Corsairs question

[LGKMAS]

I have searched threads about carrier aircraft.
I Think I understand that a Sdn may be carrier capable but not trained. That means they lose a few more a/c due to landing accidents, etc. That takes time for them to become Carrier trained.
So the progression goes carrier capable i.e. aircraft capable of operating from aircraft carriers because they are fitted with arrestor hooks etc then after a while you get the Sdn up to Carrier trained so the pilots operating these airframes know how to operate in a maritime environment
I have just received my first Corsair, and a F4F sdn converted to them on board ship. Suddenly that Sdn is now Carrier trained but not carrier capable.
I know the USN had difficulties operating Corsairs off carriers for some time. Is this a reflection that problem? If so, how long before Corsairs get carrier capable?

[Nomad]

The F4U-1 is never carrier capable. The later F4U-1a is carrier capable.

[btd64]

What Nomad said. You'll want to downgrade the airframe to the F4F again....GP

[LGKMAS]

Oaky
started to fix that.
I seem to recall reading it takes about 90 days to get carrier trained.
I need to ask, is it worth it?
Taking a carrier offline to train carrier capable Sdns to become Carrier trained? Seems a big ask when you are still short of carriers. and when in early 1943 about 4 CVEs are replacement carriers so best used in that role.
Don't all the new CV and CVL come with both carrier capable and carrier trained units? Has anyone suffered so many casualties they had to put a carrier trained Sdn ashore to build back up and then needed to replace them from an on-shore carrier qualified Sdn?
Unrelated but actually linked, USN gets VRF Sdns ie replacement aircraft/pilots. Are these Sdns capable of doing strikes or are they best regarded as floating Aircraft depots? And do they ever convert to normal Sdns?

[Ambassador]

In early ‘42, I usually ground the TB squadrons (Devastators are death traps and the pilots need training, like all others), and use the freed space on the CV to convert the early USMC squadrons to be Carrier Trained. As it’s a time where operations with your carriers should be light and cautious, it doesn’t matter that much.

Now, the impact of being Carrier Capable but not Carrier Trained is low. Ops losses may (will) be suffered, but not to the point that the whole squadron goes down in a week. If you keep that CC squadron for strikes, and don’t assign it any patrols (CAP, Naval Search, ASW), the difference in losses will be minimal.

[LGKMAS]

I've managed to get to early 43 without too much damage. I still have all the 6 fleet carriers, no Midway or Coral Sea in this TL. I was just wondering what the driver was in trying to get mainly USMC Sdns carrier trained. As I mentioned, I think most carriers after May 43 come with a fully capable and trained air group other wise what are Wolverine and Sable doing on the Great lakes? i confess I have not been able to check on those Sdns but as the ships come on-line I fail to see why the Sdns should not also be up to scratch.
or did you want a Ftr heavy air group in 42? As a defence against a strong KB attack? That could be why a number of people are talking about it? Trying to survive, you swap out your TBDs for extra Ftrs? Is that the driver?

[BBfanboy]

Pilots coming out of training school back in the USA may have good stats, but that is not good enough to stand up to high quality enemy pilots and their newer aircraft. I usually put them on operational training while the carrier is in transit and assign milk-run missions until their Experience level gets well above 50. Having very good leaders and some high Exp. veterans in the squadron helps with the training.

[Ambassador]

For CV squadrons, I’ll usually aim for 70 Skill/XP levels. Against the AI, it might not be needed as such, but it helps to slow down the rythm of operations to more realistic levels.

Any pilot under 60 Skill/XP is usually kept on the rear areas, to further train.

[RangerJoe]

While the Navy pilots might be carrier trained, the US Marine pilots would receive much less, if any, training in carrier operations.

Just put your replacement squadrons ashore and use the Bogues and the Long Island for carrier training US Marine units.