Understanding air unit reserves:

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RE: Why are planes in air groups put into reserve?

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Damn I missed this whole aspect of the game. What is the difference between group and reserve? I thought reserve was in the group but not active? Why would you pick one over the other and not just make them all active?
Group reserve is already assigned to the group, usually resting on site with it but could be in transit between General Reserve and Group Reserve.
The General Reserve is rear area- the national pool of already trained pilots.

As a further clarification, pilots transferred to (Group) Reserve remain in the squadron, but are greyed out. Pilots transferred to General (Reserve) leave the squadron and go to the pool.

Transferring to General (Reserve) is what is used to save the pilots from squadrons that are withdrawing or disbanding.

Oh damn did not know you could do that. Is that considered a cheat? Now I see why people play with withdrawals off. Seems like a lot of micro following schedules to keep pilots...
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RE: Why are planes in air groups put into reserve?

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Damn I missed this whole aspect of the game. What is the difference between group and reserve? I thought reserve was in the group but not active? Why would you pick one over the other and not just make them all active?
Group reserve is already assigned to the group, usually resting on site with it but could be in transit between General Reserve and Group Reserve.
The General Reserve is rear area- the national pool of already trained pilots.

As a further clarification, pilots transferred to (Group) Reserve remain in the squadron, but are greyed out. Pilots transferred to General (Reserve) leave the squadron and go to the pool.

Transferring to General (Reserve) is what is used to save the pilots from squadrons that are withdrawing or disbanding.

Again what is the point of the group reserve if they are not active and don't do anything? Why not just active or put into the general pool?
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RE: Why are planes in air groups put into reserve?

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Oh damn did not know you could do that. Is that considered a cheat? Now I see why people play with withdrawals off. Seems like a lot of micro following schedules to keep pilots...

Having individual pilots in a Strategic/Operational level game in general is an ultimate example of micromanagement. I always thought this was an error on GG's part. A holdover from Bombing the Reich. what next? Indiv. platoon squad members that one can manage, train and deploy? Never liked the added micro detail in AE of pilot training and assignment/management. Kind of like setting search arcs. woot. There was a reason why generals and admirals had STAFFS to manage such things.

Being able to play a grand strategic war-game should not take equal or more time than the actual historical event. Life is too short. [:'(]

there has to be a balance. Just my humble opinion.


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RE: Why are planes in air groups put into reserve?

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Group reserve is already assigned to the group, usually resting on site with it but could be in transit between General Reserve and Group Reserve.
The General Reserve is rear area- the national pool of already trained pilots.

As a further clarification, pilots transferred to (Group) Reserve remain in the squadron, but are greyed out. Pilots transferred to General (Reserve) leave the squadron and go to the pool.

Transferring to General (Reserve) is what is used to save the pilots from squadrons that are withdrawing or disbanding.

Again what is the point of the group reserve if they are not active and don't do anything? Why not just active or put into the general pool?

The point is an opportunity for yet more micromanagement.

Squadrons can carry many more pilots than planes.

Perhaps for a squadron in an inactive area you might want to move the more experienced/skilled pilots to Group Reserve so the less experienced/skilled pilots will get more air training time.

Conversely, for a squadron in the front line engaged in heavy combat, you might want to move your less experienced/skilled pilots to Group Reserve to keep them alive and let the real vets handle the heavy work.
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RE: Why are planes in air groups put into reserve?

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As a further clarification, pilots transferred to (Group) Reserve remain in the squadron, but are greyed out. Pilots transferred to General (Reserve) leave the squadron and go to the pool.

Transferring to General (Reserve) is what is used to save the pilots from squadrons that are withdrawing or disbanding.

Again what is the point of the group reserve if they are not active and don't do anything? Why not just active or put into the general pool?

The point is an opportunity for yet more micromanagement.

Squadrons can carry many more pilots than planes.

Perhaps for a squadron in an inactive area you might want to move the more experienced/skilled pilots to Group Reserve so the less experienced/skilled pilots will get more air training time.

Conversely, for a squadron in the front line engaged in heavy combat, you might want to move your less experienced/skilled pilots to Group Reserve to keep them alive and let the real vets handle the heavy work.

Ah now this makes sense thanks!
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RE: Why are planes in air groups put into reserve?

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Oh damn did not know you could do that. Is that considered a cheat? Now I see why people play with withdrawals off. Seems like a lot of micro following schedules to keep pilots...

Having individual pilots in a Strategic/Operational level game in general is an ultimate example of micromanagement. I always thought this was an error on GG's part. A holdover from Bombing the Reich. what next? Indiv. platoon squad members that one can manage, train and deploy? Never liked the added micro detail in AE of pilot training and assignment/management. Kind of like setting search arcs. woot. There was a reason why generals and admirals had STAFFS to manage such things.

Being able to play a grand strategic war-game should not take equal or more time than the actual historical event. Life is too short. [:'(]

there has to be a balance. Just my humble opinion.



I agree with your humble opinion! [:D]
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