Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues

[p1t1o]

<type>Update</type>
<ID>HQ-12 missile DB#123</ID>

<detail>
Missile has range of 40nm but an engagement ceiling of a very meager 15000ft.
This seems extremely unlikely and is also at odds with information provided within the description.
Skimming google, sources can be found which confirm the lateral range and put the ceiling at a more sensible 25-27km (80k-90kft):

https://www.ainonline.com/aviation-news ... capability
https://www.deagel.com/Artillery%20Syst ... 12/a002444
http://www.ausairpower.net/APA-PLA-IADS ... ocId502105
https://en.missilery.info/missile/hq-12

</detail>

[Parel803]

<type>Add</type>
<summary>DB3K 487, Piratini Class, P-10, River (Coastal) Patrol, Brazilian Navy</summary>
<detail>
6 units in class
First unit commisioned 1971. In 1993 then were transferred from Coastal to Riverrine
Based on USCG Cape class cutter
JFS2013/2014:
Displ: 107 t Standard, 148 t Full
Dimensions mtr: 29 x 5.8 x 2
Speed kts: 17
Range nm:1700 at 12 kts
Complement: 16
Machinery: 4x Cummings VT-12M diesels, 1100 hp (820 kW), 2 shafts
Guns: 1x Oerlikon 20 mm, 2x 12.7 mm MG
Radar: Racal Decca 1070 I-band, Furuno 3600 I-band
</detail>
<Evidence>
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piratini- ... atrol_boat
https://military.wikia.org/wiki/Piratini_Class
https://military.wikia.org/wiki/Piratin ... atrol_boat
http://www.navsource.org/archives/12/11109.htm
https://militaryleak.com/2019/05/29/bra ... trol-boat/
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File ... _25969.jpg
https://www.brasilemdefesa.com/2016/06/ ... atini.html
https://www.naval.com.br/ngb/P/P085/P085.htm
https://www.defesanet.com.br/toa/notici ... %28PA%29-/
https://www.naval.com.br/ngb/P/P037/P037.htm
</evidence>
with regards GJ

[Parel803]

<type>Add</type>
<summary>DB3K 487, Parnaiba Class, U-17, River Monitor, Brazilian Navy. One of the worlds oldest military ships (2018)</summary>
<detail>
1 unit in class
First unit commisioned 1938
Last evidence I found is from 2018. Not sure if still active for Riverine
JFS2013/2014:
Displ t.: 630 standard, 732 full
Dimensions mtr: 55 x 10.1 x 1.6
Speed kts: 12
Range nm: 1350 at 10 kts
Complement: 74
Machinery: 2 diesels, 2 shafts
Guns:1x US 76 mm, 2x Bofors 40mm/70, 6x Oerlikon 20mm. Not sure if anything had to go for the helodeck
Radar: Racal Decca I-Band, Furuno 3600 I-Band
Helodeck for 1x IH-6B Jet Ranger. Taken from Niteroi
</detail>
<Evidence>
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brazilian ... ADba_(U17)
https://www.reddit.com/r/WarshipPorn/co ... 17_it_was/
https://warisboring.com/one-of-the-worl ... in-brazil/
https://xbradtc2.com/2014/12/27/the-riv ... -parnaiba/
https://www.defensemedianetwork.com/sto ... warfare/4/
</evidence>
with regards GJ

[Parel803]

<type>Add</type>
<summary>DB3K 487, Almirante Gastao Motta, G-23, Tanker / Replenishment Oiler, Brazilian Navy</summary>
<detail>
1 unit in class
First unit commisioned 1991
Brazil build
JFS2013/2014:
Displ t.: 4543 standard, 10486 full
Dimensions mtr: 135 x 19 x 7.5
Speed kts: 20
Range nm at kts: 9000 at 15
Complement:121 + 12 spare
Cargo capacity: 5920 tons diesel, 950 tons JP-5, 200 tons dry
Machinery: Diesel-Electric 2x Wartsila 12V32 diesel generators, 11700 hp(m) (8.57 MW) sustained, 1 motor, 1 shaft, Kamewa cp prop
Guns: 2x 12.7 mm MG
Radar: Furuno FR-1760 I-band, Furuno M-1832 I-band
2 Whalers + 2 RHIB's
Fitted for abeam and stern refuelling
</detail>
<Evidence>
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brazilian ... %A3o_Motta
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_s ... ta2009.jpg
https://military.wikia.org/wiki/Brazili ... %A3o_Motta
https://www.vesselfinder.com/vessels/AL ... 558-MMSI-0
https://www.marinetraffic.com/en/photos ... AO%20MOTTA
https://www.marinha.mil.br/noticias/nav ... leo-no-mar
https://tecnodefesa.com.br/um-substitut ... otta-g-23/
</evidence>
with regards GJ

[Parel803]

<type>Add</type>
<summary>DB3K 487, Marajo Class, G-27, Replenishment tanker, Brazilian Navy</summary>
<detail>
1 unit in class
First unit commisioned 1969
Brazil build
No evidence of decomission found
JFS2013/2014:
Displ t.: 7620 standard, 15352 full
Dimensions mtr: 134.4 x 19.3 x 7.3
Speed kts: 13
Range nm at kts: 9200 at 13
Complement: 80
Cargo Capacity: 7470 tons fuel
Machinery: 1 Sulzer GRD 68 diesel, 8000 hp(m) (5.88 MW), 1 shaft
Radar: Racal Decca TM 1226C I-band, Racal Decca BT 503 I-Band
Fitted for abeam
</detail>
<Evidence>
https://cs.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maraj%C3%B3_(G27)
https://u0v052dm9wl3gxo0y3lx0u44wz-wpen ... B3-G27.jpg
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File ... (G-27).jpg
https://nara.getarchive.net/media/the-b ... ent-be6db6
https://www.brasilemdefesa.com/2016/06/marajo-g-27.html
</evidence>
with regards GJ

[Parel803]

<type>Add</type>
<summary>DB3K 487, Aratu Class, M-15, MineSweeper, Brazilian Navy</summary>
<detail>
5 units in class
First unit commisioned 1970
German build, Schutze class
JFS2013/2014:
Displ t.: 245 standard, 284 full
Dimensions mtr: 47.2 x 7.2 x 2.1
Speed kts: 24
Range nm at kts: 710 at 20
Complement: 32
Machinery: 2 MTU 16V 652 SB80 diesels, 4500 hp(m) (3.3 MW), 2 shafts, 2 Escher-Weiss
Guns: 1 Bofors TY 39 40mm/70, 240 rds/min to 6.5 nm.
Radar: Racal Decca 1070A I-band, Furuno M-1831 I-band
Wooden hull,
</detail>
<Evidence>
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aratu-class_minesweeper
https://military.wikia.org/wiki/Aratu_class
https://www.naval.com.br/ngb/A/A111/A111.htm
https://www.defesaaereanaval.com.br/nav ... rito-santo
https://www.myshiptracking.com/nl/vesse ... 9000-imo-0
</evidence>
with regards GJ

[Sardaukar]

<type>ADD</type>
<summary>F-4K Phantom FG.1 RN carrier capable</summary>
<detail>For Ark Royal 1982 what-if (hypothetical)
</detail>
<evidence>
Already in CWDB
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McDonnell ... antom_FG.1
</evidence>

[anlgzl]

Hi all,

Do you have any plan to add Istanbul (Istif) class frigate of the Turkish navy for DB3K

Thanks in advance

https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/20 ... -istanbul/
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-EdtKm6WtkiM/ ... BIstif.jpg

[Parel803]

<type>Add</type>
<summary>DB3K 487, Tritao Class, R-21, Fleet Ocean Tug, Brazilian Navy</summary>
<detail>
3 units in class
First unit commisioned 1987
Brazil build
JFS2013/2014:
Displ t.: 832 standard, 1707 full
Dimensions mtr: 55.4 x 11.6 x 3.4
Speed kts: 13
Complement: 44
Machinery: 2 Vilares-Burmeister and Wain Alpha diesels, 2480 hp(m) (1.82 MW), 2 shafts, bow thruster
Guns: 2x Oerlikon 20 mm
Radar: RacalDecca TM 1226C I-Band, 2x Furuno I-Band
Bollard Pull - 23.5 tons
1 unit (Triunfo) has mine laying capacity
</detail>
<Evidence>
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File ... (R-21).jpg
https://www.flickr.com/photos/diariopor ... 0694373760
https://lmcshipsandthesea.blogspot.com/ ... iunfo.html
https://mapio.net/pic/p-1946492/
https://www.marinetraffic.com/pt/ais/de ... BAM_TRITAO
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?van ... 9141092503
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?van ... 5853603830
</evidence>
with regards GJ

Sorry for the misunnderstnading, my bad

[Parel803]

<type>Add</type>
<summary>DB3K 487, Almirante Guilhem Class, R-24, Fleet Ocean Tug, Brazilian Navy</summary>
<detail>
2 units in class. Alm Guilhem discomissioned in 2018, Alm Guillobel seems to be decommissioned from Navy in 2019. So total class deactivated.
First unit commisioned 1976, 1981 for the Navy
Japan build. Sumitomo, Uraga.
JFS2013/2014:
Displ t.: 2431 standard, 2779 full
Dimensions mtr: 63.2 x 13.4 x 4.5
Speed kts: 14
Range nm at kts: 10000 at 13
Complement: 40
Machinery: 2 GM EMD 20-645F7B diesels, 7120 hp (5.31 MW) sustained, 2 shatfs, cp props, bow trhuster
Guns: 2x Oerlikon 20 mm (optional)
Radar: Racal Decca I-Band, Furuno I-Band
Bollard Pull - 84 tons
</detail>
<Evidence>
https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classe_Almirante_Guilhem
https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/RbAM_Almi ... bel_(R-25)
https://www.naval.com.br/blog/2018/07/3 ... a-marinha/
https://yt5pm7hpvhl7lt7ywdcobmogwa--www ... 9/A039.htm
https://translate.google.com/translate? ... &sandbox=1 (Brazilian Navy images)
https://www.naval.com.br/blog/2015/03/0 ... em-santos/
https://navioscia.blogspot.com/2015/03/ ... -r-25.html
https://www.naval.com.br/blog/2019/04/2 ... lobel-r25/
https://translate.google.com/translate? ... bel-r25%2F
</evidence>
with regards GJ

[Parel803]

<type>Add</type>
<summary>DB3K 487, EDCG Guarapari Class, L-10, Genral Cargo Landing Craft, Brazilian Navy</summary>
<detail>
4? units in class
First unit commisioned 1978
Brazilian build, LCU 1610
JFS2013/2014:
Displ t.: 208 standard, 398 full
Dimensions mtr: 41 x 8.4 x 2
Speed kts: 11
Range nm at kts: 1200 at 8
Complement: 14
Military lift: 172 tons
Machinery: 2 GM 12V-71 diesels, 874 hp(650 kW) sustained, 2 shaft, cp props
Guns: 3x 12.7 mm MG
Radar: Furuno 3600 I-Band
No evidence found they are out of service
</detail>
<Evidence>
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?van ... 6845158727
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_s ... 11684).jpg
https://www.naval.com.br/ngb/C/C029/C029.htm
https://www.navysite.de/ships/lcm.htm
https://military.wikia.org/wiki/Landing ... 7_and_1646
</evidence>
with regards GJ

[BDukes]

<type>Update</type>
<summary>Add EL-8222 ASSP DECM to Israeli F-15C/D Strike Akef-2000 Loadouts</summary>
<detail>
Looks like EL-8222 ASSP are standard on IDF F-15C/D Akef-2000 Strike loadouts since akef upgrade. There's already a pod in the db #822 just need to update existing loadouts. Picture 1: F-15C 3 GBU-31, 2 Amraam, 1 EL-8222 forward the closest Amraam. Pretty clear in second photo.
</detail>
<evidence>
https://twitter.com/Kobaz4/status/11001 ... 28/photo/1
http://imagesvc.timeincapp.com/v3/found ... jjaj11.jpg
https://www.iai.co.il/drupal/sites/defa ... %20Pod.pdf
</evidence>

[BDukes]

<type>Update</type>
<summary>Italian F-35A and F-35B Loadout Updates. Beastmode, GBU-12 and later SDB and AARGM-ER</summary>
<detail>
Italian F-35's have updated loadouts. Link1:The F-35A carried four GBU-12s LGBs (Laser Guided Bombs) on the external pylons and two AIM-120 AMRAAM internally and 4 GBU-12 LGB's for the F-35B. SDB GBU-39 loadouts seem next and AARGM-ER much later when weapon bought.
</detail>
<evidence>
https://theaviationist.com/2021/01/29/i ... ded-bombs/
https://theaviationist.com/2020/11/27/c ... irst-time/
https://theaviationist.com/2020/11/03/i ... ning-2020/
</evidence>

[Parel803]

<type>Add</type>
<summary>DB3K 487, Essequibo Class, 1026, Coastal Patrol Craft, Guyana Coast Guard</summary>
<detail>
1 unit in class
First unit commisioned 1985
United Kingdom build, Ex-Orweel M-2011, transferred in 2011
JFS2013/2014:
Displ t.: 904 full
Dimensions mtr: 47.5 x 10.5 x 2.9
Speed kts: 14
Range nm at kts: 4500 at 10
Complement: 32
Machinery: 2 Ruston 6 RKC diesels, 3100 hp(m) (2.3 MW) sustained, 2 shafts
Guns: 1 x 20 mm, 2x 7.62 mm MG
Radar: 2x Racal Decca TM 1226C
</detail>
<Evidence>
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/River-class_minesweeper
http://www.navypedia.org/ships/guyana/g ... equibo.htm
https://www.kaieteurnewsonline.com/2010 ... he-public/
http://www.shipspotting.com/gallery/pho ... id=2243339
</evidence>
with regards GJ

[BDukes]

<type>Update</type>
<summary>Could MALDs be adjusted to be launched from lower altitudes</summary>
<detail>Noticed that MALDS can only be launched from 10000 ft or higher. Could this be changed to a lower altitude? Was playing a scenario and had to keep popping up to launch.
</detail>
<evidence>
fb.asp?m=4952836
</evidence>

[Parel803]

<type>Add</type>
<summary>DB3K 487, FPB 98 MKI Class, Nengrekopoe P-201, Patrol, Suriname Coast Guard</summary>
<detail>
1 unit in class
First unit commisioned 2013
France build, Ocea
</detail>
<Evidence>
https://www.meretmarine.com/fr/content/ ... le-surinam
https://www.inewsguyana.com/suriname-ge ... e-pirates/
https://www.ocea-ssm.com/june-2013-1st- ... fpb-98-mki
https://shipshub.com/navy/116-1.html
https://www.marinelec.com/en/references ... /ref-1869/
https://chuckhillscgblog.net/2019/07/07 ... aval-news/
https://far-maroc.forumpro.fr/t3685-sur ... -leger-snl (forum with images)
https://www.waterkant.net/suriname/2020 ... nden-weer/
</evidence>

<type>Add</type>
<summary>DB3K 487, FPB 72 MKII Class, P-101, Patrol, Suriname Coast Guard</summary>
<detail>
2 units in class
First unit commisioned 2013
France build, Ocea
</detail>
<Evidence>
https://www.meretmarine.com/fr/content/ ... le-surinam
https://www.inewsguyana.com/suriname-ge ... e-pirates/
https://shipshub.com/navy/116-1.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ocea_FPB_72
https://military.wikia.org/wiki/Military_of_Suriname
https://www.ocea-ssm.com/august-2013-2n ... pb-72-mkii
https://far-maroc.forumpro.fr/t3685-sur ... -leger-snl (forum with images)
</evidence>

with regards GJ

[rdfzcmo]

When I was testing USINDOPACOM's defense against PLARF missiles and I found out that American SBIRS systems are not working. I checked the latest database, found that the SBIRS got a 2000nm range infrared camera. However, the satellite is in the geosynchronous orbit of 35876km, making the satellite blind and useless. Similar problems apply to Chinese GSO satellites too. Also, the J-20's RCS shown in the database is around -5.3dBsm, while in the game the internal standard intercept loadout J-20 had a similar or slightly inferior RCS vs an F-35A. I think the database is showing the RCS data for some external loadout but I'm not very sure.

[SeaQueen]

I give you the F-15E's (and other's) recce pod: The AN/ASQ-236.

https://www.af.mil/About-Us/Fact-Sheets ... radar-pod/
https://www.af.mil/News/Photos/igphoto/2000319530/
https://www.northropgrumman.com/what-we ... radar-pod/
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/2 ... radar-pods
http://www.cpiaero.com/an-asq-236.html
https://medium.com/war-is-boring/see-sc ... 8e213606bd

[BDukes]

<type>Add</type>
<summary>Add Greek Aeolus[Mk V] Patrol Boats x4 2021</summary>
<detail>Greek Navy purchased Mk V patrol boats for Greek SF.Copy ship #321. Same minus advanced sensors. Likely small nav radar and night vision googles to start.
</detail>
<evidence>
https://twitter.com/EEmerson14/status/1 ... 4272735232
https://defbrief.com/2020/04/13/greece- ... m-us-navy/
</evidence>

[BDukes]

<type>Update</type>
<summary>Update Saudi F-15S with CBU-105 Loadout</summary>
<detail>Saudi's used CBU-105 in Yemen in 2015. It looks like a CBU/87 loadout was added but was likely meant to be CBU-105. First text picture of the F-15SA carrying 10. Sipri says the weapons were procured in 2014-2015.The two videos are definitely CBU-105, as you can see the parachute deployed munitions and casings. CBU-103's don't have parachutes but dump like normal cluster bombs. Update #4884, #2780 load-outs.
</detail>
<evidence>
https://twitter.com/MbKS15/status/924497875379376128
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThUB1R6Tpkw
https://www.rt.com/news/255233-saudi-ye ... ter-bombs/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CBU-97_Se ... zed_Weapon
https://armstrade.sipri.org/armstrade/p ... gister.php
</evidence>