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Some newer capabilities will be tested in May:

https://breakingdefense.com/2021/02/exc ... -war-game/

Large analysis of the fallout from Gulf War 1:

https://tnsr.org/2021/02/the-gulf-wars- ... er-undone/
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First F-35A for the Royal Danish Air Force.
Denmark bought 27 aircraft. First they will train at Luke AFB in the US and from 2023 the first one will arive in Denmark.
https://twitter.com/clemente3000/status/1366085616232980485,


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First F-35A for the Royal Danish Air Force.
Denmark bought 27 aircraft. First they will train at Luke AFB in the US and from 2023 the first one will arive in Denmark.
https://twitter.com/clemente3000/status/1366085616232980485,


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For a program which is supposedly a failure (according to U.S. media) I counted 806 non-US Military planned orders and that doesn't count Turkey, which looks to be a dead deal.
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About F-35's perspective...
The U.S. Air Force Just Admitted The F-35 Stealth Fighter Has Failed

https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2 ... 8ad2e71b16
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ORIGINAL: Filitch
About F-35's perspective...
The U.S. Air Force Just Admitted The F-35 Stealth Fighter Has Failed
https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2 ... 8ad2e71b16
Brown’s comments are a tacit admission that the F-35 has failed.
The claim "F-35 is failed" is just that Forbes staff's opinion, not USAF's official statement.
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ORIGINAL: exsonic01
The claim "F-35 is failed" is just that Forbes staff's opinion, not USAF's official statement.
Probably...

But according Brown, USAF needs new tactical aircraft
https://www.defensedaily.com/u-s-air-fo ... air-force/
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Japanese shipbuilder Mitsubishi Heavy Industries (MHI) in Nagasaki launched today "Mogami", the first-in-class 30FFM, a next generation frigate for the Japan Maritime Self-Defense Force (JMSDF).

https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/20 ... the-jmsdf/

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ORIGINAL: Filitch

ORIGINAL: exsonic01
The claim "F-35 is failed" is just that Forbes staff's opinion, not USAF's official statement.
Probably...

But according Brown, USAF needs new tactical aircraft
https://www.defensedaily.com/u-s-air-fo ... air-force/
The United States may field a new fighter aircraft type by fiscal year (FY) 2029, according to a related contract notification posted on 4 March.

An artist’s impression of an NGAD concept. According to a DoD contract notification, the US military may field this or another ‘next generation’ combat aircraft by the end of FY 2029. (Boeing)

The contract awarded to Raytheon for AIM-120 Advanced Medium Range Air-to-Air Missile (AMRAAM) aircraft integration support lists several aircraft types that carry the system, before expanding its remit to potentially include those existing types that do not, as well as a type or types that have yet to enter into service.

“This contract will provide the necessary aircraft lab, flight test, flight clearance, and simulation support during all integration requirements in AMRAAM for F-15, F-16, F/A-18, F-22, F-35, and other current inventory or next-generation platforms that may join the air force or navy inventory before the end of fiscal year 2029,” the Department of Defense (DoD) said in its contract notification.

With the notification listing all US Air Force (USAF) and US Navy (USN) aircraft types (or their derivatives, such as the EA-18G Growler) cleared to carry the AMRAAM, it is not immediately apparent to which platform or platforms the DoD might be referring in its notification.

The only other tactical air (TacAir) platform in the US inventory that does not already carry the missile and which is not a derivative of the types listed is the Fairchild-Republic A-10 Thunderbolt II. However, while the A-10 does carry the short-range AIM-9 Sidewinder, this is purely for self-defence, and as such it would be highly unlikely that it would ever be equipped with the longer ranged AMRAAM for offensive aerial combat.
https://www.janes.com/defence-news/news-detail/us-may-field-new-fighter-by-fy-2029

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The United States may field a new fighter aircraft type by fiscal year (FY) 2029, according to a related contract notification posted on 4 March.

An artist’s impression of an NGAD concept. According to a DoD contract notification, the US military may field this or another ‘next generation’ combat aircraft by the end of FY 2029. (Boeing)

The contract awarded to Raytheon for AIM-120 Advanced Medium Range Air-to-Air Missile (AMRAAM) aircraft integration support lists several aircraft types that carry the system, before expanding its remit to potentially include those existing types that do not, as well as a type or types that have yet to enter into service.

“This contract will provide the necessary aircraft lab, flight test, flight clearance, and simulation support during all integration requirements in AMRAAM for F-15, F-16, F/A-18, F-22, F-35, and other current inventory or next-generation platforms that may join the air force or navy inventory before the end of fiscal year 2029,” the Department of Defense (DoD) said in its contract notification.

With the notification listing all US Air Force (USAF) and US Navy (USN) aircraft types (or their derivatives, such as the EA-18G Growler) cleared to carry the AMRAAM, it is not immediately apparent to which platform or platforms the DoD might be referring in its notification.

The only other tactical air (TacAir) platform in the US inventory that does not already carry the missile and which is not a derivative of the types listed is the Fairchild-Republic A-10 Thunderbolt II. However, while the A-10 does carry the short-range AIM-9 Sidewinder, this is purely for self-defence, and as such it would be highly unlikely that it would ever be equipped with the longer ranged AMRAAM for offensive aerial combat.
https://www.janes.com/defence-news/news ... by-fy-2029

I wonder sometimes if the F-15/16/18 (maybe F-22), J-16/17, & MiG-31/SU-27 type airframes aren't the apex of PRACTICALE fighter/multi-role aircraft design and if we all (U.S., Russia, PRC) are pouring money into Fifth Generation technologies that will never live up to their hype. Seems like the SU-57 and J-20 are also having very similar issues and maybe there is a limit to where an airframe can go and be a practical combat aircraft? I don't know but I do wonder sometimes if we're killing our counties in search of weapons that will never pan out.
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It might be the apex of manned fighter aircraft. I suspect the the next evolution is unmanned edge fighting with AI-assisted human-controlled unmanned aircraft. I also think a factor beyond the evolution of the aircraft is the rapid increase in ground-based defense capabilities.
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It might be the apex of manned fighter aircraft. I suspect the the next evolution is unmanned edge fighting with AI-assisted human-controlled unmanned aircraft. I also think a factor beyond the evolution of the aircraft is the rapid increase in ground-based defense capabilities.

Can't argue with anything you've said. Certainly a smaller drone can do things a maned aircraft can't. Certainly can pull more G's without a pilot to black out.
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Can't argue with anything you've said. Certainly a smaller drone can do things a maned aircraft can't. Certainly can pull more G's without a pilot to black out.
And does not count as commit a war crime by ramming a drone into a target, when it’s absolutely necessary.
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Not only new fighters but also the unmanned programs drive a new combat aircraft like the programs of Kratos:
Interview quotes:

"Kratos currently has two company owned Valkyries that are flying today, including in the recent ABMS attritable ONE program with these Kratos owned assets expanding our first to market leading position. " ~ Eric DeMarco Kratos.

"As I have mentioned previously, most of the work related to the Mako is now classified, and I'm unable to comment further, and similar to Kratos’s Valkyrie and the Gremlins, there is no competing drone in the Mako class flying today" ~ Eric DeMarco.

"Similar to Valkyrie, Gremlins and Mako, Kratos’s AirWolf Tactical System is once again the only system in its class flying today. Kratos’s Thanatos program which is also classified continues on schedule with a number of imp. milestones we need to achieve in 2021" Eric DeMarco
https://twitter.com/MIL_STD/status/1368020208166768647

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Not strictly news, but I think for sure of interest for scenario design (and to research many of the mentioned radars):
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NATO_Inte ... nse_System
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Explanation on how AI might help at the Strategic level.

https://breakingdefense.com/2021/03/exc ... ent-jadc2/

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I think Chains of War was too generous (and I mean way too generous) with how the US could perform in a future shooting war with China: https://www.yahoo.com/news/were-going-t ... 03936.html
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I think Chains of War was too generous (and I mean way too generous) with how the US could perform in a future shooting war with China: https://www.yahoo.com/news/were-going-t ... 03936.html

I believe since the US is the only country to ever use Nucs in anger in a war, the proper response to a major theater wide biological attack would be the US being the first country to first use "Tactical" Nucs in a soon to be (hopefully)short conflict, which I assume would not be the stated goals that the Chicoms were looking to attain with said attack...
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Interesting article about drone used from US submarines.

The Naval Sea Systems Command (NAVSEA) plans to buy up to 120 Blackwing 10C UAVs from the California-based company.

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/39700/the-u-s-navys-submarine-launched-aerial-drone-capacity-is-set-to-greatly-expand

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