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Can someone suggest a really good Russian Campaign (41-45) type of game. Nothing smaller than divisional level units. Thanks
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I'm suggesting Decisive Campaigns Barbarossa.

If you are brave enough War in the East is hard to top. But it goes down to battalion and regimental.

Unity of Command is a solid product and just happens to be uncomplicated.

The only problem with a lot of great operational titles, is they wander above and below divisional.

Now if you pick Strategic Command, you get corps and up. And there are scenarios that focus on the Russian theatre.
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War in the East is, IMHO, the best choice right now. It offers a lot of scenarios and campaigns (from small operation to the whole war), it is not really that hard to learn, and it is hard to learn how to play well - always a plus in my book. You also can find a lot of online opponents in the dedicated forum.

Decisive Campaigns Barbarossa is simpler, but introduces an interesting role-playing aspect: you are the middleman, stuck between a demanding boss and prima-donna generals. Quite realistic IMHO. It only covers Barbarossa, toh.

The Operational Art of War IV has tons of scenarios set in the East Front, from mind-numbingly detailed campaigns to simpler operations. You also get all other theatres and scenarios ranging from horse & musket to modern day. WitE, however, is more "dedicated" and (still IMHO) even a bit simpler than TOAW.

Before committing your hard-earned money you could wait for WitE 2 - which will use the more refined and detailed War in the West engine. However, I play WitE since when it was published, and it is a perfectly fine game.
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Okay thanks guys for all of that information. WITE 2 sounds like a good one when it comes out. How much longer?
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How much longer?

Sometime in 2021 was the last I heard. Rather a wide window.
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Okay thanks guys for all of that information. WITE 2 sounds like a good one when it comes out. How much longer?
If you want something now, TOAW 4 is an excellent choice. There are heaps of excellent scenarios from WW2 and lots of other wars.
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The Operational Art of War 4 (TOAW 4) has many scenario's covering the East Front.

TOAW 4 has a bonus because it is about 100 or so scenario's covering multiple theaters. East Front is covered very well.

Add another 0 to that number and you’d be a lot closer. Literally 1000 at least (also includes TOAW III Scenarios).
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Now if you pick Strategic Command, you get corps and up. And there are scenarios that focus on the Russian theatre.


Yeah I have been waiting to see if Strategic Command 3 would come out with a new version of Assault On Communism. It was a really great Eastern Front game. So far nothing. )-:
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Decisive Campaigns Barbarossa every time!

Though if it has to cover all the war GGWITE. Though 2 is in the works
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If you are a genuine fan of pushing cardboard though, and I think you have to be for this one, Schwerpunct wins.

It is not concerned with newbs. It's 100% hard core. WitE2 will be a hoot I'm sure. But I doubt you will be getting that before end of 2021.
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Can someone suggest a really good Russian Campaign (41-45) type of game. Nothing smaller than divisional level units. Thanks

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Which is a more complicated game....TOAW or WITE ?
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Which is a more complicated game....TOAW or WITE ?

Probably War in the East. A lot more administration and there is production involved as well.
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How good is WITE? I am only familiar with one game from Marix, and not really that good with that one either.
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How good is WITE? I am only familiar with one game from Marix, and not really that good with that one either.

WitE is currently the gold standard for Front based wargames (is I think a fair claim).
It's not perfect, but nothing is. I can find flaws in ASL, and A3R if asked. Steel Panthers Long Campaigns are as broke as it gets. And Tiller titles are only so good.

WitE is a type of game (like ASL or War in the Pacific), where if you like it, you might not really want to play anything else. Why spend your precious time on second best type of thinking eh.
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