Canadians

[BBfanboy]

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grok - Unix geek?

From the TV series "Mork and Mindy". Mork from Ork used the word grok to indicate he understood an new word or concept, not just the definition but how it fit into the language and culture.

[fcooke]

So Mork was the Unix geek....interesting. Some writer was looking for extra points there. Means the same thing in the Unix dev community.

[RangerJoe]

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And sadly the destruction on Monte Cassino was a cultural tragedy. I had not heard about the rapefest before so thanks for sharing - I learned something today.

That was my reaction when I learned that from the documentary. In our focus on the military aspects of campaigns we tend not to get any info on civilian experiences, which are really needed for perspective. What struck me about the rape tragedy was that it was so avoidable if discipline was truly enforced. I grok that the Moroccans were raised with a different cultural value on women, and a norm that the conqueror can do what he wants with the conquered, but integration into western armies should have dealt with that idea.

Yes, a different culture that I won't get into here so the thread does not get locked.

[DesertWolf101]

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And sadly the destruction on Monte Cassino was a cultural tragedy. I had not heard about the rapefest before so thanks for sharing - I learned something today.

That was my reaction when I learned that from the documentary. In our focus on the military aspects of campaigns we tend not to get any info on civilian experiences, which are really needed for perspective. What struck me about the rape tragedy was that it was so avoidable if discipline was truly enforced. I grok that the Moroccans were raised with a different cultural value on women, and a norm that the conqueror can do what he wants with the conquered, but integration into western armies should have dealt with that idea.

Yes, a different culture that I won't get into here so the thread does not get locked.

It has nothing to do with culture and everything to do with discipline and institutional norms. It is no more acceptable to rape in Maghrebian culture than it is in European or any other culture. They did it because the FEC culture allowed the circumstances behind it to exist. Remember that mass rape was practices by Germans, Russians, and the Japanese alike. There is nothing particularly rapey about any of those cultures either.

[DesertWolf101]

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That was my reaction when I learned that from the documentary. In our focus on the military aspects of campaigns we tend not to get any info on civilian experiences, which are really needed for perspective. What struck me about the rape tragedy was that it was so avoidable if discipline was truly enforced. I grok that the Moroccans were raised with a different cultural value on women, and a norm that the conqueror can do what he wants with the conquered, but integration into western armies should have dealt with that idea.

Yes, a different culture that I won't get into here so the thread does not get locked.

It has nothing to do with culture and everything to do with discipline and institutional norms. It is no more acceptable to rape in Maghrebian culture than it is in European or any other culture. They did it because the FEC allowed the circumstances behind it to exist. Remember that mass rape was practices by Germans, Russians, and the Japanese alike. There is nothing particularly rapey about any of those cultures either.

[RangerJoe]

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That was my reaction when I learned that from the documentary. In our focus on the military aspects of campaigns we tend not to get any info on civilian experiences, which are really needed for perspective. What struck me about the rape tragedy was that it was so avoidable if discipline was truly enforced. I grok that the Moroccans were raised with a different cultural value on women, and a norm that the conqueror can do what he wants with the conquered, but integration into western armies should have dealt with that idea.

Yes, a different culture that I won't get into here so the thread does not get locked.

It has nothing to do with culture and everything to do with discipline and institutional norms. It is no more acceptable to rape in Maghrebian culture than it is in European or any other culture. They did it because the FEC culture allowed the circumstances behind it to exist. Remember that mass rape was practices by Germans, Russians, and the Japanese alike. There is nothing particularly rapey about any of those cultures either.

Not true but I won't get into that here.

[BBfanboy]

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So Mork was the Unix geek....interesting. Some writer was looking for extra points there. Means the same thing in the Unix dev community.

I think Mork and Mindy was pre-Unix. I suspect the sci-fi fans in the Unix community adopted it.

[LGKMAS]

Us oldies here will remember Heinlein's Stranger in a strange land. The term Grok came from there. Damned if I can remember the actual meaning but it was about that time that people, well scifi people started 'groking' something.

[RangerJoe]

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So Mork was the Unix geek....interesting. Some writer was looking for extra points there. Means the same thing in the Unix dev community.

I think Mork and Mindy was pre-Unix. I suspect the sci-fi fans in the Unix community adopted it.

Actually, UNIX was developed in the 1970s.

[RangerJoe]

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Us oldies here will remember Heinlein's Stranger in a strange land. The term Grok came from there. Damned if I can remember the actual meaning but it was about that time that people, well scifi people started 'groking' something.

Ho about this:

"to understand intuitively or by empathy, to establish rapport with" and "to empathize or communicate sympathetically (with); also, to experience enjoyment"

[CaptBeefheart]

On the topic, I find Canadians to be useful later in the war against the AI. I usually spring three brigades by the end. When you start rolling up cities in the Home Islands you need to do a lot of garrisoning, and having Canadians around helps with that. You can keep one healthy brigade at the front and rotate it back when it suffers big disablements.

EDIT: I should add springing Canucks is a pretty low priority use of PPs. I usually wouldn't have a full complement bought out until early 1945.

Cheers,
CB