Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues

[OsirisRaptor]

I was directed to this board for platforms post 1979.

CORMORANT SUBMARINE LAUNCHED UCAV
https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/thread ... mpuav.228/

Images from Popular Science:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_Martin_Cormorant
launch depth of 150 ft (46 m)

CORMORANT UCAV details [published forever ago], example located here
https://en.ruvsa.com/catalog/cormorant/

USA Lockheed Martin UAV
Region: USA and Canada Country: USA Category: UAV Company: Lockheed Martin
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Use(s): reconnaissance and surveillance Manufacturer: Lockheed Martin Powerplant: 3,000lb JP-5 Dimensions: length: 19ft, wingspan: 16ft Weight: MTOW: 9,000lb, max payload: 1,000lb Performance: endurance: 3hr, ceiling: 35,000ft, mission radius: 400-500nm Launch: RATO Recovery: splash down Status: in development

PM If you want more details I can find more sources, just need to know what to look for.

[BDukes]

<type>Add</type>
<summary>Add A 5335 Vulcano. Italy 2021. New italian AOR. </summary>
<detail>ITS Vulcano now in service. See datas below for detail.</detail>
<evidence>
https://twitter.com/MikiAV8BHarrier/sta ... 2397392897
https://www.navyrecognition.com/index.p ... -ship.html
https://www.navyrecognition.com/index.p ... -2019.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vulcano-c ... pport_ship
https://www.naval-technology.com/projec ... -ship-lss/
</evidence>

[BDukes]

<type>Add</type>
<summary>Add HQ-501 (ex US LST 938) to Vietnam 1975</summary>
<detail> Add HQ-501 (ex US LST 938) IOC is takeover in 75. Still in use</detail>
<evidence>
https://twitter.com/AnnQuann/status/1217846675508584448
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_s ... ry_(Large)
</evidence>

[BDukes]

<type>Add</type>
<summary>Add HQ-511 [Polnochny B] to Vietnam 1979 x3</summary>
<detail> Add Vietnamee Polnochny B (HQ-511->513) x3 According to Janes Fighting Ship 1989 first received in 1979. Same as other Poly B in DB.</detail>
<evidence>
https://twitter.com/AnnQuann/status/1308408135154044931
https://defense-studies.blogspot.com/20 ... rains.html
</evidence>

[BDukes]

<type>Add</type>
<summary>Add HQ-521 LST to Vietnam x2 IOC 2009</summary>
<detail> Vietnam Build 2 Hùng V&#432;&#417;ng Class (HQ-521->522) LST to Vietnam x2 IOC 2009 </detail>
<evidence>
http://www.navypedia.org/ships/vietnam/vie_ls_hq521.htm
https://defense-studies.blogspot.com/20 ... ships.html
https://twitter.com/AnnQuann/status/1194669825659822080
</evidence>

[BDukes]

<type>Update</type>
<summary>Remove GBU-38 integration loaout #27829 on AV-8B #836 as 2002 too early to have</summary>
<detail>Spain didn't receive GBU-38 until 2018 time period. Need updated AV-8B with around that date.</detail>
<evidence>
https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/news_139432.htm
fb.asp?m=4789414
</evidence>

[BDukes]

<type>Update</type>
<summary>Update Y-8Q Cub #3301 with new Depth Charge Loadout.</summary>
<detail>Y-8Q shown deploying depth charge. Expert think copy of Russian S3V Zagon weapon #1015.</detail>
<evidence>
https://www.janes.com/amp/planaf-conduc ... Fp1cVMwPQ2
fb.asp?m=4814326
https://twitter.com/RupprechtDeino/stat ... 1068181509
</evidence>

[FTBSS]

https://currently.att.yahoo.com/finance ... 00181.html can we get some helo loadouts with this as hypothetical unit. Would add a new kind of cat and mouse game in fleet defense.

[BDukes]

<type>Update</type>
<summary>Kedge making U-turns from SU-24M2. Check arcs and designators</summary>
<detail>Any Kedge fired from SU-24M2 is making you turn. Check designators and arcs on weapon and aircraft. See link below for detail and file. Off hand it look like laser spot tracker and Russian Designator on board. Need to link Russian Designator to bomb designator type and maybe lose the generic laser spot tracker.?</detail>
<evidence>
https://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.a ... 2365533%3B
</evidence>

[Parel803]

<type>ADD</type>
<summary>ECM C-GEM, Rafael build, Israel</summary>
<detail>
Shipborne Off-Board Active Decoy. Found only 1 reference it's been installed to the Saar6 and I don't have the prem account on that site.
Could not find in DB under weapons. Last excel update I have is from DB 486. If it's in the DB, I apologize and request for ID nr.
RF: Wideband rx 6-40 GHz, SolidStateTx, 360degrees, launchers 110mm to 150 mm, linked to ships ESM/CMS.
</detail>
<evidence>
https://www.shephardmedia.com/news/nava ... d-sews-dv/
https://www.navyrecognition.com/index.p ... stems.html
https://www.rafael.co.il/wp-content/upl ... /C-GEM.pdf
https://armadainternational.com/2020/11 ... euronaval/
https://www.rafael.co.il/worlds/naval/naval-ew/
https://www.edrmagazine.eu/%E2%96%BA-ra ... nline-2020
</evidence>
with regards

[EconAnon1]

Hi,

I've found a CEC issue with the French Aquitaine [FREMM ASW] FFG and Forbin [Horizon] DDG. Both ships have CEC Missile Command Datalinks but the Aster missiles lack CEC properties.

Here's an article about a French Navy Horizon DDG using an Aster 30 to shoot down a target drone using the radar track from a FREMM

It wont let me post a link but the article is from Naval News
"French Navy Demonstrates Its 1st Cooperative Engagement With Frigate & Destroyer"

[BDukes]

<type>Update</type>
<summary>Add out of service date to Canadian ADATS Sams of 2012</summary>
<detail>Canada retire system by 2012. Update entry #309 to reflect</detail>
<evidence>
https://www.rheinmetall.ca/en/rheinmeta ... istory.php
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/anti-a ... -1.5399461
http://www.military-today.com/missiles/adats.htm
</evidence>

[CV60]

<type>Update</type>
<summary>change name of HQ-16A Search Radar</summary>
<detail>Update DB3K Facility_1851 to reflect name IBIS-150 for the HQ-16A radar</detail>
<evidence>
https://defense-update.com/20141114_air ... fense.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HQ-16
https://www.urdupoint.com/en/pakistan/p ... 77130.html
</evidence>

[CV60]

<type>Update</type>
<summary>Update HQ-16B DB3K Weapon_3392.</summary>
<detail>Update engagement envelope of HQ-16B to 50-65,617 ft (15-20,000 m)</detail>
<evidence>
http://www.sast.net/product/196.html
</evidence>

Note: Evidence is manufacturer's claim for the export version of the HQ-16B

[CV60]

[quote]<type>Update</type>
<summary>Update SA-11 Gadfly 9M38M1 DB3K Weapon_1147.</summary>
<detail>Update engagement envelope of 2-19nm (3-35 km) and target altitude 50-72,179 ft (15-22,0000 m) Also, max speed may be 2332 knots (1200 m/s) based on US Army citation below.</detail>
<evidence>
http://www.ausairpower.net/APA-9K37-Buk ... ocId239351
US Army, Worldwide Equipment Guide Volume 2: Airspace and Air Defense Systems (2016) (image attached below)
</evidence>

Note: Max velocity may be 1200 m/s based on Worldwide Equipment Guide Volume 2. Global Security reports Mach 3 (2000 m/s) is max velocity https://www.globalsecurity.org/military ... /sa-11.htm

[morphin]

Hi
The R05 Invincible (1992), #1004, DB3000V487 and R08 Ark Royal has only Gas as Fuel in the DB, but i think the main propulsion system are the 8 Diesel....

Thank's
Andy

[morphin]

Hi
Weapon #1916 (DB3000V487). Should the Target for this Towed Torpedo Decoy not be against Torpedos?
At this time it is against Surface

[Blast33]

[quote]ORIGINAL: CV60

[quote]<type>Update</type>
<summary>Update SA-11 Gadfly 9M38M1 DB3K Weapon_1147.</summary>
<detail>Update engagement envelope of 2-19nm (3-35 km) and target altitude 50-72,179 ft (15-22,0000 m) Also, max speed may be 2332 knots (1200 m/s) based on US Army citation below.</detail>
<evidence>
http://www.ausairpower.net/APA-9K37-Buk ... ocId239351
US Army, Worldwide Equipment Guide Volume 2: Airspace and Air Defense Systems (2016) (image attached below)
</evidence>

Note: Max velocity may be 1200 m/s based on Worldwide Equipment Guide Volume 2. Global Security reports Mach 3 (2000 m/s) is max velocity https://www.globalsecurity.org/military ... /sa-11.htm




[quote]<type>Update</type>
<summary>Update Buk family</summary>
<detail>When we start with the SA-11, the rest of the family is also useful. This poster is handy because of the hit probabilities against projectiles, helicopters and aircraft, reaction times per variant per tgt and the max meters/second speed of the targets. Note the 9M317 missile type as of 1988 in the Buk-M1-2.

Sorry the picture is so large but in this way you can read it without glasses [;)]</detail>
<evidence>
https://s00.yaplakal.com/pics/pics_orig ... 062049.jpg
</evidence>

[BDukes]

<type>Add</type>
<summary>Add Ukrainian RK-360MT Neptune Battalion 2021</summary>
<detail>Ukraine to receive in 2021. First link include good detail on what battalion look like</detail>
<evidence>
https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/20 ... e-systems/
https://defence-blog.com/news/watch-a-s ... siles.html
https://twitter.com/CiroNappi6/status/1 ... 8226398209
http://www.military-today.com/missiles/neptun.htm
</evidence>

[Blast33]

<type>Update</type>
<summary>Update MANPADS effectiveness</summary>
On a forum somebody pointed at an article of &#1040;&#1088;&#1084;&#1077;&#1081;&#1089;&#1082;&#1080;&#1081; &#1089;&#1073;&#1086;&#1088;&#1085;&#1080;&#1082;, a Scientific, practical-and methodological journal of the Russian Defence Ministry Nr.9 of 2013. In here is an analysis of the effectiveness of different Russian SA-16, SA-18 and SA-24s. And in Table-3 even the Verba is present against all kind of targets. I have one in Russian language, and one translated in the .zip attachement. Maybe this can be usefull for CMO.</detail>
<evidence>
https://sc.mil.ru/files/morf/military/a ... 013-09.pdf) From page 36 onwards.
</evidence>