144 Yamada Det S2 Claudes near Saigon

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RE: 144 Yamada Det S2 Claudes near Saigon

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Save the game , find the file in save folder of witp , upload it to google drive or something and send me the link

Ah google drive ok: The group is in Tokyo. Moved it there to see if it would help.

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RE: 144 Yamada Det S2 Claudes near Saigon

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Which scenario and which sceanrio creation date?

Or is it a mod?

In stock Scen 1, that unit has no list of Zeros to upgrade to.



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Which scenario and which sceanrio creation date?

Or is it a mod?

In stock Scen 1, that unit has no list of Zeros to upgrade to.



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It is AndyMacs Updated Scenario 1.

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RE: 144 Yamada Det S2 Claudes near Saigon

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OK i have looked at save and looked at my own Andy Macs upgraded scenario 1 too. With PDU off game is not recognizing the upgrade path attached to squadron , in stock scenario 1 with pdu off squadron doesnt have any upgrade path so there seems to be a some sort of bug.
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OK i have looked at save and looked at my own Andy Macs upgraded scenario 1 too. With PDU off game is not recognizing the upgrade path attached to squadron , in stock scenario 1 with pdu off squadron doesnt have any upgrade path so there seems to be a some sort of bug.

Good I am not crazy or stupid thanks. Shall we let Andy know?
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RE: 144 Yamada Det S2 Claudes near Saigon

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Obviously an error in the Scenario DB. The Air Group does not have an upgrade path.

current aircraft: A5M4
next Upgrade: A5M4 (means: no upgrade path)
future Upgrades: A6M2, A6M8 (not relevant anymore)
(b) provided on the screen you have before you

Look up the Air Group in the editor and check upgrade path.
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RE: 144 Yamada Det S2 Claudes near Saigon

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This is from Andy Mac's updates scenario.

Looks like our friend Tanaka has some kind of data corruption.


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EDIT: Wait a second - looks like I don't have the latest version installed, mine is v1 but I see there is a v6 - must be recent since it has been downloaded only 12 times at the very moment. In v6, there are upgrades to A6M2 and A6M8.
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AndyMac JFB confirmed.
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RE: 144 Yamada Det S2 Claudes near Saigon

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Yes, but the upgrade path is not maintained correctly.

00- A5M4 means no upgrade path
01- A6M2 irrelevant
02- A6M8 irrelevant

It should look like this:
00- A6M2
01- A6M8
02- A6M8 (no more upgrades after A6M8)

DB error.
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RE: 144 Yamada Det S2 Claudes near Saigon

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Permanent disband in April 1942 - no need for an upgrade to A6M8.
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RE: 144 Yamada Det S2 Claudes near Saigon

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ORIGINAL: Alfred

ORIGINAL: Tanaka

I have tried everything to upgrade these guys to Zeros even moving them to Takao with a level 8 AF and 80,000 supplies but still will not upgrade to anything but Claudes. PDU is off.

What am I missing? All other Claudes seem to upgrade fine...

Another one of your never ending stupid questions. Questions to which the answer is already provided on the game screen.

Where does it say that this unit has an upgrade path to a different aircraft model. Answer no screen does. So on what basis do you believe you have a right to upgrade the unit to Zeros. The fact that the screen says no upgrade is available is a dead give away.

I can't think of a single question of yours to which the answer is not already:

(a) provided in the manual, or
(b) provided on the screen you have before you, or
(c) is answered by a forumite in a thread of yours but you refuse to accept that answer and restate the question in the same thread

Alfred

Thanks for your help! I may be stupid but at least I'm not a jerk! Just take this thread as an example, the way Google search boy answers is prove enough that he's just barely more than a troll.

I see upgrade to A6M2 Zero and A6M8 Zero. This is my first time playing with PDU off so I am obviously missing something.

I played Uncommon Valor and WITP more than 10 years ago and am finally trying my hands at this great updated version WITPAE. WITPAE is a whole completely new beast that I am trying to learn. I've been reading the manual and forums voraciously. Do me a favor and never respond to my posts again! Thanks!



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Dou yourself a favour and just ignore the narcistic jerker.

It's great to have a long timer back, feel free to ask whatever you want.
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RE: 144 Yamada Det S2 Claudes near Saigon

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Another one of your never ending stupid questions. Questions to which the answer is already provided on the game screen.

Where does it say that this unit has an upgrade path to a different aircraft model. Answer no screen does. So on what basis do you believe you have a right to upgrade the unit to Zeros. The fact that the screen says no upgrade is available is a dead give away.

I can't think of a single question of yours to which the answer is not already:

(a) provided in the manual, or
(b) provided on the screen you have before you, or
(c) is answered by a forumite in a thread of yours but you refuse to accept that answer and restate the question in the same thread

Alfred

Thanks for your help! I may be stupid but at least I'm not a jerk! Just take this thread as an example, the way Google search boy answers is prove enough that he's just barely more than a troll.

I see upgrade to A6M2 Zero and A6M8 Zero. This is my first time playing with PDU off so I am obviously missing something.

I played Uncommon Valor and WITP more than 10 years ago and am finally trying my hands at this great updated version WITPAE. WITPAE is a whole completely new beast that I am trying to learn. I've been reading the manual and forums voraciously. Do me a favor and never respond to my posts again! Thanks!



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Dou yourself a favour and just ignore the narcistic jerker.

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Permanent disband in April 1942 - no need for an upgrade to A6M8.

So working as intended and you cannot upgrade to A6M2? Why the change from stock? Just curious?
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RE: 144 Yamada Det S2 Claudes near Saigon

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OK 2 things

1. I have looked at the save it is PDU OFF therefore the sub group cannot upgrade - this is correct in PDU OFF this sqn is not designed to upgrade

Switch PDU = on in save and you can upgrade it.

2. Why is there an upgrade path showing in PDU = off - thats for the AI a human player disbands the sqn in April 42 the AI never disbands it (unless its overrun by allied player) the AI ignores withdrawals (its one the cheats I gave the AI to avoid having to manage AI withdrawals) Because it never withdraws and I dont think anyone wants Claudes in 44 as opposition I gave the sqn an upgrade path that ONLY the AI can access in a PDU = OFF game

So PDU off the player can only equip the sqn with claudes
PDU on player can do what the like

AI will upgrade to A6M2 and A6M8 when available but player cannot in a PDU = OFF game
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OK 2 things

1. I have looked at the save it is PDU OFF therefore the sub group cannot upgrade - this is correct in PDU OFF this sqn is not designed to upgrade

Switch PDU = on in save and you can upgrade it.

2. Why is there an upgrade path showing in PDU = off - thats for the AI a human player disbands the sqn in April 42 the AI never disbands it (unless its overrun by allied player) the AI ignores withdrawals (its one the cheats I gave the AI to avoid having to manage AI withdrawals) Because it never withdraws and I dont think anyone wants Claudes in 44 as opposition I gave the sqn an upgrade path that ONLY the AI can access in a PDU = OFF game

So PDU off the player can only equip the sqn with claudes
PDU on player can do what the like

AI will upgrade to A6M2 and A6M8 when available but player cannot in a PDU = OFF game

Ah thanks Andy so this is different in your scenario than stock?
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RE: 144 Yamada Det S2 Claudes near Saigon

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Not sure when this change was made in the last 10 years its certainly different from the at launch stock scenario but cannot remember whether its part of the most recent change or not

So few games are PDU off thats its never came up before
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RE: 144 Yamada Det S2 Claudes near Saigon

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Alfred he is a powertripping narcist that enjoys belittling newcomers.

And you sir, are an ass.

Alfred is a font of knowledge here, who shares insights when questions are raised, that are not explained in the manual, or on in-game screens. He is very helpful.

The problem is that players seem to want to be spoon fed, rather than doing the work. That leads to the same questions being repeated again, and again, and more gondolas. A lot of questions that are repetitively raised would be answered by a quick forum search and 10 or 15 minutes reading the returned result-threads.




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Hey, keep it friendly. There is a middle ground between your extremist positions. Alfred is undoubtly an AE dictionary and research genius (well, he is a human being - or so I believe - and as such neither omniscient nor unerring) and willing to help. But he has an attitude problem concerning people who do not reach up to his own high research standards and sometimes he goes over the top and comes across as patronizing or arrogant or rude. Occasionally he needs to be brought back to earth, but he doesn't deserve the name calling going on here.
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RE: 144 Yamada Det S2 Claudes near Saigon

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ORIGINAL: Ian R

The problem is that players seem to want to be spoon fed, rather than doing the work. That leads to the same questions being repeated again, and again, and more gondolas. A lot of questions that are repetitively raised would be answered by a quick forum search and 10 or 15 minutes reading the returned result-threads.
Read the thread again and decide who is the ass here.

Tanaka comes in with a legitimate question ; he has enough supply , at a high level airfield , has upgraded many squadrons of same aircraft before , squadron appears to have an upgrade path in a pdu off game yet he cant upgrade the squadron naturally comes to the forums to ask whats wrong with it.

Its obvious to me Tanaka has done his homework and is not expecting to be spoon fed. Anyways , have a good day.
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