Why are Federalists and Humanists always unwilling to form a victory pact?

[Fritz1776]

Honestly They seem like they'd be at least as willing as the Realpolitikers. If it's for balance reasons then it still should work since 2/3 times Theocrats and Militarists want you to bugger off, vs the Republicans where it's the reverse.

[zgrssd]

This part was just recently changed in 1.05:
-Factions that are open to the Non-aggression, Mutual Defense and Victory Pact in theory are Corporatists, Realpolitikers, Doctrinists and Humanists. (before this was not the case with Victory Pact) *

Note that the * means, it only applies to newly created savegame. A annoying amount of game data is kept in the savegame, meaning old saves have all kinds of old bugs.

[Fritz1776]

Ah, thanks. I wasn't aware that the manual was out of date for that.

[EuchreJack]

I'm just guessing here, but reading the manual on the Federalists, they're still warmongers that want to take over the world, but they're willing to cooperate in a limited fashion. Perhaps they represent the Soviet Union under Stalin and his successors. They weren't going to back down from their ambitions to unite the world under their ideals, but they would engage in trade and did not fight large scale wars of aggression.

The name itself probably comes from the more obscure Federalist party of the early United States. Remember that less than 30 years after gaining independence, they engaged in an attempted land grab or "tried to continue the revolution". Diplomacy was also generally limited in those early days, what with most of the other civilized countries still adhering to that outmodelled form of government known as "Monarchy".

EDIT: It's actually a pun, as the Federalists were against the War of 1812...

[Maerchen]

..or you are just too US-centric in your point of view, as Vic is dutch and most of the european history class education does not include that?


Not meant to harm you, but as The Netherlands are one of the oldest republican democracies, I take an educated guess that the creator isn't referring to US history but to the Republic of the Seven United Netherlands from 1579+...