanghai. The Americans weren't headed that way, but the enemy didn't know that. I'd seen transports coming and going from Shanghai, so troops were sent to China from Japan. I'm quite ok with that.
Still reducing the isolated enemy 1st Division at Temuloh in Malaya. They are being destroyed, but only slowly.
US carriers and slow battleships will move east of Formosa, beginning the run into Okinawa. Transports will leave Takao tomorrow and join up with others coming north from Manila.
RE: Did You Know I Used to Drive a Rollercoaster?: Apbarog(A) vs OPilot(J)
No turn from OPilot today. He's dealing with a massive reorganization of Japanese air units that occurs on March 1, 1944. I'm happy to see March arrive. I'll be getting 175 P47D25s a month instead of 56 P47D2s. I'll finally be able to use the Thunderbolts every day. I bleed the P47D2 pool dry as it is now.
Invasion of Okinawa within the next week.
Invasion of Okinawa within the next week.
RE: Did You Know I Used to Drive a Rollercoaster?: Apbarog(A) vs OPilot(J)
29 Feb 44
Those pesky Georges on Okinawa were at it again. They swept Ishigaki, finding 15 P-38Js and 12 Hellcats. The George pilots are definitely elite, with lots of US planes downed. 7 Georges were downed, mostly as ops losses. 9 Hellcats and 6 P-38Js were lost.
Allied planes from Milne Bay swept Rabaul, with 16 Corsairs and 14 Spitfires sweeping. They found 32 Zeros and 24 Tojos. 6 Zeros and 4 Tojos were shot down, for the cost of 8 Corsairs and 3 Spitfires.
The approach to Okinawa has begun.
Those pesky Georges on Okinawa were at it again. They swept Ishigaki, finding 15 P-38Js and 12 Hellcats. The George pilots are definitely elite, with lots of US planes downed. 7 Georges were downed, mostly as ops losses. 9 Hellcats and 6 P-38Js were lost.
Allied planes from Milne Bay swept Rabaul, with 16 Corsairs and 14 Spitfires sweeping. They found 32 Zeros and 24 Tojos. 6 Zeros and 4 Tojos were shot down, for the cost of 8 Corsairs and 3 Spitfires.
The approach to Okinawa has begun.
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2 Mar 44
Shark fired 6 torpedoes at I-12 north of Okinawa. All missed. Pompano hit RO-104 with 2 torpedoes near Tokunoshima, sinking the Japanese sub.
The fight for Okinawa has begun.
Battleships Arizona and Idaho, with 3 destroyers, ran into 5 MTBs at Nago. 3 MTBs were sunk. The range was just 2,000 yards, so the US ships were lucky to avoid torpedoes. One was fired at a battleship and missed.
Similar fight at Naha. Battleships Oklahoma, California and Tennessee, with 5 destroyers, ran into 2 MTBs. An MTB was sunk. With rain at Naha also, the range was just 2,000 yards. Both Naha and Nago had 4 US destroyers run into the bases first, but the DDs didn't engage the MTBs.
2 US DMS at Nago were fired on by the 11th Special Base Force. DMS Southard was set on fire. 4 US YMSs were also engaged by the 11th. 3 were set on fire.
At Naha, 4 other YMSs were engaged by the 21st Special Base Force. 3 were hit. 3 US DMS sank ACM Wa 20 at Naha. A big cruiser force sank a fleeing MTB from Naha. The cruisers were protecting the carriers east of Naha.
Nago was bombarded effectively.
Night Naval bombardment of Nago at 95,65
Japanese aircraft
no flights
Japanese aircraft losses
D3A2 Val: 8 damaged
D3A2 Val: 1 destroyed on ground
Ki-51 Sonia: 22 damaged
Ki-51 Sonia: 2 destroyed on ground
Allied Ships
BB Idaho
BB Arizona
Japanese ground losses:
1150 casualties reported
Squads: 3 destroyed, 9 disabled
Non Combat: 39 destroyed, 40 disabled
Engineers: 6 destroyed, 4 disabled
Guns lost 5 (1 destroyed, 4 disabled)
Vehicles lost 2 (1 destroyed, 1 disabled)
Airbase hits 16
Airbase supply hits 5
Runway hits 31
Naha was bombarded but with poorer results.
Night Naval bombardment of Naha at 95,66
Japanese aircraft
no flights
Japanese aircraft losses
N1K1-J George: 1 damaged
Allied Ships
BB Tennessee
BB California
BB Oklahoma
Japanese ground losses:
333 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 8 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 19 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Manpower hits 1
Fires 1575
Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 8
Lots of mines were swept at Nago and Naha. The 3 US DMS were hit by more coastal guns. RO-44 sank already badly damaged YMS BYMS-2043 near Naha.
The enemy lost an ACM, 2 AMs, 5 MTBs, 4 SCs and 1 or 2 subs. The Allies lost 2 YMSs with a few more badly damaged and trying to make it to safety. I've been particularly effective at losing lots of small minesweepers to coastal guns.
There was no enemy flying above Okinawa. Lots of B-24s hit both locations. Carrier aircraft sank 2 AMs and 3 SCs in port at Amami Oshima.
CVs and CVEs will rendezvous 2 hexes west of Nago and will range CAP at range 2. I showed a more forward setup first, but will back off to the west now. Nago and Naha will be invaded today. 3 divisions to Naha, 2 to Nago.
Two instances of ship collisions. Two xAKs collided east of Luganville. They were empty and headed back to the West Coast. xAK B.F. Irvine sank immediately, with xAK Sapphire damaged at SYS 2/FLOT 33/ENG 30/FIRE 0. Two LSTs loaded with troops collided west of Nago. Both are headed to Naha, now very slowly, and in their own TF with a small escort ship.
Shark fired 6 torpedoes at I-12 north of Okinawa. All missed. Pompano hit RO-104 with 2 torpedoes near Tokunoshima, sinking the Japanese sub.
The fight for Okinawa has begun.
Battleships Arizona and Idaho, with 3 destroyers, ran into 5 MTBs at Nago. 3 MTBs were sunk. The range was just 2,000 yards, so the US ships were lucky to avoid torpedoes. One was fired at a battleship and missed.
Similar fight at Naha. Battleships Oklahoma, California and Tennessee, with 5 destroyers, ran into 2 MTBs. An MTB was sunk. With rain at Naha also, the range was just 2,000 yards. Both Naha and Nago had 4 US destroyers run into the bases first, but the DDs didn't engage the MTBs.
2 US DMS at Nago were fired on by the 11th Special Base Force. DMS Southard was set on fire. 4 US YMSs were also engaged by the 11th. 3 were set on fire.
At Naha, 4 other YMSs were engaged by the 21st Special Base Force. 3 were hit. 3 US DMS sank ACM Wa 20 at Naha. A big cruiser force sank a fleeing MTB from Naha. The cruisers were protecting the carriers east of Naha.
Nago was bombarded effectively.
Night Naval bombardment of Nago at 95,65
Japanese aircraft
no flights
Japanese aircraft losses
D3A2 Val: 8 damaged
D3A2 Val: 1 destroyed on ground
Ki-51 Sonia: 22 damaged
Ki-51 Sonia: 2 destroyed on ground
Allied Ships
BB Idaho
BB Arizona
Japanese ground losses:
1150 casualties reported
Squads: 3 destroyed, 9 disabled
Non Combat: 39 destroyed, 40 disabled
Engineers: 6 destroyed, 4 disabled
Guns lost 5 (1 destroyed, 4 disabled)
Vehicles lost 2 (1 destroyed, 1 disabled)
Airbase hits 16
Airbase supply hits 5
Runway hits 31
Naha was bombarded but with poorer results.
Night Naval bombardment of Naha at 95,66
Japanese aircraft
no flights
Japanese aircraft losses
N1K1-J George: 1 damaged
Allied Ships
BB Tennessee
BB California
BB Oklahoma
Japanese ground losses:
333 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 8 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 19 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Manpower hits 1
Fires 1575
Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 8
Lots of mines were swept at Nago and Naha. The 3 US DMS were hit by more coastal guns. RO-44 sank already badly damaged YMS BYMS-2043 near Naha.
The enemy lost an ACM, 2 AMs, 5 MTBs, 4 SCs and 1 or 2 subs. The Allies lost 2 YMSs with a few more badly damaged and trying to make it to safety. I've been particularly effective at losing lots of small minesweepers to coastal guns.
There was no enemy flying above Okinawa. Lots of B-24s hit both locations. Carrier aircraft sank 2 AMs and 3 SCs in port at Amami Oshima.
CVs and CVEs will rendezvous 2 hexes west of Nago and will range CAP at range 2. I showed a more forward setup first, but will back off to the west now. Nago and Naha will be invaded today. 3 divisions to Naha, 2 to Nago.
Two instances of ship collisions. Two xAKs collided east of Luganville. They were empty and headed back to the West Coast. xAK B.F. Irvine sank immediately, with xAK Sapphire damaged at SYS 2/FLOT 33/ENG 30/FIRE 0. Two LSTs loaded with troops collided west of Nago. Both are headed to Naha, now very slowly, and in their own TF with a small escort ship.
RE: Did You Know I Used to Drive a Rollercoaster?: Apbarog(A) vs OPilot(J)
Looks like Nago had low forts and Naha has level 5 or more.
No matter how bad a situation is, you can always make it worse. - Chris Hadfield : An Astronaut's Guide To Life On Earth
RE: Did You Know I Used to Drive a Rollercoaster?: Apbarog(A) vs OPilot(J)
3 Mar 44
Combat troops unload completely in one day at Nago and Naha on Okinawa. All of the good APAs were used. A specialized amphibious HQ on command ships were used at both locations. Troops will attack at both locations today. There are many units at both bases, but none are particularly strong. No divisions and no unit with more than 100 combat value. The US divisions should prevail here, but with the defensible terrain and the forts that must exist, it won't fall immediately. Battleships will continue bombarding and bombers will continue hitting the troops. Another YMS was lost to coastal guns, but the enemy fire has been reduced. All mines at Naha have been swept. Several LSTs were damaged by coastal guns but damage is just minor or moderate. 4 LCIs were also damaged. No enemy air or naval interference.
Mostly British troops have moved into Hong Kong, which will be attacked today. 2 US slow battleships are supporting, and many, many bombers are contributing.
Combat troops unload completely in one day at Nago and Naha on Okinawa. All of the good APAs were used. A specialized amphibious HQ on command ships were used at both locations. Troops will attack at both locations today. There are many units at both bases, but none are particularly strong. No divisions and no unit with more than 100 combat value. The US divisions should prevail here, but with the defensible terrain and the forts that must exist, it won't fall immediately. Battleships will continue bombarding and bombers will continue hitting the troops. Another YMS was lost to coastal guns, but the enemy fire has been reduced. All mines at Naha have been swept. Several LSTs were damaged by coastal guns but damage is just minor or moderate. 4 LCIs were also damaged. No enemy air or naval interference.
Mostly British troops have moved into Hong Kong, which will be attacked today. 2 US slow battleships are supporting, and many, many bombers are contributing.
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4 Mar 44
Unloading continued at Nago and Naha, mostly supply. Another LST is hit by coastal guns but not badly damaged. Battleships continue to bombard.
18 P-38s swept Sian, finding 28 Oscars and shooting down 12 of them.
3 big attacks today, and results were similar in all. Pardon the long text of combat, but it's worth noting the units involved at these first battles at these locations.
Ground combat at Nago (95,65)
Allied Deliberate attack
Attacking force 25718 troops, 430 guns, 477 vehicles, Assault Value = 832
Defending force 13566 troops, 114 guns, 36 vehicles, Assault Value = 251
Allied adjusted assault: 1393
Japanese adjusted defense: 430
Allied assault odds: 3 to 1 (fort level 4)
Allied Assault reduces fortifications to 3
Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), disruption(-), preparation(-)
experience(-)
Attacker:
Japanese ground losses:
2050 casualties reported
Squads: 42 destroyed, 64 disabled
Non Combat: 5 destroyed, 27 disabled
Engineers: 2 destroyed, 24 disabled
Guns lost 24 (9 destroyed, 15 disabled)
Vehicles lost 12 (5 destroyed, 7 disabled)
Allied ground losses:
396 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 36 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 9 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Assaulting units:
7th Infantry Division
708th Amphib Tank Battalion
41st Infantry Division
754th Tank Battalion
XI US Corps
97th Field Artillery Battalion
Defending units:
4th South Seas Det.
5th South Seas Det.
52nd Naval Guard Unit
Nakagusuko-wan Fortress
31st JAAF AF Bn
33rd Field Const Co
29th Field Construction Battalion
56th Const Co
66th Construction Battalion
11th Special Base Force
39th JNAF AF Unit
48th JAAF AF Bn
and
Ground combat at Naha (95,66)
Allied Deliberate attack
Attacking force 41354 troops, 580 guns, 577 vehicles, Assault Value = 1386
Defending force 27481 troops, 271 guns, 205 vehicles, Assault Value = 491
Allied engineers reduce fortifications to 3
Allied adjusted assault: 2161
Japanese adjusted defense: 549
Allied assault odds: 3 to 1 (fort level 3)
Allied Assault reduces fortifications to 3
Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), disruption(-), preparation(-)
experience(-)
Attacker:
Japanese ground losses:
3088 casualties reported
Squads: 21 destroyed, 210 disabled
Non Combat: 28 destroyed, 85 disabled
Engineers: 2 destroyed, 20 disabled
Guns lost 44 (7 destroyed, 37 disabled)
Vehicles lost 55 (24 destroyed, 31 disabled)
Units destroyed 1
Allied ground losses:
880 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 68 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 15 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 29 disabled
Guns lost 11 (2 destroyed, 9 disabled)
Vehicles lost 49 (4 destroyed, 45 disabled)
Assaulting units:
1st Arm Amphib Battalion
3rd Marine Division
102nd Cmbt Engineer Regiment
32nd Infantry Division
1st Marine Division
193rd Tank Battalion
XIV US Corps
3/532nd Boat&Shore Engineer Battalion
198th Coast AA Regiment
63rd Coast AA Regiment
534th AmphTrac Engineer Battalion
98th Field Artillery Battalion
154th Field Artillery Battalion
Wake (Det.) Defense Battalion
Defending units:
1st Amph.Bde Tank Battalion
33rd Ind.Mixed Brigade
36th Ind.Mixed Brigade
2nd Amphibious Brigade
7th Tank Regiment
18th Naval Guard Unit
51st Naval Guard Unit
25th Field AA Machinecannon Company
14th Port Unit
13th Base Force
48th JNAF AF Unit
51st JNAF AF Unit
24th JAAF AF Bn
21st Medium Field Artillery Battalion
4th JNAF Coy
3rd Fleet
65th Field AA Battalion
25th Air Flotilla
4th Air Army
5th Air Division
21st Special Base Force
55th JAAF AF Bn
Shock attacks are ordered for today at Nago and Naha. The other fight was at Hong Kong.
Ground combat at Hong Kong (77,61)
Allied Deliberate attack
Attacking force 39050 troops, 560 guns, 789 vehicles, Assault Value = 1235
Defending force 11165 troops, 123 guns, 6 vehicles, Assault Value = 220
Allied engineers reduce fortifications to 3
Allied adjusted assault: 1447
Japanese adjusted defense: 393
Allied assault odds: 3 to 1 (fort level 3)
Allied Assault reduces fortifications to 3
Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), disruption(-), preparation(-)
experience(-)
Attacker:
Japanese ground losses:
1015 casualties reported
Squads: 22 destroyed, 79 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 16 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 35 (4 destroyed, 31 disabled)
Allied ground losses:
422 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 31 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 31 disabled
Assaulting units:
18th British Division
14th Army Engineer Battalion
110th Cmbt Engineer Battalion
254th Armoured Brigade
IV Corps Engineer Battalion
34th Cmbt Engineer Regiment
3rd Carabiniers Regiment
11th (East African) Division
31st Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
Defending units:
19th Ind.Mixed Brigade
22nd Ind.Mixed Brigade
Hong Kong Def Force
2nd RF Gun Battalion
Hong Kong Special Base Force
Allied troops at Hong Kong need resupply before continuing the attack.
All 3 bases will fall rather quickly. With most unloading on Okinawa complete, the CVE task forces will pull back to friendly islands to the west, while the CV task forces will move southeast and possibly head east to go hunting for a bit, if they aren't spotted in today's move. If they are spotted, they'll probably return to port for fuel and rearming.
Damaged Yorktown did some minor repairs on Formosa and is now leaving Takao for Manila.
Unloading continued at Nago and Naha, mostly supply. Another LST is hit by coastal guns but not badly damaged. Battleships continue to bombard.
18 P-38s swept Sian, finding 28 Oscars and shooting down 12 of them.
3 big attacks today, and results were similar in all. Pardon the long text of combat, but it's worth noting the units involved at these first battles at these locations.
Ground combat at Nago (95,65)
Allied Deliberate attack
Attacking force 25718 troops, 430 guns, 477 vehicles, Assault Value = 832
Defending force 13566 troops, 114 guns, 36 vehicles, Assault Value = 251
Allied adjusted assault: 1393
Japanese adjusted defense: 430
Allied assault odds: 3 to 1 (fort level 4)
Allied Assault reduces fortifications to 3
Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), disruption(-), preparation(-)
experience(-)
Attacker:
Japanese ground losses:
2050 casualties reported
Squads: 42 destroyed, 64 disabled
Non Combat: 5 destroyed, 27 disabled
Engineers: 2 destroyed, 24 disabled
Guns lost 24 (9 destroyed, 15 disabled)
Vehicles lost 12 (5 destroyed, 7 disabled)
Allied ground losses:
396 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 36 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 9 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Assaulting units:
7th Infantry Division
708th Amphib Tank Battalion
41st Infantry Division
754th Tank Battalion
XI US Corps
97th Field Artillery Battalion
Defending units:
4th South Seas Det.
5th South Seas Det.
52nd Naval Guard Unit
Nakagusuko-wan Fortress
31st JAAF AF Bn
33rd Field Const Co
29th Field Construction Battalion
56th Const Co
66th Construction Battalion
11th Special Base Force
39th JNAF AF Unit
48th JAAF AF Bn
and
Ground combat at Naha (95,66)
Allied Deliberate attack
Attacking force 41354 troops, 580 guns, 577 vehicles, Assault Value = 1386
Defending force 27481 troops, 271 guns, 205 vehicles, Assault Value = 491
Allied engineers reduce fortifications to 3
Allied adjusted assault: 2161
Japanese adjusted defense: 549
Allied assault odds: 3 to 1 (fort level 3)
Allied Assault reduces fortifications to 3
Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), disruption(-), preparation(-)
experience(-)
Attacker:
Japanese ground losses:
3088 casualties reported
Squads: 21 destroyed, 210 disabled
Non Combat: 28 destroyed, 85 disabled
Engineers: 2 destroyed, 20 disabled
Guns lost 44 (7 destroyed, 37 disabled)
Vehicles lost 55 (24 destroyed, 31 disabled)
Units destroyed 1
Allied ground losses:
880 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 68 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 15 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 29 disabled
Guns lost 11 (2 destroyed, 9 disabled)
Vehicles lost 49 (4 destroyed, 45 disabled)
Assaulting units:
1st Arm Amphib Battalion
3rd Marine Division
102nd Cmbt Engineer Regiment
32nd Infantry Division
1st Marine Division
193rd Tank Battalion
XIV US Corps
3/532nd Boat&Shore Engineer Battalion
198th Coast AA Regiment
63rd Coast AA Regiment
534th AmphTrac Engineer Battalion
98th Field Artillery Battalion
154th Field Artillery Battalion
Wake (Det.) Defense Battalion
Defending units:
1st Amph.Bde Tank Battalion
33rd Ind.Mixed Brigade
36th Ind.Mixed Brigade
2nd Amphibious Brigade
7th Tank Regiment
18th Naval Guard Unit
51st Naval Guard Unit
25th Field AA Machinecannon Company
14th Port Unit
13th Base Force
48th JNAF AF Unit
51st JNAF AF Unit
24th JAAF AF Bn
21st Medium Field Artillery Battalion
4th JNAF Coy
3rd Fleet
65th Field AA Battalion
25th Air Flotilla
4th Air Army
5th Air Division
21st Special Base Force
55th JAAF AF Bn
Shock attacks are ordered for today at Nago and Naha. The other fight was at Hong Kong.
Ground combat at Hong Kong (77,61)
Allied Deliberate attack
Attacking force 39050 troops, 560 guns, 789 vehicles, Assault Value = 1235
Defending force 11165 troops, 123 guns, 6 vehicles, Assault Value = 220
Allied engineers reduce fortifications to 3
Allied adjusted assault: 1447
Japanese adjusted defense: 393
Allied assault odds: 3 to 1 (fort level 3)
Allied Assault reduces fortifications to 3
Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), disruption(-), preparation(-)
experience(-)
Attacker:
Japanese ground losses:
1015 casualties reported
Squads: 22 destroyed, 79 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 16 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 35 (4 destroyed, 31 disabled)
Allied ground losses:
422 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 31 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 31 disabled
Assaulting units:
18th British Division
14th Army Engineer Battalion
110th Cmbt Engineer Battalion
254th Armoured Brigade
IV Corps Engineer Battalion
34th Cmbt Engineer Regiment
3rd Carabiniers Regiment
11th (East African) Division
31st Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
Defending units:
19th Ind.Mixed Brigade
22nd Ind.Mixed Brigade
Hong Kong Def Force
2nd RF Gun Battalion
Hong Kong Special Base Force
Allied troops at Hong Kong need resupply before continuing the attack.
All 3 bases will fall rather quickly. With most unloading on Okinawa complete, the CVE task forces will pull back to friendly islands to the west, while the CV task forces will move southeast and possibly head east to go hunting for a bit, if they aren't spotted in today's move. If they are spotted, they'll probably return to port for fuel and rearming.
Damaged Yorktown did some minor repairs on Formosa and is now leaving Takao for Manila.
RE: Did You Know I Used to Drive a Rollercoaster?: Apbarog(A) vs OPilot(J)
The steamroller continues[&o]
RE: Did You Know I Used to Drive a Rollercoaster?: Apbarog(A) vs OPilot(J)
Is Manila's SY large enough to accommodate Yorktown? Or maybe you have an ARD large enough there?
I think HK comes with a size 50 SY.
I think HK comes with a size 50 SY.
No matter how bad a situation is, you can always make it worse. - Chris Hadfield : An Astronaut's Guide To Life On Earth
RE: Did You Know I Used to Drive a Rollercoaster?: Apbarog(A) vs OPilot(J)
Manila is a size 20 shipyard, and Yorktown (the original Yorktown) has a tonnage just below 20k, so it will fit. Manila isn't ideal for such a big repair though. I have many subs cycling in and out, and after each big invasion, all of my invasion shipping passes through Manila for fuel and repairs. So it gets crowded.
Hong Kong is a size 50 shipyard. I think it too close to enemy bases to repair a carrier. Hanoi isn't that far away. Yorktown would be too tempting.
The way the war is going, Yorktown's part in the war is probably over regardless. I expect to invade the southern island of Japan in about a month. The wait is for preparation values, and getting the troops out of China and back to Luzon for upgrades and rest.
Hong Kong is a size 50 shipyard. I think it too close to enemy bases to repair a carrier. Hanoi isn't that far away. Yorktown would be too tempting.
The way the war is going, Yorktown's part in the war is probably over regardless. I expect to invade the southern island of Japan in about a month. The wait is for preparation values, and getting the troops out of China and back to Luzon for upgrades and rest.
RE: Did You Know I Used to Drive a Rollercoaster?: Apbarog(A) vs OPilot(J)
5 Mar 44
P-38s had a field day shooting down Oscars over Sian yesterday. They swept again today, but the dreaded Franks were now there. 9 P-38s were lost for no loss of the enemy. Two of my top pilots were lost. CPT R.H. Neale had 15 kills, and MAJ J. Farell had 12 kills. The P-38 squadron is the 347th Fighter Group/339th Fighter Squadron. Two other aces are MIA. This unit is led by Pappy Boyington.
On the second day of combat on Okinawa, the island bases are captured.
Ground combat at Nago (95,65)
Allied Shock attack
Attacking force 25427 troops, 430 guns, 477 vehicles, Assault Value = 795
Defending force 11998 troops, 107 guns, 33 vehicles, Assault Value = 161
Allied adjusted assault: 758
Japanese adjusted defense: 85
Allied assault odds: 8 to 1 (fort level 3)
Allied forces CAPTURE Nago !!!
Japanese aircraft
no flights
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-51 Sonia: 5 destroyed
D3A2 Val: 2 destroyed
Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), disruption(-), preparation(-)
experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+)
Japanese ground losses:
2239 casualties reported
Squads: 36 destroyed, 49 disabled
Non Combat: 18 destroyed, 11 disabled
Engineers: 62 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 37 (32 destroyed, 5 disabled)
Vehicles lost 22 (22 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Allied ground losses:
891 casualties reported
Squads: 3 destroyed, 88 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 15 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 5 disabled
Vehicles lost 34 (2 destroyed, 32 disabled)
and
Ground combat at Naha (95,66)
Allied Shock attack
Attacking force 41629 troops, 581 guns, 573 vehicles, Assault Value = 1293
Defending force 24266 troops, 258 guns, 182 vehicles, Assault Value = 260
Allied adjusted assault: 2468
Japanese adjusted defense: 257
Allied assault odds: 9 to 1 (fort level 3)
Allied forces CAPTURE Naha !!!
Japanese aircraft
no flights
Japanese aircraft losses
E13A1 Jake: 1 destroyed
N1K1-J George: 1 destroyed
Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), disruption(-), experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+)
Japanese ground losses:
4789 casualties reported
Squads: 121 destroyed, 32 disabled
Non Combat: 117 destroyed, 83 disabled
Engineers: 83 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 97 (59 destroyed, 38 disabled)
Vehicles lost 139 (138 destroyed, 1 disabled)
Allied ground losses:
594 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 47 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 12 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 25 disabled
Vehicles lost 25 (4 destroyed, 21 disabled)
P-38s had a field day shooting down Oscars over Sian yesterday. They swept again today, but the dreaded Franks were now there. 9 P-38s were lost for no loss of the enemy. Two of my top pilots were lost. CPT R.H. Neale had 15 kills, and MAJ J. Farell had 12 kills. The P-38 squadron is the 347th Fighter Group/339th Fighter Squadron. Two other aces are MIA. This unit is led by Pappy Boyington.
On the second day of combat on Okinawa, the island bases are captured.
Ground combat at Nago (95,65)
Allied Shock attack
Attacking force 25427 troops, 430 guns, 477 vehicles, Assault Value = 795
Defending force 11998 troops, 107 guns, 33 vehicles, Assault Value = 161
Allied adjusted assault: 758
Japanese adjusted defense: 85
Allied assault odds: 8 to 1 (fort level 3)
Allied forces CAPTURE Nago !!!
Japanese aircraft
no flights
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-51 Sonia: 5 destroyed
D3A2 Val: 2 destroyed
Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), disruption(-), preparation(-)
experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+)
Japanese ground losses:
2239 casualties reported
Squads: 36 destroyed, 49 disabled
Non Combat: 18 destroyed, 11 disabled
Engineers: 62 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 37 (32 destroyed, 5 disabled)
Vehicles lost 22 (22 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Allied ground losses:
891 casualties reported
Squads: 3 destroyed, 88 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 15 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 5 disabled
Vehicles lost 34 (2 destroyed, 32 disabled)
and
Ground combat at Naha (95,66)
Allied Shock attack
Attacking force 41629 troops, 581 guns, 573 vehicles, Assault Value = 1293
Defending force 24266 troops, 258 guns, 182 vehicles, Assault Value = 260
Allied adjusted assault: 2468
Japanese adjusted defense: 257
Allied assault odds: 9 to 1 (fort level 3)
Allied forces CAPTURE Naha !!!
Japanese aircraft
no flights
Japanese aircraft losses
E13A1 Jake: 1 destroyed
N1K1-J George: 1 destroyed
Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), disruption(-), experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+)
Japanese ground losses:
4789 casualties reported
Squads: 121 destroyed, 32 disabled
Non Combat: 117 destroyed, 83 disabled
Engineers: 83 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 97 (59 destroyed, 38 disabled)
Vehicles lost 139 (138 destroyed, 1 disabled)
Allied ground losses:
594 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 47 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 12 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 25 disabled
Vehicles lost 25 (4 destroyed, 21 disabled)
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RE: Did You Know I Used to Drive a Rollercoaster?: Apbarog(A) vs OPilot(J)
Here's some background info on the real life of the two pilots lost in my war over Sian.
CPT R.H. Neale
MAJ J. Farrell
CPT R.H. Neale
MAJ J. Farrell
RE: Did You Know I Used to Drive a Rollercoaster?: Apbarog(A) vs OPilot(J)
6 Mar 44
US destroyers sank ACM Shawa Maru #10 at Nago.
Submarine Barbel had quite a day. Barbel was transiting from Pearl Harbor to Manila. It's a new sub and hasn't been on a combat patrol yet. But on the way, north of Pagan, it spotted a transport task force with an LSD, a CL and multiple DDs. One torpedo hit destroyer Arare. Later in the day, Barbel was reported to hit destroyer Ushio with a torpedo, but I'm fairly sure it was the same destroyer hit in the first attack. The destroyer appeared to be alone, with the sub escaping detection after the attack. Either way, it was a great day for a new sub crew not even assigned to a combat patrol yet.
The big news was at Hong Kong.
Ground combat at Hong Kong (77,61)
Allied Shock attack
Attacking force 38815 troops, 560 guns, 789 vehicles, Assault Value = 1277
Defending force 9717 troops, 110 guns, 1 vehicles, Assault Value = 162
Allied adjusted assault: 1352
Japanese adjusted defense: 253
Allied assault odds: 5 to 1 (fort level 3)
Allied forces CAPTURE Hong Kong !!!
Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), disruption(-), preparation(-)
Attacker: shock(+)
Japanese ground losses:
1583 casualties reported
Squads: 33 destroyed, 76 disabled
Non Combat: 5 destroyed, 23 disabled
Engineers: 13 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 43 (34 destroyed, 9 disabled)
Vehicles lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units destroyed 1
Allied ground losses:
468 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 22 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 5 destroyed, 35 disabled
Guns lost 12 (1 destroyed, 11 disabled)
Vehicles lost 25 (3 destroyed, 22 disabled)
Assaulting units:
254th Armoured Brigade
18th Cmbt Engineer Regiment
3rd Carabiniers Regiment
IV Corps Engineer Battalion
110th Cmbt Engineer Battalion
34th Cmbt Engineer Regiment
14th Army Engineer Battalion
18th British Division
11th (East African) Division
125th RAF Base Force
123rd RAF Base Force
243 RAF Base Force
31st Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
3rd TAF Base Force
Defending units:
19th Ind.Mixed Brigade
22nd Ind.Mixed Brigade
Hong Kong Def Force
2nd RF Gun Battalion
Hong Kong Special Base Force
It's looking like a 3 to 1 auto-victory will be achieved when bases are captured on the southern island of Japan, barring a botched invasion or lots of shipping sunk. If those bases are captured and the auto-victory occurs, OPilot may surrender. I already get the feeling from talking to him that things are worse for the Japanese than I realize. My guess is that cutting off so much oil in 1943 has really hurt the Japanese economy. My experience as the Japanese, in such a situation, is that there isn't enough supply or fuel in Japan, and that affects just about everything. I look forward to a detailed discussion with him after the war ends.
US destroyers sank ACM Shawa Maru #10 at Nago.
Submarine Barbel had quite a day. Barbel was transiting from Pearl Harbor to Manila. It's a new sub and hasn't been on a combat patrol yet. But on the way, north of Pagan, it spotted a transport task force with an LSD, a CL and multiple DDs. One torpedo hit destroyer Arare. Later in the day, Barbel was reported to hit destroyer Ushio with a torpedo, but I'm fairly sure it was the same destroyer hit in the first attack. The destroyer appeared to be alone, with the sub escaping detection after the attack. Either way, it was a great day for a new sub crew not even assigned to a combat patrol yet.
The big news was at Hong Kong.
Ground combat at Hong Kong (77,61)
Allied Shock attack
Attacking force 38815 troops, 560 guns, 789 vehicles, Assault Value = 1277
Defending force 9717 troops, 110 guns, 1 vehicles, Assault Value = 162
Allied adjusted assault: 1352
Japanese adjusted defense: 253
Allied assault odds: 5 to 1 (fort level 3)
Allied forces CAPTURE Hong Kong !!!
Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), disruption(-), preparation(-)
Attacker: shock(+)
Japanese ground losses:
1583 casualties reported
Squads: 33 destroyed, 76 disabled
Non Combat: 5 destroyed, 23 disabled
Engineers: 13 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 43 (34 destroyed, 9 disabled)
Vehicles lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units destroyed 1
Allied ground losses:
468 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 22 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 5 destroyed, 35 disabled
Guns lost 12 (1 destroyed, 11 disabled)
Vehicles lost 25 (3 destroyed, 22 disabled)
Assaulting units:
254th Armoured Brigade
18th Cmbt Engineer Regiment
3rd Carabiniers Regiment
IV Corps Engineer Battalion
110th Cmbt Engineer Battalion
34th Cmbt Engineer Regiment
14th Army Engineer Battalion
18th British Division
11th (East African) Division
125th RAF Base Force
123rd RAF Base Force
243 RAF Base Force
31st Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
3rd TAF Base Force
Defending units:
19th Ind.Mixed Brigade
22nd Ind.Mixed Brigade
Hong Kong Def Force
2nd RF Gun Battalion
Hong Kong Special Base Force
It's looking like a 3 to 1 auto-victory will be achieved when bases are captured on the southern island of Japan, barring a botched invasion or lots of shipping sunk. If those bases are captured and the auto-victory occurs, OPilot may surrender. I already get the feeling from talking to him that things are worse for the Japanese than I realize. My guess is that cutting off so much oil in 1943 has really hurt the Japanese economy. My experience as the Japanese, in such a situation, is that there isn't enough supply or fuel in Japan, and that affects just about everything. I look forward to a detailed discussion with him after the war ends.
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RE: Did You Know I Used to Drive a Rollercoaster?: Apbarog(A) vs OPilot(J)
7 Mar 44
Slow US battleships continue to bombard troops on Okinawa. Now that the bases are under US control, the enemy is in the field and harder to hit.
Canton is bombarded by British and Australian cruisers and destroyers. Moderate damage. Time to make life miserable for the 140,000 enemy troops trapped at Canton.
Cleanup continues at Temuloh in Malaya. The enemy is said to be "surrounded" so the end should be near. Shock attacks continue. The Allied troops are tired but there will be plenty of rest at Singapore after this fight.
Cleanup began at Hong Kong, with 1576 enemy casualties reported. The enemy is reported to be "surrounded" here also.
3 US divisions start to load at Swatow, headed back to Luzon for rest. Manila is almost at its stacking limit, so preparations for Japan will take place at Manila, Batangas and Naga. Batangas is a size 5 port, and Naga is being built up as fast as possible, and will be a 5 for the loading in a month or so.
Slow US battleships continue to bombard troops on Okinawa. Now that the bases are under US control, the enemy is in the field and harder to hit.
Canton is bombarded by British and Australian cruisers and destroyers. Moderate damage. Time to make life miserable for the 140,000 enemy troops trapped at Canton.
Cleanup continues at Temuloh in Malaya. The enemy is said to be "surrounded" so the end should be near. Shock attacks continue. The Allied troops are tired but there will be plenty of rest at Singapore after this fight.
Cleanup began at Hong Kong, with 1576 enemy casualties reported. The enemy is reported to be "surrounded" here also.
3 US divisions start to load at Swatow, headed back to Luzon for rest. Manila is almost at its stacking limit, so preparations for Japan will take place at Manila, Batangas and Naga. Batangas is a size 5 port, and Naga is being built up as fast as possible, and will be a 5 for the loading in a month or so.
RE: Did You Know I Used to Drive a Rollercoaster?: Apbarog(A) vs OPilot(J)
8 Mar 44
Canton was bombarded again by many British and Australian cruisers. Assume that this will occur every day until Canton has no enemy in it.
Reduction of the isolated enemy at Nago continued. The casualty ratio was 1510 enemy to 271 friendly. Enemy squads are being destroyed. Same story at Naha, except that we had a bad day, with the ratio being 1210 enemy to 1000 friendly casualties. The enemy at Temuloh in Malaya continued to be whittled down, but they won't give up. A 98 to 1 attack resulted in 891 casualties. They are still "surrounded" but still fighting. The end has to be near. I said that last week too.
And a similar story at Hong Kong. A 45 to 1 attack with a ratio of 887 enemy to 59 friendly casualties.
I feel like the game is now in the "end game" stage. The only planned targets are finishing off Canton in China, and taking the southern island of Japan, and the small islands to its south and west. It'll take about a month for that invasion to be kicked off.
Canton was bombarded again by many British and Australian cruisers. Assume that this will occur every day until Canton has no enemy in it.
Reduction of the isolated enemy at Nago continued. The casualty ratio was 1510 enemy to 271 friendly. Enemy squads are being destroyed. Same story at Naha, except that we had a bad day, with the ratio being 1210 enemy to 1000 friendly casualties. The enemy at Temuloh in Malaya continued to be whittled down, but they won't give up. A 98 to 1 attack resulted in 891 casualties. They are still "surrounded" but still fighting. The end has to be near. I said that last week too.
And a similar story at Hong Kong. A 45 to 1 attack with a ratio of 887 enemy to 59 friendly casualties.
I feel like the game is now in the "end game" stage. The only planned targets are finishing off Canton in China, and taking the southern island of Japan, and the small islands to its south and west. It'll take about a month for that invasion to be kicked off.
RE: Did You Know I Used to Drive a Rollercoaster?: Apbarog(A) vs OPilot(J)
The first B-29 units are on the map. Each arrived with just 7 planes. One unit is approaching Bombay from Aden. The other two units are loading on ships at Aden. Naha, on Okinawa, can build to a size 7 airfield, so not ideal for B-29s. But from there, they'll be able to range over most if not all of Japan. It's 9 hexes to Nagasaki from Okinawa, so the B-25s can join in eventually. Of course, once the southern Japanese island is taken, it's pretty much over for the war.