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[Lowpe]

Turn is finished and away...

Canberra didn't put out the fires --disbanded in port with some naval supply, she will dock, has the crews of 6 PT boats to help fight the fires. It is bleak.

She has the best Captain I can give her without juggling other active ship commands...

I have several good ambushes planned, and I think hidden from Japan. Just waiting to pull the trigger.

[RangerJoe]

How to prevent ambushes:

1) Never go the same way twice, in other words, don't set up a pattern.
2) Never return by the same route.

Also, you are never lost, you are just taking the scenic route.

[BBfanboy]

ORIGINAL: Lowpe

Turn is finished and away...

Canberra didn't put out the fires --disbanded in port with some naval supply, she will dock, has the crews of 6 PT boats to help fight the fires. It is bleak.

She has the best Captain I can give her without juggling other active ship commands...

I have several good ambushes planned, and I think hidden from Japan. Just waiting to pull the trigger.

Canberra had very high flood levels when she reached port and fires were only 6. I am fairly sure the AI would prioritize getting the minor flood damage pumped first before trying to handle the fires. That might mean a turn or two with fires increasing, but if minor flood damage has been nearly mitigated, there is a good chance that her experienced crew will be able to handle the fires after that.

[Lowpe]

ORIGINAL: BBfanboy

ORIGINAL: Lowpe

Turn is finished and away...

Canberra didn't put out the fires --disbanded in port with some naval supply, she will dock, has the crews of 6 PT boats to help fight the fires. It is bleak.

She has the best Captain I can give her without juggling other active ship commands...

I have several good ambushes planned, and I think hidden from Japan. Just waiting to pull the trigger.

Canberra had very high flood levels when she reached port and fires were only 6. I am fairly sure the AI would prioritize getting the minor flood damage pumped first before trying to handle the fires. That might mean a turn or two with fires increasing, but if minor flood damage has been nearly mitigated, there is a good chance that her experienced crew will be able to handle the fires after that.

As I understand it, top priority is fighting fires, nothing is done till they are brought to 0.

[BBfanboy]

ORIGINAL: Lowpe

ORIGINAL: BBfanboy

ORIGINAL: Lowpe

Turn is finished and away...

Canberra didn't put out the fires --disbanded in port with some naval supply, she will dock, has the crews of 6 PT boats to help fight the fires. It is bleak.

She has the best Captain I can give her without juggling other active ship commands...

I have several good ambushes planned, and I think hidden from Japan. Just waiting to pull the trigger.

Canberra had very high flood levels when she reached port and fires were only 6. I am fairly sure the AI would prioritize getting the minor flood damage pumped first before trying to handle the fires. That might mean a turn or two with fires increasing, but if minor flood damage has been nearly mitigated, there is a good chance that her experienced crew will be able to handle the fires after that.

As I understand it, top priority is fighting fires, nothing is done till they are brought to 0.

At sea, yes - but when disbanded in port, don't the repair bands take over?

Per Alfred's Ship Repair 101: https://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.a ... age=1&key=

[Lowpe]

Feb 11, 1942


Being at dock did it...fires had climbed a few points along with the flooding...Captain Getting was issuing orders to ad hoc damage control parties from the PT Boats,...and somehow managed to get the fires out pump out a point or two of the counterflooding. Not saved, yet, but the first emergency has been met.

All the while the IJNAF sent wave after wave of Zeroes to clear the air for a potential bomber run on the Canberra...but American P40s rose to the challenge...and did the LRCAP at Bundaberg over the IJ runways have anything to do with the op losses?

[RangerJoe]

I like those OPs losses, did you try something new?[:D]

[Lowpe]

On Firefighting:

Dousing ship fires is indeed abstracted in the game. It is not covered by the ship repair routines but has its own set of routines. Relevant considerations for fire fighting are as follows.

1. A ship on fire in a task force with other undamaged ships will receive some help in dousing the fires from the other undamaged ships in the TF.

2. High system damage limits the fire fighting ability of the ship's crew.

3. In a port the normal fire fighting routine is based on:

(a) port size (less port damage). The bigger the port, the greater the fire fighting assistance
(b) naval support. Again the more present, the greater the assistance
(c) ship crew experience
(d) the level of ship system damage. A ship's systems abstracts the presence of fire fighting equipment such as fire hoses
(e) luck, aka die rolls

4. With the exception of point 6 below, all ship fire fighting occurs outside of shipyards or offline in pierside/tender repair modes. This means that shipyards/pierside/tenders provide no assistance to combat ship fires and a ship already on fire cannot be placed in those facilities.

5. A ship's flotation damage also plays a role. At a certain level (undisclosed), of flotation damage, fire fighting efforts degrade. This level varies depending on whether the ship on fire is

(a) at sea alone,
(b) in a small or big port

6. A ship which is already in a shipyard and whilst there a fire starts, as of patch #2, will remain in the shipyard for a single turn. If the fire is doused completely (together with the additional damage caused directly by the fire) in that single turn, the ship will resume its previous repair work on the following turn. All that is lost is a single turn's repair work as all attention was directed towards dousing the fire. However, if the fire is not completely doused (together with the additional direct damage) in that single turn, the ship is automatically moved out of the shipyard and cannot be returned to the shipyard until the fire is extinguished.

It is a very rare occurrence for a fire to start in a ship in drydock. This will usually only occur if one of the rare catastrophic events occur, or the enemy bombs the port and inflicts port damage.


Don Bowen was the main dev who commented on fire fighting, mainly in 2009 but also in 2011. I'll edit this post to provide the single most comprehensive thread on the subject.

Alfred

Edit: As promised this is the single best thread but there are several others which include posts from Don Bowen.

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[Lowpe]

ORIGINAL: RangerJoe

I like those OPs losses, did you try something new?[:D]

I looked in tracker to see if any kills were assigned to the pilots, but nope...not the squadron or the pilots.

[RangerJoe]

ORIGINAL: Lowpe

ORIGINAL: RangerJoe

I like those OPs losses, did you try something new?[:D]

I looked in tracker to see if any kills were assigned to the pilots, but nope...not the squadron or the pilots.

The most important thing is that they are losses. That will require supplies to replace, maybe new pilots as well, slowing down his air offensive - hopefully!

You opponent may see them as an aircraft shot down on the way home, or not see that but just as the OPs loss.

[Lowpe]

The AP Wharton takes a torpedo off San Diego, returns to port...minor fires, 3, will dock and then disband next turn.

We return the favor torpedoing a small tanker of Sakhalin, sinking her.

Brisbane theater...looking strong, over 300 AV at Toowoomba plus 10 Matildas and 10 Stuarts...Maryborough strong and the road south from Maryborough seems secure. Yesterday bombarded the IJA troops at Maryborough with a cruiser and some destroyers.

34th Regiment at Sydney, recovering from their valiant stand, has recovered 50% of their disablements.

[Lowpe]

As expected the IJA tank spearhead shows up... which route will they take?

Guessing the main road/railroad line...

[Ambassador]

An AP damaged in exchange of sinking a TK, this is not a bad rate of exchange.

[Capt. Harlock]

ORIGINAL: Ambassador

An AP damaged in exchange of sinking a TK, this is not a bad rate of exchange.

well, yes -- but a small TK.

[Lowpe]

ORIGINAL: Capt. Harlock

ORIGINAL: Ambassador

An AP damaged in exchange of sinking a TK, this is not a bad rate of exchange.

well, yes -- but a small TK.

Yep, Capt, you could make the argument that more damage would be done by excess fuel consumption by letting the tanker live and continue its run for the duration of the war...might have been a decoy/warning system.

another 12 inches or so of snow, followed by sleet and freezing rain...

[T Rav]

Can't stand freezing rain. 7 years in Omaha, and they would just send us home before it started and tell us not to come back to work until it melted. Hope it ends for you soon.

T Rav

[Ambassador]

ORIGINAL: Lowpe

ORIGINAL: Capt. Harlock

ORIGINAL: Ambassador

An AP damaged in exchange of sinking a TK, this is not a bad rate of exchange.

well, yes -- but a small TK.

Yep, Capt, you could make the argument that more damage would be done by excess fuel consumption by letting the tanker live and continue its run for the duration of the war...might have been a decoy/warning system.

another 12 inches or so of snow, followed by sleet and freezing rain...

Well, a Type-1 sure is not a Tonan Whaler, but still they can be useful for smaller ports (like Miri or Balikpapan, or Shikuka).

Also, isn’t DaIronBabes a mod with reduced load capacity ? I have never played this one, but reduced capacity may change the experience, and usefulness of various classes.[&:]

[GetAssista]

ORIGINAL: Capt. Harlock
well, yes -- but a small TK.

Don't underestimate the small TK, it is indispensable conversation starter! [:D]

[RangerJoe]

At least you get the snow first, then the sleet and freezing rain on top of that. Wolves actually like that combination, it makes hunting deer easier.

Sinking any tanker is useful, more useful if they are loaded . . .

[Lowpe]

Finished the turn, and didn't do a single offensive action...a sure sign of snow fatigue.[;)]