Beta 10U101: Carrier planes attacking port

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Beta 10U101: Carrier planes attacking port

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Despite putting a fighter group on top of my port, the carrier planes are not taking lot of casualties. These are Swordfish planes against Me109...

But my subs are taking damages...

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Second strike...

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Third strike...

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RE: Beta 10U101: Carrier planes attacking port

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So this is it? BoA is lost on turn 2? [:D]

This modification does not work for subs attacked by carrier planes?
January 15th 2021 - Beta 10U4

Port sizes 5+ may no longer be attacked by surface ships
Port size 1-4 defense is now 5.

Don't you consider that a port sizes 5+ is having some U-bunkers at a given point? Can you give a better protection to subs?
And, at last, why I don't see the AAA guns active in the above combat reports? Are they sleeping?
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RE: Beta 10U101: Carrier planes attacking port

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And comparing numbers, let's take the Ark Royal CV in 1939:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Ark_Royal_(91)

Numbers of carrier based planes (1939-1940):
26 x Swordfish
24 x Blackburn Skuas

Comparing to the I. Jadgkorps, let's assess 3 Gruppe of 40 planes plus Stab so around 150 planes.

Thus, I do not understand why Carrier based planes group has 10 steps while the I. Jadgkorps group has only 20 steps.
Reducing the carrier based planes group to 5-6 steps is more accurate imo.
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RE: Beta 10U101: Carrier planes attacking port

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CVs are 2x CV.
Air units are ~300 A/C

CVs are hard to balance in a game so there are a lot of factors that represent them including numbers, assortment, mobility, readiness, sorties.
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Okay but there is still this 1/3 ratio. 2xCV = 100 planes for 10 steps. And air units are 300 planes for 20 steps.

My problem is that carrier based planes (namely Swordfish) that can do 1-1 kill ratio against fighter land based planes (namely Me109d or Me109e) in 1939. This is hard to believe.

I do not know what is the stats of carrier based planes nor their based experience for UK. But, is there a way to put some negative values here for Air Combat?

Something like:
1939 = -1
1940 = -1
1941 = 0
1942 = 1
1943 = 2
1944 = 2
1945 = 3

Thanks

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Given the existing stats, I do not understand the results.

Land based planes: Air Combat of 8

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Carrier based planes: Air Combat of 4

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When a carrier based plane is striking a port? Does it use Anti-Sub of 4 or does it use Naval Air of 8? 8 is a very big number if we compare with other 1939 bomber group.

Carrier based planes: Naval Air is 8
Tactical bomber group: Naval Air is 2 only
Ground Attack group: Naval Air is 3 only

And with Carrier Operations advancement , it means Naval Air can go up to 11 in 1944 for Carrier based planes whereas it will be only of 5 for the Tactical bomber in 1944. This is not even the starting value of the CV planes in 1939.

Either Tactical bombers are underrated, or carrier-based aircraft are overrated.
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I have repeated the test several times. I can't do any damage more than 1 step on the Carrier based planes group. Despite an Air Combat of 8 vs 4. Are you sure of your damage formula?

Was it sure is that I am losing subs like hell...

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RE: Beta 10U101: Carrier planes attacking port

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This one is even better... I am losing planes, subs and no damage on the other side.

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RE: Beta 10U101: Carrier planes attacking port

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I'm looking into it.
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