VERNICHTUNGSKRIEG!!!! HLYA(G) vs 821Bobo (S) All are welcome

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Turn 2

Western Europe is begging for more War Material Gah, things aren't going well.

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Beginning of Turn

North Pockets held!

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All Center pockets held!

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This pocket held too.

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And finally the Southern pocket held AND the Soviet Southern Front was not released. Hitler does a happy dance.

***Note that I did have some units on refit which would normally have shown up on all the above pictures in blue surrouding the unit. But I always reset that at the beginning of each of my turns***

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Turn 2

Soviet Naval blockades Riga and Night Bombs Riga's Railyard. I expected both but let things run their course here.

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Turn 2

Informational for German players, if you didn't already know, of what will come from the Soviets bombing your railyards.

Soviet NIGHT bombing of railyards

Soviets bombing at night with multiple different bomber groups are going to do a lot of damage. They will probably knock out the railyard most of the time. Not much you can do about it at night time besides put mass AA in certain key city hexes. Interception at night you won't get enough aircraft in the air to make much of a difference from my play testing. So the Soviets bomb, do massive damage to the railyard and you are stuck to clean up the wreckage. To me the damage seems over the top for night bombing railyards. Especially since there isn't much to counter the Soviets bombing. But I don't know the history of the Soviets doing this well and maybe it is the case. Maybe the experts can chime in but here is the first bombing and the 4th bombing of Riga.

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Turn 2

Soviet Night Bombing Riga's Railyard

By the 4th bombing Riga's railyard is TOAST.

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Brest did a bit better

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Turn 2

Lvov was hit too.

Fun fun fun.

All the railyard bombings were at night.

[chaos45]

They lost a fair few bombers doing it so that was a cost of night bombing the railyards.

[carlkay58]

The Axis could always use the Bf110E fighters on night only to do the night interceptions. That is what they turned out to do best.

[joelmar]

ORIGINAL: chaos45

They lost a fair few bombers doing it so that was a cost of night bombing the railyards.

Knowing how important level 2+ railyards and ports are in this game, for that amount of damage, I'd be willing to loose a lot more bombers! The exchange is worth it many times IMO.

And the Soviets didn't need to use any of their precious fighters.

ORIGINAL: carlkay58

The Axis could always use the Bf110E fighters on night only to do the night interceptions. That is what they turned out to do best.

Not sure it would do much good, interception during the enemy air phase is quite low even during the day and supposed to be even lower at night.

[Repsol]

Good to see that air directives other then recon and GS proves useful [:)]

As for balacing...Time will tell i guess if such attacks currently are TO powerfull and needs some additional tweaking.

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ORIGINAL: chaos45

They lost a fair few bombers doing it so that was a cost of night bombing the railyards.

Yup, they did & said losses were high.

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ORIGINAL: carlkay58

The Axis could always use the Bf110E fighters on night only to do the night interceptions. That is what they turned out to do best.

Yup, used to do this in WITE1. Now people should realize why I took the 110's and sent them to re-train as fighters on the first turn earlier in the AAR. I will set it up the same way I did in WITE1.

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ORIGINAL: Repsol

Good to see that air directives other then recon and GS proves useful [:)]

As for balacing...Time will tell i guess if such attacks currently are TO powerfull and needs some additional tweaking.

It is reminiscent of WITE1 & I was able to handle night bombing just fine. I was mearly pointing out for new people to be aware of railyard bombing. I started turn one by sending my Bf-110's bomber to retrain(takes 8 turns to retrain to fighters) for night fighting. I also now have all my AA to put in to key railyard stations(I play with unlocked HQ's to have all my support in OKH turn 2). These two items did the trick in WITE1 & I just tested the same setup here in WITE2 in a practice game against myself. It works just like it did in WITE1 no problem. Now lets see how it plays out in a real game.

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ORIGINAL: joelmar

ORIGINAL: chaos45

They lost a fair few bombers doing it so that was a cost of night bombing the railyards.

Knowing how important level 2+ railyards and ports are in this game, for that amount of damage, I'd be willing to loose a lot more bombers! The exchange is worth it many times IMO.

And the Soviets didn't need to use any of their precious fighters.

ORIGINAL: carlkay58

The Axis could always use the Bf110E fighters on night only to do the night interceptions. That is what they turned out to do best.

Not sure it would do much good, interception during the enemy air phase is quite low even during the day and supposed to be even lower at night.

Ya, night interception is pretty low, like in the single digits for a full German squadron. That is why I use the small German 4 & 12 plane fighter groups to intercept just like I did in WITE1. I have it set up for turn 2 now. See what we get if anything if Bobo returns again. He did take a great many losses for sure but he can afford it for awhile but not forever. The question is will it be worth it? That is the question & time will tell.

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Turn 2

Still working on turn 2 to send back but work has me busy the last two days. I should have the turn back to 821Bobo tomorrow at the latest.

I did find this Recon battle interesting since I didn't set a directive for that many planes. Seems to be the sum of the recon in the area for this fight. I guess I will look in the manual to try and find anything. Yes, I started reading the darn manual finally

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Turn 2

Air losses after German Air Execution.

Here were the air losses for my air execution phase and the Soviets bombing of rail yards.