The Montenegro Gambit Test 2

[OldCrowBalthazor]

Bavre (Central Powers) and I (Entente) have started a second test. Turn 1 for both sides are pending.
Rumor has it that this will be brutal....

[shri]

I am rooting for my opponent Bavre (In Ludendorff), what a turn of events. [:D]

[OldCrowBalthazor]

ORIGINAL: shri

I am rooting for my opponent Bavre (In Ludendorff), what a turn of events. [:D]

He will need it.

He was so excited to maul me, that he forgot to screenshot his first turn [:D] So I screen shot what I was facing, and then the aftermath. Here it comes o7

[OldCrowBalthazor]

Bavre's opener in Serbia...I don't see as many Germans in Dalmatia as I expected. Hmmm.....

[OldCrowBalthazor]

Bavre's opener in Galicia..going for Lutsk.

[OldCrowBalthazor]

Bavre's opener...operational movement of Germans into Galicia. AH makes an attack on a hapless cavalry corp.

[OldCrowBalthazor]

Bavre's opener on Grodno...and his push on Brestlitovsk.

[OldCrowBalthazor]

Entente response Turn 1: Serbia counterattacks a AH corp rounding Belgrade..mauling it. Belgrade is abandoned and a new line is formed. The elite Serb corp in Uskub force marches to Pec. The Montenegrins dig in.

[OldCrowBalthazor]

Entente response Turn 1: Russian forces placed under Brusilov immediately counterattack outside Lutsk. Two AH units are severly mauled. Some units in Poland are left behind but for security reasons I won't reveal their dispositions..yet. An entire army group is mobilized at the end of my turn...and could not screen shoot it..still, a good enough placement as a rear guard.

[OldCrowBalthazor]

Entente response Turn 1: Russia has to sell some research..and uses the money for train tickets..a lot of them Tilsit is taken to threaten the enemies rear. Yudenich is being roused in his villa at Sochi....and has orders to replace an incompetent general, which there are plenty of.

[OldCrowBalthazor]

Entente response Turn 1: The Germans destroyed a French corp too close to the border..the French Army awaits orders. The UK is currently neutral...but has active patrols looking for the German Navy. Intel has the opinion the Kaiser is going to attempt a sortee. Our friends in St Petersburg are looking into the matter. [:D]

That's the end of Turn 1 of the Montenegro Gambit 2 test.

[Chernobyl]

If the Centrals really can force a cut of both rail lines into Poland then the Russian units in Poland are serious trouble. Their supply goes way down and they are weak. Really interested to see.

As I said in other threads, the Austrians really should entrench that corps southeast of Belgrade, which your Serbians attacked. Not entirely sure whether Serbia should attack it or not if it's left unentrenched, but in any case why risk it if you can entrench by doing the swap trick. I'm also not sure whether abandoning Belgrade is the best move or not. The Serbians need more time to reinforce and entrench, which Austria should not let them have.

[shri]

This is some serious attack on Russia.

[OldCrowBalthazor]

ORIGINAL: Chernobyl

If the Centrals really can force a cut of both rail lines into Poland then the Russian units in Poland are serious trouble. Their supply goes way down and they are weak. Really interested to see.

As I said in other threads, the Austrians really should entrench that corps southeast of Belgrade, which your Serbians attacked. Not entirely sure whether Serbia should attack it or not if it's left unentrenched, but in any case why risk it if you can entrench by doing the swap trick. I'm also not sure whether abandoning Belgrade is the best move or not. The Serbians need more time to reinforce and entrench, which Austria should not let them have.

Yeah...I'm going to try to stop that at Lutsk...and I have other plans.

In Serbia...the first test I left that detachment in Belgrade and he by passed it for my corps. This time I attacked and almost destroyed one of his corps and used the detachment as a blocker. Still, if I knew Cetinje couldn't be taken until turn 3, when Albania comes in...I would do something entirely different down there.

You pointed out a long time ago about Albania staying neutral after the turn 2 surrender of Montenegro as bad for the Central Powers. Well, it's even worse for the Entente paradoxically!

Oh well, if Bavre makes any mistakes elsewhere, I maybe able to mitigate a little this thing. Honestly, this test needs to go out to mid 1915...because in the last test, by turn 4...Germany only had about 450 mmp in research, and the UK had 950+. France was also moving along, but she spend MMP's on transports and operational movement to ports to get to Albania...which didn't work out..so I sent them to Egypt.

The thing is, I am not sure about the long term implications of the M-Gambit on the Entente...but the early term is definitely bad...almost unrecoverable I think.

This match I have something different in mind..but it's going to take longer than 4 turns possibly.

[Dazo]

That was brutal indeed ^^ .

Thanks for the test both of you, nice to see other players trying to wreak the ga... er, improve the game I mean [:D].
I'm still reluctant to extend the front so much in the east early on and ignore Belgium on top of that.
That said, I think that german cavalry could also go for Vilna on turn 1 just for the NM hit.
The CP Vilna opening was quite a pain in the old game.

Also, reading you, I've though of a small move for Serbia I need to test !

[Bavre]

Edit: There have been some big changes in patch 1.05, so some of the stuff I'm exploiting here won't (thankfully) work any more!

Here we go again boys. Sorry for the turn 1 Screenshot blunder!

A short note on overall strategy:
Last time I was not aware that I was already under the effect from a boost in turn two. Now that I know that the end of mighty Luxembourg has bolstered my mens resolve I'm basically doing the same thing as in the last run, just a lot faster and more aggressive. This time however my moves are fully anticipated by the Entente, so lets so what counter OldCrow has in store!



Turn 1 CP received almost maximum bad rng both in Serbia and Belarus, so consider this run a best case scenario for the Entente.

But it was not just luck that made the situation in Serbia a lot less bleak than last time. Beeing wise to my attack pattern OldCrow has made the in my opinion best possible countermoves. 4 Serbia Corps and the Pec-Nish line are still in play as I had to waste a lot of attacks on his strategically placed rearguard detachments.

[Bavre]

In the north Russia has made a daring counterpush:



German forces are surprised and scrambling to react. Nevertheless the northern rail lines are cut and Brest-Litowsk is under siege.

[Bavre]

In the south Lutsk has fallen, which means the southern rail line is down for at least 6 turns. Russian troops have also evacuated the two westernmost towns, which may mean they get ready to abandon Poland. All in all this is a very exciting and aggressive war of movement with both sides going all in. Who needs trenches or research anyway?
However next turn is turn 3, so the boost from Montenegro will be applied on top of the fading one from Luxembourg. The Kaisers Angels of Death are about to descend on the battlefield.

[OldCrowBalthazor]

I'm ok with Luxembourg going down on turn 1....but not Montenegro on turn 2. Still, we have to work with what we got, no?

[OldCrowBalthazor]

Entente Turn 2:

Montenegro falls...the Serbs create a new line. France never opens the convoy on turn one knowing Cetinje will fall! This is a result of a now known exploit we are documenting o7