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Divers find Nazis' Enigma code machine in Baltic Sea

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https://phys.org/news/2020-12-divers-na ... chine.html

German divers who recently fished an Enigma encryption machine out of the Baltic Sea, used by the Nazis to send coded messages during World War II, handed their rare find over to a museum for restoration on Friday.

The legendary code machine was discovered last month during a search for abandoned fishing nets in the Bay of Gelting in northeast Germany, by divers on assignment for environmental group WWF.

"A colleague swam up and said: there's a net there with an old typewriter in it," Florian Huber, the lead diver, told the DPA news agency.

The team quickly realised they had stumbled across a historic artefact and alerted the authorities.

Ulf Ickerodt, head of the state archaeological office in Germany's Schleswig-Holstein region, said the machine would be restored by experts at the state's archaeology museum.

The delicate process, including a thorough desalination process after seven decades in the Baltic seabed, "will take about a year", he said.

After that, the Enigma will go on display at the museum.

Naval historian Jann Witt from the German Naval Association told DPA that he believes the machine, which has three rotors, was thrown overboard from a German warship in the final days of the war.

It is less likely that it came from a scuttled submarine, he said, because Adolf Hitler's U-boats used the more complex four-rotor Enigma machines.

A naval historian said he believes the machine was thrown overboard from a German warship in the final days of WWII
The Allied forces worked tirelessly to decrypt the codes produced by the Enigma machine, which were changed every 24 hours.

British mathematician Alan Turing, seen as the father of modern computing, spearheaded a team at Britain's Bletchley Park that cracked the code in 1941.

The breakthrough helped the Allies decipher crucial radio messages about German military movements. Historians believe it shortened the war by about two years.

The story was turned into a 2014 movie called "The Imitation Game", starring Oscar-nominated British actor Benedict Cumberbatch as Turing.

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The last message was still in the machine. When decoded and translated, it reads, "If Steiner attacks everything will be alright".
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The last message was still in the machine. When decoded and translated, it reads, "If Steiner attacks everything will be alright".
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Not true.

The accurate decoding and translation of the message was:

Gott im Himmel, U-571's bete noire hass zailed into ze Baltic See. Srow ze enigma machinen overbort jetzt!! Ich hate Bon Jovi!!
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The last message was still in the machine. When decoded and translated, it reads, "If Steiner attacks everything will be alright".
warspite1

Not true.

The accurate decoding and translation of the message was:

Gott im Himmel, U-571 hass zailed into ze Baltic See. Srow ze enigma machinen overbort jetzt!!
No, that was the next-to-last message. It says "Rafe and Danny are boarding. Destroying all confidential papers".
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Fegelein! Fegelein! Fegelein! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-5EUsGTQqQ
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Thank you, Zorch, for sharing. [&o] [:)]
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Thank you, Zorch, for sharing. [&o] [:)]
Thank you for thanking me.
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Thank you, Zorch, for sharing. [&o] [:)]
Thank you for thanking me.
Thank you for thanking me for thanking you. [:D]
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Thank you, Zorch, for sharing. [&o] [:)]
Thank you for thanking me.
Thank you for thanking me for thanking you. [:D]
You're welcome. [8D]
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Thank you for thanking me.
Thank you for thanking me for thanking you. [:D]
You're welcome. [8D]
Thank you. [:)]
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I would have thought the last message might be...

"I c@n't find the @ key. Did Fr@nz ste@l it?"
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There are 26 letters in the alphabet and 10 numbers. The odds of guessing the first character is 1/36.

If there is a 4th rotor the odds are still 1/36.
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If I remember correctly, the Poles got one to copy and gave their information to the British. This was before the war started in Europe.
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There are 26 letters in the alphabet and 10 numbers. The odds of guessing the first character is 1/36.

If there is a 4th rotor the odds are still 1/36.
The machine didn't have numbers. So the odds for the first character would be 1/26.
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But did they find a monolith?
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But did they find a monolith?
They did, but it was black (not silver), and emitted a strange humming noise. So they left it at the bottom of the sea.
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There are 26 letters in the alphabet and 10 numbers. The odds of guessing the first character is 1/36.

If there is a 4th rotor the odds are still 1/36.
It's radically more complicated than that. From wiki...

"Combining three rotors from a set of five, each of the 3 rotor settings with 26 positions, and the plugboard with ten pairs of letters connected, the military Enigma has 158,962,555,217,826,360,000 different settings (nearly 159 quintillion or about 67 bits).

Note that (5x4x3) x (26^3) x [26! / (6! x 10! x 2^10)] = 158,962,555,217,826,360,000"
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