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Hello everyone,

Neutrality... we tried it. Didn’t work out so well.[8|]
Well. It also depends on your neighbours. And your ability to fight back. Alone, or with help.
Our ability to fight back ? We’re screwed...

Help ? We had the French rushing to our defense ... yeah, we’re even more screwed...[8|][:D]
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No,no. The Swedes also haven't fought a war in many years as well.[;)]

Many Swedes went to fight in the Winter War . . .

Possibly, don't know. Maybe they figured they were next.[:D]
Well. I am sure that many have thought we would have been next. But the risk for that, in my humble opinion, was very low. Germany, and USSR, was at this point allies. Germany had allowed USSR to 'handle' Finland. It is doubtful that Germany would let USSR go to war, and occupy, Sweden. Germany, after all, expected to eventually fight USSR, and Germany wanted to continue to buy the Swedish iron ore.
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Hello everyone,

Neutrality... we tried it. Didn’t work out so well.[8|]
Well. It also depends on your neighbours. And your ability to fight back. Alone, or with help.
Our ability to fight back ? We’re screwed...

Help ? We had the French rushing to our defense ... yeah, we’re even more screwed...[8|][:D]
Yea. My thinking as well. [:(] [:D]
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Hello everyone,

Neutrality... we tried it. Didn’t work out so well.[8|]
Well. It also depends on your neighbours. And your ability to fight back. Alone, or with help.
Our ability to fight back ? We’re screwed...

Help ? We had the French rushing to our defense ... yeah, we’re even more screwed...[8|][:D]
I think we were rather good during the first years of WWII to fake that we had a good defence. And later on, when this got more dicey, we actually had a decent defence. And Germany didn't really have a lot of extra units over to invade Sweden at that point.

For example, my grandfather got called into the Army during the German invasion of Norway. He was sent to the Norwegian border. Once there he was sent to guard the border. He complained that he hadn't been given any weapon so they gave him a stick that was supposed to look as a rifle from the distance... He could, from time to time, see the German guards in the distance...

Note that one reason for the rifle shortage was because the Swedish rifles in the reserve storage had been 'sold' to Finland and had yet to be fully replaced.
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Anyway. That is all I have now. Wouldn't want to be accused of spamming for a new page. [:D]
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I would never do that. Trust me. [8D]
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I would never do that. Trust me. [8D]
Off course, you wouldn’t. Who would ?
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Well. It also depends on your neighbours. And your ability to fight back. Alone, or with help.
Our ability to fight back ? We’re screwed...

Help ? We had the French rushing to our defense ... yeah, we’re even more screwed...[8|][:D]
I think we were rather good during the first years of WWII to fake that we had a good defence. And later on, when this got more dicey, we actually had a decent defence. And Germany didn't really have a lot of extra units over to invade Sweden at that point.

For example, my grandfather got called into the Army during the German invasion of Norway. He was sent to the Norwegian border. Once there he was sent to guard the border. He complained that he hadn't been given any weapon so they gave him a stick that was supposed to look as a rifle from the distance... He could, from time to time, see the German guards in the distance...

Note that one reason for the rifle shortage was because the Swedish rifles in the reserve storage had been 'sold' to Finland and had yet to be fully replaced.
Interesting story.

I haven’t read on the subject for a long time, but as far as I remember, only the Allied powers had plans to occupy the iron-mining region of Sweden, as the Germans were all too happy to buy the ore.
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Well, being so far...
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All hail THE THREAD!!! And all hail Ambassador for a shiny new page. [&o] [:)]
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Well, being so far...

And yet so close!

All HAIL THE THREAD! [&o]

Good morning!

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Our ability to fight back ? We’re screwed...

Help ? We had the French rushing to our defense ... yeah, we’re even more screwed...[8|][:D]
I think we were rather good during the first years of WWII to fake that we had a good defence. And later on, when this got more dicey, we actually had a decent defence. And Germany didn't really have a lot of extra units over to invade Sweden at that point.

For example, my grandfather got called into the Army during the German invasion of Norway. He was sent to the Norwegian border. Once there he was sent to guard the border. He complained that he hadn't been given any weapon so they gave him a stick that was supposed to look as a rifle from the distance... He could, from time to time, see the German guards in the distance...

Note that one reason for the rifle shortage was because the Swedish rifles in the reserve storage had been 'sold' to Finland and had yet to be fully replaced.
Interesting story.

I haven’t read on the subject for a long time, but as far as I remember, only the Allied powers had plans to occupy the iron-mining region of Sweden, as the Germans were all too happy to buy the ore.

The United States sold half a million rifles to the UK after Dunkirk. Then, when the US mobilized and drafted a military, the men trained with broomsticks because there were not enough rifles to go around. Not only that, the rifles sold to the UK were a different caliber than their usual rifles so they equipped the Home Guard. Artillery went as well. You can see the result of that in the Pacific . . .

Anni-Frid Prinzessin Reuss von Plauen is the result of the German occupation of Norway, Narvik specifically.

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Neutrality... we tried it. Didn’t work out so well.[8|]

Yeah, but you guys never seemed to realize that you are stuck 'between a rock and a hard place'. Neutrality is never going to be an option.

Weren't you created to be a buffer zone between that 'rock and a hard place'. That unfortunately means you have to choose a side. No?
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The United States sold half a million rifles to the UK after Dunkirk. Then, when the US mobilized and drafted a military, the men trained with broomsticks because there were not enough rifles to go around.

Those rifles were the Springfield. At that time we were already transitioning to the Garand.
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The United States sold half a million rifles to the UK after Dunkirk. Then, when the US mobilized and drafted a military, the men trained with broomsticks because there were not enough rifles to go around.

Those rifles were the Springfield. At that time we were already transitioning to the Garand.
The British used WWI era Lee-Enfield rifles right through WWII and post-war fighting in Burma and Malaya. (maybe even Korea too!) They did get some Brens and Stens in their units, but most riflemen had this sturdy but heavy rifle to lug around. Fortunately it was reliable and accurate.
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The United States sold half a million rifles to the UK after Dunkirk. Then, when the US mobilized and drafted a military, the men trained with broomsticks because there were not enough rifles to go around.

Those rifles were the Springfield. At that time we were already transitioning to the Garand.
The British used WWI era Lee-Enfield rifles right through WWII and post-war fighting in Burma and Malaya. (maybe even Korea too!) They did get some Brens and Stens in their units, but most riflemen had this sturdy but heavy rifle to lug around. Fortunately it was reliable and accurate.

The Springfield would still have been useful for training purposes. The US Marines used Springfields on Guadalcanal. Think of how many units may not have able to deploy because of the lack of equipment.
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Good morning. Gentlemen. And Ladies.
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