This has me puzzled

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This has me puzzled

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Ok a game I began days after AE was released has finally drawn to a close. A bit annoying it simply finished but there you are. I will speak of more in other postings in the days ahead no doubt.

However the attached screenshot is an amalgam of what was sent to me this morning by my honourable Japanese opponent as the victory screen and the previous intel screen from my side for the previous day.

Can anyone explain to me the discrepancy between the Major Victory that has been showing as the result for weeks on my intel screen and the Marginal Victory on the final screen? Looking at the difference in the points I gained another few hundred in the last 24 hour period.

In one sense it is not very significant for me, the Japanese still holding some islands that are self governing prison camps, Kyushu and Shikoku and Tokyo, Yokohama and Maebashi with starving troops in ruins does not feel at all marginal to me..... in the same way that still holding Berlin, and the odd holdout would have meant the war in Europe was a marginal victory?

On the other hand is there some issue here about the victory conditions I have not understood?

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Did you use more than 2 atomic bombs?
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I think a similar outcome was just discussed. You are 2:1 on Sept 1, 1945 ...

It was major until September 1, 1945, then it dropped a level on that day ...
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Aha, no I did not use any A bombs at all, I landed and took real estate. My A bomb unit was tucked away in northern Korea doing nothing.

Ah so maybe that's the answer, someone said I had to do this one day earlier...... I didn't get the memo.

Makes sense in gameplay terms.


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Correct, from gameplay for IJ it is all about survival ... if they can exceed history then they get a bonus. They still lose, just not as badly. [:D]
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Read my posts in this thread.

https://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=4891701&mpage=1&key=auto&#4891708

Unless the Allied player gets an auto victory before 1 September 1945, they will never achieve a Decisive Victory.

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PS. Was this the game involving Flashman? If so, I shudder at the thought how Valentina will react to the outcome.
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I 'knew' you would have the answer Alfred. Thank you.

The Emperor's empire at the rising of the sun on the 1st September.......


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ORIGINAL: Alfred

Read my posts in this thread.

https://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=4891701&mpage=1&key=auto�

Unless the Allied player gets an auto victory before 1 September 1945, they will never achieve a Decisive Victory.

Alfred


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PS. Was this the game involving Flashman? If so, I shudder at the thought how Valentina will react to the outcome.

Well you obviously missed the post about Valentina's vaporisation at Port Arthur...... unlike you......

The AAR will have a concluding post or two...

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Ah, but wasn't she only a Colonel?  That would mean there would be someone to whom she reported to and that person in turn won't want to inform Uncle Joe they have ultimately been short changed.
 
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You will just have to endure some suspense Alfred..... but you assume a lot in your last posting.... mirrors within mirrors....

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You will just have to endure some suspense Alfred..... but you assume a lot in your last posting.... mirrors within mirrors....

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Aha! The old 'staged death' trope! Nice!
But how will Flashman handle having a clingy, dangerous paramour following his every move...? "The World wonders"![:D]
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You will just have to endure some suspense Alfred..... but you assume a lot in your last posting.... mirrors within mirrors....

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Aha! The old 'staged death' trope! Nice!
But how will Flashman handle having a clingy, dangerous paramour following his every move...? "The World wonders"![:D]

Except that he dies in an "accident!" [;)]
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All suggestions welcome, but we shall see.... importantly we are playing until the bitter end... it could be he is drafted into a heroic assault on Tokyo......


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For those interested, this is how close the game came to the Decisive when I wasn't actually recalling I had to get there by the end of August......

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You should replace Flashman with Agent 86 so that he can say:

"missed it by that much"

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ORIGINAL: Alfred

You should replace Flashman with Agent 86 so that he can say:

"missed it by that much"

Alfred

I bet Agent 86 says that to all the girls... [:D]


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ORIGINAL: Alfred

You should replace Flashman with Agent 86 so that he can say:

"missed it by that much"

Alfred

I bet Agent 86 says that to all the girls... [:D]

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Needs the Cone of Silence as "it" is a state secret sought by Siefried.

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Needs the Cone of Silence as "it" is a state secret sought by Siefried.

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ORIGINAL: durnedwolf

ORIGINAL: Alfred

You should replace Flashman with Agent 86 so that he can say:

"missed it by that much"

Alfred

I bet Agent 86 says that to all the girls... [:D]

[:D][:D]
But didn't he get Agent 99 in the end?

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